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Post#1001 » by drsd » Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:51 pm

OrlChamps2030 wrote:The leading scorer in the ACC last season isn’t on a NBA roster.


Hurt has a clear NBA skill: he can shoot. How is he not on an NBA roster? Is hid defense really that bad?

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Post#1003 » by pepe1991 » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:51 pm

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OrlChamps2030 wrote:The leading scorer in the ACC last season isn’t on a NBA roster.


Hurt has a clear NBA skill: he can shoot. How is he not on an NBA roster? Is hid defense really that bad?

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Post#1004 » by RookieStar » Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:44 pm

drsd wrote:
OrlChamps2030 wrote:The leading scorer in the ACC last season isn’t on a NBA roster.


Hurt has a clear NBA skill: he can shoot. How is he not on an NBA roster? Is hid defense really that bad?

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Despite having a 2nd year plus ample time to prep for the draft, Hurt didn't really "transform" his weakness aka his body and speed. Now look at someone like Garza. He knew he would be too slow in the league, thus he slimmed down.

I just think it just shows that Hurt didn't put into the work thus a red flag for some.
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Post#1005 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:25 pm

Garza has been pretty good in Detroit. Not any starting level type player but someone to develop into a backup role possibly someday. He does alot of little things that helps the team in preseason.
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Post#1006 » by MagicFan101 » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:35 pm

No Suggs. No 2022 Orlando FRP. After that, name your price.

Build around Suggs + (5 year max) Ayton + 2022 pick + whoever is left.

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Post#1007 » by pepe1991 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:33 am

MagicFan101 wrote:No Suggs. No 2022 Orlando FRP. After that, name your price.

Build around Suggs + (5 year max) Ayton + 2022 pick + whoever is left.

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Post#1008 » by pepe1991 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:22 am

Uggh Hawks ugly exstension to Huerter who is viewed as elite shooter...but never shot ball at elite level or with even average efficiency.
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Post#1009 » by drsd » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:50 am

pepe1991 wrote:Uggh Hawks ugly exstension to Huerter who is viewed as elite shooter...but never shot ball at elite level or with even average efficiency.


Are you coming around to the notion that Carter has a good contract extension?




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Post#1010 » by drsd » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:51 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:Garza has been pretty good in Detroit. Not any starting level type player but someone to develop into a backup role possibly someday. He does alot of little things that helps the team in preseason.


I really liked Garza. But the Magic has M-Wagner. This is thus not the team for him to sink or shine.

Nice to see Fall got a 2-way deal. That is another 450k in the bank for the 7'7" footer.


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Post#1011 » by pepe1991 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:57 am

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pepe1991 wrote:Uggh Hawks ugly exstension to Huerter who is viewed as elite shooter...but never shot ball at elite level or with even average efficiency.


Are you coming around to the notion that Carter has a good contract extension?




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Post#1012 » by drsd » Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:15 am

pepe1991 wrote:I didn't say it's terrible contract, just that isn't backup C money :dontknow:


So, does PBO Weltman see Carter as a starter in this interview?

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Post#1013 » by LDNMagic90 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:33 am

I don't know if it's just me, but does anyone get the sense that the hype for this years rookies is not really there compared to previous years?

I don't know if its because of the market size of the teams that got the top picks apart from Houston and Toronto (Green and Barnes). I've not seen much hype in the NBA media about most of the rookies? I guess thats good for them because they can start quietly performing without the added media attention.

This is just from my observation though so who knows
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Post#1014 » by pepe1991 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:44 am

LDNMagic90 wrote:I don't know if it's just me, but does anyone get the sense that the hype for this years rookies is not really there compared to previous years?

I don't know if its because of the market size of the teams that got the top picks apart from Houston and Toronto (Green and Barnes). I've not seen much hype in the NBA media about most of the rookies? I guess thats good for them because they can start quietly performing without the added media attention.

This is just from my observation though so who knows


This is true but not suprising.
Cavs, Pistons, Magic, OKC, Kings, Grizzlies , Hornets. Apart of Houston pick and Warriors pick, who nobody treates as anything but asset, US mainstream media simply won't care about any of those teams nor their draft picks.

When Lonzo , Fultz & Tatum were drafted massive hype was created due their destinations, Lakers, 76ers & Celtics.
Zion hype was Knicks -centric ( Lakers were also in play for him i think ? Before Davis trade ).


Let's be honest, most mainstream media won't report anything that happends in basketball world of Detroit Pistons.. I mean..even us, fans who are more on "junkie" side, hardly can name 5 Pistons players... Same with Cavs, Magic, OKC. Smaller market and irrelevant in terms of contending, death sentence.
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1015 » by LDNMagic90 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:01 am

pepe1991 wrote:
LDNMagic90 wrote:I don't know if it's just me, but does anyone get the sense that the hype for this years rookies is not really there compared to previous years?

I don't know if its because of the market size of the teams that got the top picks apart from Houston and Toronto (Green and Barnes). I've not seen much hype in the NBA media about most of the rookies? I guess thats good for them because they can start quietly performing without the added media attention.

This is just from my observation though so who knows


This is true but not suprising.
Cavs, Pistons, Magic, OKC, Kings, Grizzlies , Hornets. Apart of Houston pick and Warriors pick, who nobody treates as anything but asset, US mainstream media simply won't care about any of those teams nor their draft picks.

When Lonzo , Fultz & Tatum were drafted massive hype was created due their destinations, Lakers, 76ers & Celtics.
Zion hype was Knicks -centric ( Lakers were also in play for him i think ? Before Davis trade ).


Let's be honest, most mainstream media won't report anything that happends in basketball world of Detroit Pistons.. I mean..even us, fans who are more on "junkie" side, hardly can name 5 Pistons players... Same with Cavs, Magic, OKC. Smaller market and irrelevant in terms of contending, death sentence.


This is true, I get that the media would accommodate to the bigger markets because thats where the views are. It's just funny to me that mid to small market teams could still draft a potential franchise star and they still don't really bat an eyelid at that team.

It was so bad that I didn't know Cade hadn't played in any preseason game due to an ankle injury? You'd think that Jalen Green was the number 1 pick with the amount of hype he has right now.

Even last year with the draft in my opinion Lamelo had/has way more buzz around his name than Anthony Edwards.

The year before as you said Zion's hype came mainly from the feeling that he'd be a Knick.

2018 Deandre Ayton who now I'd say has buzz around his name, however its still nothing compared to Trae and Doncic. Which mostly helped because of Doncic achievements before entering the league and how Trae performed for Oklahoma.
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1016 » by pepe1991 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:24 am

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pepe1991 wrote:
LDNMagic90 wrote:I don't know if it's just me, but does anyone get the sense that the hype for this years rookies is not really there compared to previous years?

I don't know if its because of the market size of the teams that got the top picks apart from Houston and Toronto (Green and Barnes). I've not seen much hype in the NBA media about most of the rookies? I guess thats good for them because they can start quietly performing without the added media attention.

This is just from my observation though so who knows


This is true but not suprising.
Cavs, Pistons, Magic, OKC, Kings, Grizzlies , Hornets. Apart of Houston pick and Warriors pick, who nobody treates as anything but asset, US mainstream media simply won't care about any of those teams nor their draft picks.

When Lonzo , Fultz & Tatum were drafted massive hype was created due their destinations, Lakers, 76ers & Celtics.
Zion hype was Knicks -centric ( Lakers were also in play for him i think ? Before Davis trade ).


Let's be honest, most mainstream media won't report anything that happends in basketball world of Detroit Pistons.. I mean..even us, fans who are more on "junkie" side, hardly can name 5 Pistons players... Same with Cavs, Magic, OKC. Smaller market and irrelevant in terms of contending, death sentence.


This is true, I get that the media would accommodate to the bigger markets because thats where the views are. It's just funny to me that mid to small market teams could still draft a potential franchise star and they still don't really bat an eyelid at that team.

It was so bad that I didn't know Cade hadn't played in any preseason game due to an ankle injury? You'd think that Jalen Green was the number 1 pick with the amount of hype he has right now.

Even last year with the draft in my opinion Lamelo had/has way more buzz around his name than Anthony Edwards.

The year before as you said Zion's hype came mainly from the feeling that he'd be a Knick.

2018 Deandre Ayton who now I'd say has buzz around his name, however its still nothing compared to Trae and Doncic. Which mostly helped because of Doncic achievements before entering the league and how Trae performed for Oklahoma.


Indeed. Only things tied with Ayton nowdays is pretty much people trying to sneaky- bash Suns for being " one hit wonder".

In past, especially 2012-2017 i was really into following nba media, content, youtube, but over time i simply tapped out because amount of bull*** info, hot takes ,agenda driven crap was too much.

After some time you simply come to conclusion that perfect season for nba and nba media is: Lebron plays 82 games, averages 30 ppg, wins MVP, wins title and in nba finals is faced vs Durant where he beats him, especially if Durant is with other powerhouse of big market, in perfect world Knicks ( but Nets will do the trick) . And regardless of teams being made of 14 players, where 4,5,6,7 of them are also superstars, all the credit will go to one man ( Lebron, duuh ). Even when he loses he should win MVP... Hell, Lebron should have been finals MVP of 2021... because why not?

Last 2 years i tapped out on youtube content as well. Basically it's reddit with audio. "Meet next Lebron James"... Nassir Little...
Next Tatum... Jarret Culver... next Luka Doncic... Deni Avdija.....
At one point i wanted to start youtube channel just to make video: meet next Stromile Swift... Onyeka Okongwu to troll them ,but half of them wouldn't even get a joke...
Last year i went into one rabbithole of debate about how will Warriors " save" Marqueese Chriss career. After that i figured i will never comment on youtube again , at least about nba :lol:
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#1017 » by LDNMagic90 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:30 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
LDNMagic90 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
This is true but not suprising.
Cavs, Pistons, Magic, OKC, Kings, Grizzlies , Hornets. Apart of Houston pick and Warriors pick, who nobody treates as anything but asset, US mainstream media simply won't care about any of those teams nor their draft picks.

When Lonzo , Fultz & Tatum were drafted massive hype was created due their destinations, Lakers, 76ers & Celtics.
Zion hype was Knicks -centric ( Lakers were also in play for him i think ? Before Davis trade ).


Let's be honest, most mainstream media won't report anything that happends in basketball world of Detroit Pistons.. I mean..even us, fans who are more on "junkie" side, hardly can name 5 Pistons players... Same with Cavs, Magic, OKC. Smaller market and irrelevant in terms of contending, death sentence.


This is true, I get that the media would accommodate to the bigger markets because thats where the views are. It's just funny to me that mid to small market teams could still draft a potential franchise star and they still don't really bat an eyelid at that team.

It was so bad that I didn't know Cade hadn't played in any preseason game due to an ankle injury? You'd think that Jalen Green was the number 1 pick with the amount of hype he has right now.

Even last year with the draft in my opinion Lamelo had/has way more buzz around his name than Anthony Edwards.

The year before as you said Zion's hype came mainly from the feeling that he'd be a Knick.

2018 Deandre Ayton who now I'd say has buzz around his name, however its still nothing compared to Trae and Doncic. Which mostly helped because of Doncic achievements before entering the league and how Trae performed for Oklahoma.


Indeed. Only things tied with Ayton nowdays is pretty much people trying to sneaky- bash Suns for being " one hit wonder".

In past, especially 2012-2017 i was really into following nba media, content, youtube, but over time i simply tapped out because amount of bull*** info, hot takes ,agenda driven crap was too much.

After some time you simply come to conclusion that perfect season for nba and nba media is: Lebron plays 82 games, averages 30 ppg, wins MVP, wins title and in nba finals is faced vs Durant where he beats him, especially if Durant is with other powerhouse of big market, in perfect world Knicks ( but Nets will do the trick) . And regardless of teams being made of 14 players, where 4,5,6,7 of them are also superstars, all the credit will go to one man ( Lebron, duuh ). Even when he loses he should win MVP... Hell, Lebron should have been finals MVP of 2021... because why not?

Last 2 years i tapped out on youtube content as well. Basically it's reddit with audio. "Meet next Lebron James"... Nassir Little...
Next Tatum... Jarret Culver... next Luka Doncic... Deni Avdija.....
At one point i wanted to start youtube channel just to make video: meet next Stromile Swift... Onyeka Okongwu to troll them ,but half of them wouldn't even get a joke...
Last year i went into one rabbithole of debate about how will Warriors " save" Marqueese Chriss career. After that i figured i will never comment on youtube again , at least about nba :lol:


Honestly it can get unbearable lol, I don't think it's just the NBA media either. Over here with the Premier League coverage, they only care about the 'top 6' teams which is fine because they have a big fanbase around the world. However the other 14 teams have produced some real good talent. Last year my team Aston Villa beat Liverpool 7-2 and instead of giving Aston Villa the props it was all excuses or reasons why Liverpool were bad rather than why we was good lol.
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Post#1018 » by MagicFan101 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:32 pm

I just can’t understand how Phoenix would **** this up. They have to understand they are not a premier destination. They only got CP3 because they had the Booker + Ayton combo.

Is Ayton a LEGIT max player like Lebron or Durant? No. Who cares? But when your market allows for Denver to offer similar deals to MPjr then yes you need to do the same for Ayton or you will lose your stars soon to trade demands and fall back to bottom of the league for a decade plus.

I just don’t get it. They kid WANTS to sign a long term deal with you. Give it to him.
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Post#1019 » by YosemiteSam » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:46 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:I just can’t understand how Phoenix would **** this up. They have to understand they are not a premier destination. They only got CP3 because they had the Booker + Ayton combo.

Is Ayton a LEGIT max player like Lebron or Durant? No. Who cares? But when your market allows for Denver to offer similar deals to MPjr then yes you need to do the same for Ayton or you will lose your stars soon to trade demands and fall back to bottom of the league for a decade plus.

I just don’t get it. They kid WANTS to sign a long term deal with you. Give it to him.


I bet Detroit felt the same way when they maxed Drummond for 5 years. By year 3 he was one of the worst contracts in the league. Beware paying centers.....
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Post#1020 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:57 pm

YosemiteSam wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:I just can’t understand how Phoenix would **** this up. They have to understand they are not a premier destination. They only got CP3 because they had the Booker + Ayton combo.

Is Ayton a LEGIT max player like Lebron or Durant? No. Who cares? But when your market allows for Denver to offer similar deals to MPjr then yes you need to do the same for Ayton or you will lose your stars soon to trade demands and fall back to bottom of the league for a decade plus.

I just don’t get it. They kid WANTS to sign a long term deal with you. Give it to him.


I bet Detroit felt the same way when they maxed Drummond for 5 years. By year 3 he was one of the worst contracts in the league. Beware paying centers.....


Don't max out centers that cant create offense. He was a bystander in the finals.
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