Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition)

TSKD000 · Post #1001 » by **TSKD000** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:45 am

Nyce_1 wrote:Anyone thinking we should've hired Tom Penn instead?

They should have hired any of us at this point!

rcklsscognition · Post #1002 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:46 am

lol at Robs wiki page. But in good news, DUHON IS GONE YA'LL!!!

HstryInTheMakng · Post #1003 » by **HstryInTheMakng** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:46 am

I think we are all OVERREACTING, this is a future building trade. Obviously it's gonna look bad now. Time will tell all

magicman123 · Post #1004 » by **magicman123** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:46 am

Nemesis21 wrote:GTFO! Is this real? Of all days this goes down on my birthday?

happy birthday man, you just got rapped by hennigan and the rest of the league

dsg2021 · Post #1005 » by **dsg2021** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:46 am

I'm out guys. I'm supporting Our new Magic and Hennigan. I'm excited to see Afflalo and Harkless play for us, and we're loading up picks, cap space and prospects for future trades IMO and to make that rebuilt team that will brim with youth and confidence/hype someday, starting piece by piece now.

OrlandoMagic · Post #1006 » by **OrlandoMagic** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:46 am

Nemesis21 wrote:GTFO! Is this real? Of all days this goes down on my birthday?

Hope you have a good birthday

rcklsscognition · Post #1007 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:47 am

Phuck Philly, bitching about giving up Iggy and a mid-1st round pick for the 2nd best center in the league.

Nemesis21 · Post #1008 » by **Nemesis21** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:47 am

magicman123 wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:GTFO! Is this real? Of all days this goes down on my birthday?

happy birthday man, you just got rapped by hennigan and the rest of the league

thanks, my birthday will now be linked to the day the Magic traded Dwight Howard. Aug 9. :-?

Post #1009 » by **FFBlitzace** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:47 am

Basically every washed up NBA personality is combing the hair (if they have any) and putting on the moth eaten sport coat and begging ESPN to give them a few minutes on TV. And so far they seem to be obliging.

GameOver25 · Post #1010 » by **GameOver25** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:47 am

ChildishGambino wrote:People really going to blame Rob right? i mean it's not like he has to get permission from the Devos's and Alex before he can make a deal.....oh wait he does....then....then...that would mean that it's not all on Rob head? come on guys if we have to blame then blame the entire organization.....this decision doesn't fall on one man....either way this is a tough one to swallow....if the deal goes down with the pieces that's being reported then i would like to know what frame of mind the organization was in when they Ok'd the deal......

Otis was in the war room holding Henny hostage at gunpoint and told him to pull the trigger.

cvMagic · Post #1011 » by **cvMagic** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:47 am

dsg2021 wrote:
cvMagic wrote:Hmmm...
According to the delusional posters who approve of this trade...

Apparently the plan is to bypass all the top 20 talent in future drafts and stockpile as many late first round picks as possible so Henny can show off how good of a drafter he is.

Sound about right?

Is this for real? Did you forget assets for trading into lotto? Did you forget the Magics own picks?

Yes DSG, you're right. This is a great trade.
EVERY OTHER PERSON ON THE PLANET must be wrong.
Kudos.

PS
What flavor is your Kool-aid? Mine's grape.

Nemesis21 · Post #1012 » by **Nemesis21** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:48 am

OrlandoMagic wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:GTFO! Is this real? Of all days this goes down on my birthday?

Hope you have a good birthday

Thanks

mattyBoi · Post #1013 » by **mattyBoi** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:48 am

MagicFan41 wrote:
mattyBoi wrote:Magicfan41 seriously where do you see that we clear cap space? Show me and I will gladly admit you are right, but I'm pretty sure your talking out of your ass.

You do understand that it's about cap space year to year right? Not total salary? We owed Gilbert $60 mil last year to NOT play, that was salary....but that doesn't matter as it didn't affect cap room. So your question is how to we clear any cap room after making this trade vs not making this trade yeh? Right away (which is sorta irrelevant because there aren't any free agents to go after now anyways)....if we give up Dwight, JRich, Duhon, Clark (obv exact pieces haven't been named but that's prob close)....then we get rid of:

(this year, next year)
Dwight ($19.5, $21)
JRich ($5.8, $6.2)
Duhon ($3.25, $1.5)
Clark ($1.2 or something, $0)

That's $29.75 this year, $28.7 next year We bring in:

Afflalo ($7.75, $7.75)
Harrington ($6.7, $3.6)
Vucevic ($1.7, $0)
Harkless ($1.7, $1.7)

So this year we would pay $17.85 ($12 mil less) and next summer $13.05 ($15.7 mil less). How is this not clearing cap room? Where is your hangup?

We're talking cap space aside from Dwight here. Of course you get cap space from letting Dwight go, we would get the space by letting him walk, that's irrelevant.

The team's goal was to clear bad contracts and we straight up didn't do that. We added salary both long term and short. Aside from Howard of course.

Nolimit1211 · Post #1014 » by **Nolimit1211** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:48 am

Tank mode for high draft picks ala OKC...

Glad Henny knows going for capspace is useless... who you gonna sign, Dwight Howard? lol

dsg2021 · Post #1015 » by **dsg2021** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:49 am

cvMagic wrote:
dsg2021 wrote:
cvMagic wrote:Hmmm...
According to the delusional posters who approve of this trade...

Apparently the plan is to bypass all the top 20 talent in future drafts and stockpile as many late first round picks as possible so Henny can show off how good of a drafter he is.

Sound about right?

Is this for real? Did you forget assets for trading into lotto? Did you forget the Magics own picks?

Yes DSG, you're right. This is a great trade.
EVERY OTHER PERSON ON THE PLANET must be wrong.
Kudos.

PS
What flavor is your Kool-aid? Mine's grape.

Nah, mines purple drink.

cvMagic · Post #1016 » by **cvMagic** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:49 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
Sam Amick ‏@sam_amick
I'll be curious to see if any of the pieces change in the morning. Philly would rather not give up Harkless, but Magic love him.

Philly is complaining?

magicman123 · Post #1017 » by **magicman123** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:49 am

so who starts? redick or affalo?

OrlandoMagic · Post #1018 » by **OrlandoMagic** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:49 am

I hope we all wake up in the morning check the magic website and see a video that we've all been Rick rolled

Post #1019 » by **Def Swami** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:50 am

Corey Brewer ‏@CoreyBrewer13
gonna miss my guy @arronafflalo

Optimus_Steel · Post #1020 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:50 am

mattyBoi wrote:Every analyst has come one and tried to give a positive spin to Magic fans specifically and can't come up with anything LOL

Thats because no one has perspective. For example, we dont want Bynum because we are doing a full on rebuild which is the right thing to do. But in this twitter era everyone wants changes imediately and in the situation we are in we would be stuck being mediocre with large contracts, no capspace and no draft picks. When we traded Tmac and got back 3 veterans (Francis, Mobley, Cato) that did not turn out very well did it? We did not make the playoffs with those guys, we did not have capspace and our draft position sucked. So if we do the deals that ESPN says we should have done then that would be our destiny- being mediocre.