Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXIV Off-Season Edition)

BelgianMagic · Post #1021 » by **BelgianMagic** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:20 pm

M.S. Boyer/J. Valade ‏@PDcavsinsider
Here's the latest: Another source says trade talk is premature and that nothing will happen today. Lots of moving parts here to nail down

MoMM · Post #1022 » by **MoMM** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:20 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
Leoj wrote:Reported trade

Orlando gets:
- Brook Lopez (S&T)
- Shelden Williams (S&T)
- Damion Jones (S&T)
- Luke Walton ($6 million)
- 3 Draft Picks

Brooklyn gets:
- Dwight Howard ($19 million)
- Jason Richardson ($6 million)
- Earl Clark ($1 million)

Cleveland gets:
- Kris Humphries (S&T)
- Sundiata Gaines (S&T)
- Quentin Richardson ($3 million)
- 2 Draft Picks

Clippers get:
- Marshon Brooks ($1 million)

One bad contract won't kill a rebuild. 3 of them will.

Add another draft pick to Orlando, coming from Clippers. Totaling 4 draft picks.

Cavaliers almost got the same thing, but they just send Walton, not D12.

4 picks > 2 picks
Lopez = KH

So we can say that Walton + 2 late 1st = D12.

tiderulz · Post #1023 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:20 pm

vinageras wrote:Brook Lopez got 8 rebounds a game thanks to Kris Humphries boxing out. Without him, he is a 6 rebound kind of guy! We're going to get the same rebounds we got from Dwight only, with our 2 frontcourt players...

Lopez averaged 8 a game before Humphries was even on the Nets. And the 2nd year, he was barely in games.

I'm all againgst this trade too, but at least use real facts.

D12VCMagic · Post #1024 » by **D12VCMagic** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:20 pm

You know, if we were getting rid of Hedo and Duhon, I'd love this trade. Still having them on the team after this deal bothers me.

Potterman · Post #1025 » by **Potterman** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:20 pm

So does anyone think that Lopez could magically pull it together and become a Dirk type player.

Ok stop laughing now.

Ahmadab · Post #1026 » by **Ahmadab** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:21 pm

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
Sources: Four-way Nets-Magic-Cavs-Clippers trade for Dwight Howard getting "close"

Swish

PeePee la Fritz · Post #1027 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:21 pm

Leoj wrote:Reported trade

Orlando gets:
- Brook Lopez (S&T)
- Shelden Williams (S&T)
- Damion Jones (S&T)
- Luke Walton ($6 million)
- 3 Draft Picks

Brooklyn gets:
- Dwight Howard ($19 million)
- Jason Richardson ($6 million)
- Earl Clark ($1 million)

Cleveland gets:
- Kris Humphries (S&T)
- Sundiata Gaines (S&T)
- Quentin Richardson ($3 million)
- 2 Draft Picks

Clippers get:
- Marshon Brooks ($1 million)

One bad contract won't kill a rebuild. 3 of them will.

God that is awful! Maybe the worst trade of all time! :nonono:

And I do not blame Hennigan. He got thrown into a no win situation. I will give him 3 years before I start judging. I like the front office hires he has made, Shaw or Malone will be great coaching choices, now I just gotta keep telling myself to be patient and see what his vision is for the roster

CraZyPraiZ · Post #1028 » by **CraZyPraiZ** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:21 pm

Gawd this f%^&*g deal just keeps looking worse and worse. The hell with this. Let the f^*&ker walk next year and sit on the bench while we tank. Those draft picks mean absolutely nothing.

MoMM · Post #1029 » by **MoMM** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:22 pm

D12VCMagic wrote:You know, if we were getting rid of Hedo and Duhon, I'd love this trade. Still having them on the team after this deal bothers me.

No reason to give something to take Hedo or Duhon, they will be out of Magic in 2 years.

The Real Dalic · Post #1030 » by **The Real Dalic** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:22 pm

Potterman wrote:So does anyone think that Lopez could magically pull it together and become a Dirk type player.

Ok stop laughing now.

Cammo101 · Post #1031 » by **Cammo101** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:22 pm

This trade is so bad for so many different reasons.

Nyce_1 · Post #1032 » by **Nyce_1** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:22 pm

Listening to Baumann on ESPN 1080 and says Magic are a little concerned about Shaw running triangle. Not too sold about the offense.

NEM · Post #1033 » by **NEM** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:22 pm

Potterman wrote:So does anyone think that Lopez could magically pull it together and become a Dirk type player.

Ok stop laughing now.

no sure if serious

Nolimit1211 · Post #1034 » by **Nolimit1211** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:22 pm

Duhon has a team option after this year and Hedo will only e half guaranteed. Of course you send out j.Brick and his long contract. Stop whining.

MagicTownBaller · Post #1035 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:23 pm

Ahmadab wrote:Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
Sources: Four-way Nets-Magic-Cavs-Clippers trade for Dwight Howard getting "close"

Swish

Everyone is saying that it's getting "close"

MoMM · Post #1036 » by **MoMM** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:23 pm

Can't we at least send Duhon instead of Clark?

MagicTownBaller · Post #1037 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:23 pm

Nolimit1211 wrote:Duhon has a team option after this year and Hedo will only e half guaranteed. Of course you send out j.Brick and his long contract. Stop whining.

Duhon is guaranteed $1.5M and Turkoglu is guaranteed $6M.

MagicTownBaller · Post #1038 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:24 pm

MoMM wrote:Can't we at least send Duhon instead of Clark?

+1

PeePee la Fritz · Post #1039 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:24 pm

Nolimit1211 wrote:Duhon has a team option after this year and Hedo will only e half guaranteed. Of course you send out j.Brick and his long contract. Stop whining.

Exactly. J Rich is the one that needs to be moved. It'd be nice to dump Turk and Duhon, but it isn't worth giving up picks or assets to a team just to take them

magic04life · Post #1040 » by **magic04life** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:24 pm

At least Magic tix will be dirt cheap!