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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#1001 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:49 pm

magicaroni wrote:I honestly think we would be better served to draft Vonleh or Randle at #4 and then take a PG like Payton, Lavine or Napier at #12.

The Boston Globe article cemented a couple of the things I had seen in tape and was extremely worried about. The lack of competition, comparisons to an average athletic perimeter player like Thabo, and the fact he always defaults to his right hand on layups, even on the left side of the hoop.

There is too many red flags in this kid's game IMO, and it will be ahuge risk by Hennigan to gamble on this kid. Go big with Vonleh at 4 and sure up the front line, and then add a solid compliment to Victor at #12. No need to gamble on the future of the franchise.


Plus, the team has some of the $20 mil they can spend on a solid FA PG.
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Post#1002 » by Smooth_E » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:50 pm

magicaroni wrote:I honestly think we would be better served to draft Vonleh or Randle at #4 and then take a PG like Payton, Lavine or Napier at #12.

The Boston Globe article cemented a couple of the things I had seen in tape and was extremely worried about. The lack of competition, comparisons to an average athletic perimeter player like Thabo, and the fact he always defaults to his right hand on layups, even on the left side of the hoop.

There is too many red flags in this kid's game IMO, and it will be ahuge risk by Hennigan to gamble on this kid. Go big with Vonleh at 4 and sure up the front line, and then add a solid compliment to Victor at #12. No need to gamble on the future of the franchise.


Safe gets you to the playoffs. Risky gets you to the Finals.
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Post#1003 » by MagicStarwipe » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:50 pm

Am I crazy or is his release point fairly normal? Not sure what the panic about this supposed ultra low release is about.
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Post#1004 » by Melvinlocker » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:55 pm

Hogified05 wrote:I think Australia and Canada are the next two countries up to challenge the US in international basketball. Exum and Ben Simmons are going be a formidable 1 2 punch. Plus they got Patty mills (lead the last olympics in scoring) and Dellavedova, not to mention some size in Baynes for the spurs to put next too Simmmons. Exums size he could probably get away playing the 3 on that lineup.

Then Canada has of course Wiggins and some nice pieces to fit around him. Should be exciting because the USA will be in transition after the 2016 olympics and Australia and Canada should just be coming into their prime. It's good for us to get knocked off every once in awhile to give us motivation plus its better for basketball when other countries are good.

ha sorry those videos of Exum passing it to Simmons got me on a tangent.


They also have Bogut, Ogilvy and Joe Ingles. Their team will be stacked.
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Post#1005 » by yoyojw17 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:57 pm

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magicaroni wrote:I honestly think we would be better served to draft Vonleh or Randle at #4 and then take a PG like Payton, Lavine or Napier at #12.

The Boston Globe article cemented a couple of the things I had seen in tape and was extremely worried about. The lack of competition, comparisons to an average athletic perimeter player like Thabo, and the fact he always defaults to his right hand on layups, even on the left side of the hoop.

There is too many red flags in this kid's game IMO, and it will be ahuge risk by Hennigan to gamble on this kid. Go big with Vonleh at 4 and sure up the front line, and then add a solid compliment to Victor at #12. No need to gamble on the future of the franchise.


Safe gets you to the playoffs. Risky gets you to the Finals.


My feelings exactly! If the upside is there.... I'd rather swing for a possible franchise player... and not sit there in mediocrity. If they see it in Vonleh (he just strikes me as a cog...not saying that as a bad thing because i love players that will keep things moving... but just not at 4 if that's all he'll be) too... then so be it. It sucks playing craps at the top of the draft.... but if the FO sees potential... I'm in.

Can there be some leaks from his workout and interviews.... lol... the suspense is killing me! people got work to do other than pressing refresh all day.

On that note.... erryone have a great one!
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Post#1006 » by InFlames » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:58 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/06/17/dante-exum-factor-from-australia/SDbZWLe7UNggTNCfzGS2iK/story.html?s_campaign=sm_tw

Dante Exum is an X factor from Australia

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“He’s intriguing in that he’s kind of like the new-wave point guard, a guy that can play both guard positions,” said one Eastern Conference executive. “He’s got great size — enough to play both guard positions — speed and athleticism and ballhandling to play the point and then shooting, size, and strength to play the [shooting] guard position.

“He’s kind of the optimal point guard guy. I think that’s what’s intriguing about him.

“You’re talking about the kid who, [at] the under-19 World Championships, was the best kid in the tournament, hands down. It’s just a matter of how many people saw him there and how many people are comfortable with that to make a decision on him.

“At the Hoops Summit, he was good, but he wasn’t stellar. He was the youngest guy in the game. He’s another kid that was a year younger than everyone else. He’s a talent. I think teams might be sleeping on him as far as what he potentially could be.”

But one Eastern Conference scout said the issue of what position Exum plays is the “million-dollar question.”

“What is he going to be?” asked the scout. “Are you going to turn him into Russell Westbrook? Or is he going to be Thabo Sefolosha?”

Another Eastern Conference scout said Exum might have to play point guard even if it’s not the best position for him.

“As a point guard, I like him, but I don’t know if he’s a natural point guard,” the scout said. “I think that you kind of have to play him there — this is only based off me seeing him at Nike Hoops Summit last year — but the thing about him when he wasn’t playing point, because he was paired up with Dennis Schroder, was Exum had no clue how to cut or move without the ball. He just literally stood in the corner.

“I think he always has to have the ball in his hands to be effective.”

A Western Conference scout recalled watching Exum face Schroder, a German point guard who was drafted by the Atlanta Hawks last year.

“Let me tell you, Dennis Schroder kicked the [expletive] out of him in every one-on-one drill,” the scout said. “It was sad, because here was this young, gangly kid, and Schroder was tying him into knots.”

The Western Conference scout called Exum a “very good prospect” but stopped short of saying he was anything more.

“Again, is he not a tremendous prospect? I’m not going to say that,” the scout said. “Is he a potential All-Star? I don’t know. Is he someone who if I was drafting, and I haven’t seen him play other than a one-on-zero workout, would I consider drafting him top five? No [expletive] way.

“I saw him play every conceivable level of basketball. He’s not a point guard. Just because you can dribble in a straight line and dunk doesn’t make you a point guard.”

Exum hasn’t been playing on a competitive team since leading Lake Ginninderra Secondary College to the Australian National High School Basketball Championships title in January.

Before that, he competed in the FIBA Under-19 World Championships, where he averaged 18.2 points, 3.6 rebounds, and 3.8 assists.

“The thing that brings me a little bit of concern is the level of competition that he’s played against,” said one Eastern Conference executive. “He played against our young guys, USA guys last year, and he looked good. But playing in Australia . . . I just mean, the everyday competition against guys that are as quick, as fast, as good? He hasn’t done that.”

An Eastern Conference scout said that Exum comes from the “same cloth as all the Australian players that have played in the NBA — he has a grit, toughness, nasty. Has a ton of pride. Wears the Australian flag strong.”

But another Eastern Conference executive who watched Exum compete overseas said Exum reminded him of an Argentine player, San Antonio Spurs guard Manu Ginobili.

“Just like Manu is extremely left-hand dominant, Dante is extremely right-hand dominant,” the executive said. “He really has no left hand right now. That will have to come as he gets older and stronger and just better as a player. That was kind of a name that came to mind.

“I think it’s kind of an interesting type of player. I don’t think Manu gets enough credit for as good of a 2-guard as he actually is. If you can find another one of him, I think that’s a pretty good get.

“I think Exum has that ability to where he could be a slasher but a good enough shooter to draw defenses out and then have the ability to drive and create out of that, because like Manu, he’s an incredible passer for being a big player.”

More than with any other lottery-caliber players, there are questions about Exum’s game, if only because of where he’s from.

“He’s long, athletic, he knows how to play,” an Eastern Conference scout said. “I think his biggest thing will be getting stronger and shooting. I think he’s athletic, but it’s interesting, because he covered [Andrew] Wiggins a couple times at that [Hoops Summit] event, and he did OK.

“And it’s like, ‘OK, this guy can cover Wiggins.’ But then there are plays, and it’s like, as athletic as Exum is, he’s not an elite athlete. Wiggins can do this to a lot of people, but there was a very large difference between the two when it came to the level of athleticism.

“I think he’s probably more athletic than [Michael] Carter-Williams, but I don’t know if he has Carter-Williams’s feel as a point guard. But he’s definitely a player. He’s one of those guys — just draft his talent and let the coach figure it out.”


Where the hell do they find these guys? Comparing Exum to Sefolosha makes absolutely no sense. Sefolosha is a shooter, defensive stopper who cant dribble.
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Post#1007 » by Smooth_E » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:08 pm

yoyojw17 wrote:
Smooth_E wrote:
magicaroni wrote:I honestly think we would be better served to draft Vonleh or Randle at #4 and then take a PG like Payton, Lavine or Napier at #12.

The Boston Globe article cemented a couple of the things I had seen in tape and was extremely worried about. The lack of competition, comparisons to an average athletic perimeter player like Thabo, and the fact he always defaults to his right hand on layups, even on the left side of the hoop.

There is too many red flags in this kid's game IMO, and it will be ahuge risk by Hennigan to gamble on this kid. Go big with Vonleh at 4 and sure up the front line, and then add a solid compliment to Victor at #12. No need to gamble on the future of the franchise.


Safe gets you to the playoffs. Risky gets you to the Finals.


My feelings exactly! If the upside is there.... I'd rather swing for a possible franchise player... and not sit there in mediocrity. If they see it in Vonleh (he just strikes me as a cog...not saying that as a bad thing because i love players that will keep things moving... but just not at 4 if that's all he'll be) too... then so be it. It sucks playing craps at the top of the draft.... but if the FO sees potential... I'm in.

Can there be some leaks from his workout and interviews.... lol... the suspense is killing me! people got work to do other than pressing refresh all day.

On that note.... erryone have a great one!


I am still hoping that someone takes Exum with that #2 or #3. I really want Jabari for us here in Orlando.
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Post#1008 » by yoyojw17 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:46 pm

Smooth_E wrote:
yoyojw17 wrote:
Smooth_E wrote:
Safe gets you to the playoffs. Risky gets you to the Finals.


My feelings exactly! If the upside is there.... I'd rather swing for a possible franchise player... and not sit there in mediocrity. If they see it in Vonleh (he just strikes me as a cog...not saying that as a bad thing because i love players that will keep things moving... but just not at 4 if that's all he'll be) too... then so be it. It sucks playing craps at the top of the draft.... but if the FO sees potential... I'm in.

Can there be some leaks from his workout and interviews.... lol... the suspense is killing me! people got work to do other than pressing refresh all day.

On that note.... erryone have a great one!


I am still hoping that someone takes Exum with that #2 or #3. I really want Jabari for us here in Orlando.

Same here. I would draft him and place him in the most intensive workout plan for the entire summer.... make him into a man by the end. haha. He is the most NBA ready, but media makes him seem as though he doesn't have as much potential as embiid, wiggins and even exum. He still has a lot that can improve and to me has just as much upside. It's not his fault that chances are he will probably be a near 20 or a 20+ player in his first season or so. haha

He's got a very strong lower body which has helped him bang down low in college, but his upper body looks like a kids. His measurement are what impressed me. 6'9" near 7' wings span and an 8'11.5" standing reach is not too shabby for a pf. if he loses that "baby fat" and increases his athleticism (especially lateral quickness) i can see him manning and destroying sf in this league. annnnnnd if not.... lose the baby fat... bulk up to a solid 241 lb instead of the kind of 241lb that he is now and he'll be able to torch pf.

the only issue is... how he would effect the team makeup (fit with tobias if he played sf what do we do and can he play along side Vuc) those will be the next questions for Hennigan to figure out.... but that'll be something that will be dealt with when we cross that bridge when it happens and decision will have to be made. But amassing the best talent possible comes first.... without accounting for positional need.
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Post#1009 » by Smooth_E » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:04 pm

yoyojw17 wrote:
Smooth_E wrote:
yoyojw17 wrote:
My feelings exactly! If the upside is there.... I'd rather swing for a possible franchise player... and not sit there in mediocrity. If they see it in Vonleh (he just strikes me as a cog...not saying that as a bad thing because i love players that will keep things moving... but just not at 4 if that's all he'll be) too... then so be it. It sucks playing craps at the top of the draft.... but if the FO sees potential... I'm in.

Can there be some leaks from his workout and interviews.... lol... the suspense is killing me! people got work to do other than pressing refresh all day.

On that note.... erryone have a great one!


I am still hoping that someone takes Exum with that #2 or #3. I really want Jabari for us here in Orlando.

Same here. I would draft him and place him in the most intensive workout plan for the entire summer.... make him into a man by the end. haha. He is the most NBA ready, but media makes him seem as though he doesn't have as much potential as embiid, wiggins and even exum. He still has a lot that can improve and to me has just as much upside. It's not his fault that chances are he will probably be a near 20 or a 20+ player in his first season or so. haha

He's got a very strong lower body which has helped him bang down low in college, but his upper body looks like a kids. His measurement are what impressed me. 6'9" near 7' wings span and an 8'11.5" standing reach is not too shabby for a pf. if he loses that "baby fat" and increases his athleticism (especially lateral quickness) i can see him manning and destroying sf in this league. annnnnnd if not.... lose the baby fat... bulk up to a solid 241 lb instead of the kind of 241lb that he is now and he'll be able to torch pf.

the only issue is... how he would effect the team makeup (fit with tobias if he played sf what do we do and can he play along side Vuc) those will be the next questions for Hennigan to figure out.... but that'll be something that will be dealt with when we cross that bridge when it happens and decision will have to be made. But amassing the best talent possible comes first.... without accounting for positional need.


IF we are able to be lucky enough to draft Parker (really LOW chance right now), I put him ahead of everyone in terms of starting. For me, he starts at SF, and if he's capable enough, maybe even SG. I like him at SF though. I can still dream right?

Payton - Drafted with #12
Oladipo
Parker
O'Quinn
Vucevic

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Post#1010 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:09 pm

Smooth_E wrote:
magicaroni wrote:I honestly think we would be better served to draft Vonleh or Randle at #4 and then take a PG like Payton, Lavine or Napier at #12.

The Boston Globe article cemented a couple of the things I had seen in tape and was extremely worried about. The lack of competition, comparisons to an average athletic perimeter player like Thabo, and the fact he always defaults to his right hand on layups, even on the left side of the hoop.

There is too many red flags in this kid's game IMO, and it will be ahuge risk by Hennigan to gamble on this kid. Go big with Vonleh at 4 and sure up the front line, and then add a solid compliment to Victor at #12. No need to gamble on the future of the franchise.


Safe gets you to the playoffs. Risky gets you to the Finals.


So, what risky draft pick won championships in the past decade or since 2000?
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Post#1011 » by mr2good » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:17 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Does anyone have examples of great PG's in history who were Slasher type PG's who can't drive to the left and have low release poor outside shooting?


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Post#1012 » by Smooth_E » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:23 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
Smooth_E wrote:
magicaroni wrote:I honestly think we would be better served to draft Vonleh or Randle at #4 and then take a PG like Payton, Lavine or Napier at #12.

The Boston Globe article cemented a couple of the things I had seen in tape and was extremely worried about. The lack of competition, comparisons to an average athletic perimeter player like Thabo, and the fact he always defaults to his right hand on layups, even on the left side of the hoop.

There is too many red flags in this kid's game IMO, and it will be ahuge risk by Hennigan to gamble on this kid. Go big with Vonleh at 4 and sure up the front line, and then add a solid compliment to Victor at #12. No need to gamble on the future of the franchise.


Safe gets you to the playoffs. Risky gets you to the Finals.


So, what risky draft pick won championships in the past decade or since 2000?


I never said championships. I said Finals.

Just a few examples

2003
Risky - LeBron James - HS kid (Finals: 2007, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014)
Safe - Carmelo Anthony - NCAA Champion

2004
Risky - Dwight Howard - HS kid (Finals: 2009)
Safe - Emeka Okafor - NCAA Champion

2005
Risky - Andrew Bynum - HS kid (Finals: 2008, 2009, 2010)
Safe - Marvin Williams, Raymond Felton - NCAA Champions

2006
Risky - Rajon Rondo - Avg pg NCAA (Finals: 2008)
Safe - LaMarcus Aldridge
- Bargnani was risky too, but he just sucked.
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Post#1013 » by flying_mollusk » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:26 pm

Smooth_E wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
Smooth_E wrote:
Safe gets you to the playoffs. Risky gets you to the Finals.


So, what risky draft pick won championships in the past decade or since 2000?


I never said championships. I said Finals.

Just a few examples

2003
Risky - LeBron James - HS kid (Finals: 2007, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014)
Safe - Carmelo Anthony - NCAA Champion

2004
Risky - Dwight Howard - HS kid (Finals: 2009)
Safe - Emeka Okafor - NCAA Champion

2005
Risky - Andrew Bynum - HS kid (Finals: 2008, 2009, 2010)
Safe - Marvin Williams, Raymond Felton - NCAA Champions

2006
Risky - Rajon Rondo - Avg pg NCAA (Finals: 2008)
Safe - LaMarcus Aldridge
- Bargnani was risky too, but he just sucked.


Kobe was pretty risky. Dirk was some weird guy from Germany.
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Post#1014 » by flying_mollusk » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:29 pm

Every single player has red flags. I bet if we won the lottery, we would just be debating the red flags between Wiggins' lack of fire and Embiid's back problems. Exum has his red flags, but so do Smart and Vonleh.

In fact, one of the red flags on Smart is that he starts his shot way too low, around the stomach area, which results in an imbalanced shot. Vonleh had a high number of turnovers for a big and had a low bball IQ. Exum has his shot issues and the inability to go left.

Frankly, I think everyone should have to go to draftexpress.com, start the video of their favored prospect, and then skip to the negatives part of the video.
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Post#1015 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:35 pm

mr2good wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Does anyone have examples of great PG's in history who were Slasher type PG's who can't drive to the left and have low release poor outside shooting?


I'm positive this board would be better with out BMP. Is it possible to ban someone just for being a NEGATIVE TROLL all the time!?


Just because you can't answer the question doesn't mean you have to hate on people. I just want to know if there has ever been a great PG who is mainly a slasher who has a hard time driving on the left side with a flat outside shot with low accuracy? I am sure Exum will get better at shooting in the end though, but he may end up like Harris who is weak driving left his whole career.

Thus, I just want to know of any superstars who were weak on the left or right?
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Post#1016 » by yoyojw17 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:36 pm

Smooth_E wrote:
yoyojw17 wrote:
Smooth_E wrote:
I am still hoping that someone takes Exum with that #2 or #3. I really want Jabari for us here in Orlando.

Same here. I would draft him and place him in the most intensive workout plan for the entire summer.... make him into a man by the end. haha. He is the most NBA ready, but media makes him seem as though he doesn't have as much potential as embiid, wiggins and even exum. He still has a lot that can improve and to me has just as much upside. It's not his fault that chances are he will probably be a near 20 or a 20+ player in his first season or so. haha

He's got a very strong lower body which has helped him bang down low in college, but his upper body looks like a kids. His measurement are what impressed me. 6'9" near 7' wings span and an 8'11.5" standing reach is not too shabby for a pf. if he loses that "baby fat" and increases his athleticism (especially lateral quickness) i can see him manning and destroying sf in this league. annnnnnd if not.... lose the baby fat... bulk up to a solid 241 lb instead of the kind of 241lb that he is now and he'll be able to torch pf.

the only issue is... how he would effect the team makeup (fit with tobias if he played sf what do we do and can he play along side Vuc) those will be the next questions for Hennigan to figure out.... but that'll be something that will be dealt with when we cross that bridge when it happens and decision will have to be made. But amassing the best talent possible comes first.... without accounting for positional need.


IF we are able to be lucky enough to draft Parker (really LOW chance right now), I put him ahead of everyone in terms of starting. For me, he starts at SF, and if he's capable enough, maybe even SG. I like him at SF though. I can still dream right?

Payton - Drafted with #12
Oladipo
Parker
O'Quinn
Vucevic

Very unrealistic, I know..

I would agree.... him battling it out at sf with tobias would be the best (which i would assume he would win...but given a run for his money). Just imagine if he came in at 225 lb of muscle.

Reupping with tobias is going to be the issue. If he comes back for a decent salary.... i would be ecstatic to have him playing major ginobli minutes off the bench. If his demand is high and becomes too pricey.... time to dangle in a sign and trade.... but he would be missed.

I don't see why that line up will be unrealistic though payton is gaining speed. And this is just me thinking out loud... but the shooting (even if we got exum) would be sketchy in the back court. Afflalo for the 9th pick (Gordon) would also be amazing and interchangeable @ the forward position with parker, always taking on the tougher assignment and letting parker focus on offense more. Stauskas at the other guard position would also work with their shooting and ball handling skills... but hopefully salvageable defense. Lavine as well would be a great option with his possible pg skills, shooting and athleticism.

that's 3 rookies in the starting lineup... one second year and a 4th year.... might be too youth infused for my liking but talent-wise, position wise and so on the puzzle pieces will match well. See what all pans out..... and 2015 fill in the gaps.

Dipo/Lavine
Stauskas/Dipo
Parker
Gordon
Vucevic
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Post#1017 » by OrlandO » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:43 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Does anyone have examples of great PG's in history who were Slasher type PG's who can't drive to the left and have low release poor outside shooting?

He can very easily drive left... he just finishes with his right hand. Very different from not being able to drive left at all. He shot better from the outside than Smart at FIBA despite being significantly younger and less experienced. Would he still shoot the same percentage from 3 a year later? Possibly, but it's also very possible he improved... unlike Smart who failed to improve his 3pt shooting in two seasons of college ball with a shorter line.
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Post#1018 » by magicaroni » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:47 pm

Smooth_E wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
Smooth_E wrote:
Safe gets you to the playoffs. Risky gets you to the Finals.


So, what risky draft pick won championships in the past decade or since 2000?


I never said championships. I said Finals.

Just a few examples

2003
Risky - LeBron James - HS kid (Finals: 2007, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014)
Safe - Carmelo Anthony - NCAA Champion

2004
Risky - Dwight Howard - HS kid (Finals: 2009)
Safe - Emeka Okafor - NCAA Champion

2005
Risky - Andrew Bynum - HS kid (Finals: 2008, 2009, 2010)
Safe - Marvin Williams, Raymond Felton - NCAA Champions

2006
Risky - Rajon Rondo - Avg pg NCAA (Finals: 2008)
Safe - LaMarcus Aldridge
- Bargnani was risky too, but he just sucked.


Lebron was not a risky pick. Let's make that clear. The rest of your list doesn't even make sense as most of those guys were taken outside of the top 5 their drafts. This is the #4 pick in a loaded draft. You can't mess this one up.

At least we have seen Vonleh against real college competition. His per 36 numbers are fantastic, and his game perfectly compliments Vucevic. I just see Vonleh making more sense if there is this much unknown about Dante Exum. Could Exum be a star in 5 years? Maybe. Do I personally think he will be? I lean towards no. I don't think he'll be superstar like a Derrick Rose. Don't forget that Andrew Harrison was hyped, if not more hyped than Exum coming out of high school, and he laid an egg once he faced real competition.

I'm not willing to risk this draft on this kid. If they do, I hope they have seen what they needed in the workout to convince them that this kid has the killer instinct and work ehtic to be the best PG in the league. That has to be the goal, even if he doesn't achieve it.
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Post#1019 » by Smooth_E » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:49 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Does anyone have examples of great PG's in history who were Slasher type PG's who can't drive to the left and have low release poor outside shooting?


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Post#1020 » by Smooth_E » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:51 pm

magicaroni wrote:
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So, what risky draft pick won championships in the past decade or since 2000?


I never said championships. I said Finals.

Just a few examples

2003
Risky - LeBron James - HS kid (Finals: 2007, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014)
Safe - Carmelo Anthony - NCAA Champion

2004
Risky - Dwight Howard - HS kid (Finals: 2009)
Safe - Emeka Okafor - NCAA Champion

2005
Risky - Andrew Bynum - HS kid (Finals: 2008, 2009, 2010)
Safe - Marvin Williams, Raymond Felton - NCAA Champions

2006
Risky - Rajon Rondo - Avg pg NCAA (Finals: 2008)
Safe - LaMarcus Aldridge
- Bargnani was risky too, but he just sucked.


Lebron was not a risky pick. Let's make that clear. The rest of your list doesn't even make sense as most of those guys were taken outside of the top 5 their drafts. This is the #4 pick in a loaded draft. You can't mess this one up.

At least we have seen Vonleh against real college competition. His per 36 numbers are fantastic, and his game perfectly compliments Vucevic. I just see Vonleh making more sense if there is this much unknown about Dante Exum. Could Exum be a star in 5 years? Maybe. Do I personally think he will be? I lean towards no. I don't think he'll be superstar like a Derrick Rose. Don't forget that Andrew Harrison was hyped, if not more hyped than Exum coming out of high school, and he laid an egg once he faced real competition.

I'm not willing to risk this draft on this kid. If they do, I hope they have seen what they needed in the workout to convince them that this kid has the killer instinct and work ehtic to be the best PG in the league. That has to be the goal, even if he doesn't achieve it.


I don't remember addressing this to you..

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