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OFFICIAL DWIGHT HOWARD TRADE / SPECULATION / THOUGHT THREAD

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Re: OFFICIAL DWIGHT HOWARD TRADE / SPECULATION / THOUGHT THR 

Post#1041 » by Gerhalt11 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:49 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:I wouldn't do that deal with the Rockets since BBD is a steal on his contract. Take BBD out and I am in.


Agree. With Dwight and Ryno gone, BBD is our only proven front court player. I think we need to hold on to him, even if it means also holding on to Hedo.

Dwight, J-Rich and Duhon for cap relief and young players/picks is the best offer I've heard so far and I think it's the best deal we'll get. Assuming it's real, I think we have to take it.

Also, I do not think a disgruntled Dwight will put up his usual numbers for a squad he doesn't want to play for. Those picks from Houston will be much more valuable than the Brooklyn picks would have been.
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Re: OFFICIAL DWIGHT HOWARD TRADE / SPECULATION / THOUGHT THR 

Post#1042 » by doct3r dr3 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:48 pm

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BadMofoPimp wrote:I wouldn't do that deal with the Rockets since BBD is a steal on his contract. Take BBD out and I am in.


Agree. With Dwight and Ryno gone, BBD is our only proven front court player. I think we need to hold on to him, even if it means also holding on to Hedo.

Dwight, J-Rich and Duhon for cap relief and young players/picks is the best offer I've heard so far and I think it's the best deal we'll get. Assuming it's real, I think we have to take it.

Also, I do not think a disgruntled Dwight will put up his usual numbers for a squad he doesn't want to play for. Those picks from Houston will be much more valuable than the Brooklyn picks would have been.


Another thing to consider, if Dwight leaves them high and dry, and they're stuck with the likes of Big Baby, Duhon et al. for a few years, then those 2014, 2015 HOU draft picks...

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Post#1043 » by eyriq » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:08 pm

BBD is a steal at his contract?

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Re: OFFICIAL DWIGHT HOWARD TRADE / SPECULATION / THOUGHT THR 

Post#1044 » by G-Heel » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:43 pm

Are people on crack? I would love to get rid of BBD and his contract. He's a big man that shoot 42% from the field and get blocked all the time. He was good in the playoff, but are we doing anything anytime soon without Dwight?

Start the youth movement, don't let BBD chuck and take playing time from them.
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So are these Dwight's Options for end of next season? 

Post#1045 » by Timmus17 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:51 pm

So from my knowledge of the whole Dwight Howard "Indecision" is that he obviously is in the hands of the Orlando Magic right now. We own him, so essentially right now he can only do what we do with him. Since he opted in to his contract and is stuck with us he couldn't make it to Brooklyn this summer unless we traded him. Following the end of this year it would seem that Dwight doesn't have many options. Dwight can't get signed by his favorite Nets because of the salaries they have there, and all the other "Big Market Teams" won't have the cap space either to fit in a Max contract that Dwight would demand.

Is my understanding of this correct and his best option to Resign here in Orlando for a Max deal, and hope that Hennigan can make some really Magic for our reformed Magicians?
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Post#1046 » by ivDT » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:59 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:I wouldn't do that deal with the Rockets since BBD is a steal on his contract. Take BBD out and I am in.


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Post#1047 » by grayson11 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:01 pm

eyriq wrote:BBD is a steal at his contract?

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On top of that, he would only help a tanking team win more games. If you want to tank, why keep a veteran to take up cap space AND floor time that the young guys can showcase with.
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Post#1048 » by p0peye » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:07 pm

G-Heel wrote:Are people on crack? I would love to get rid of BBD and his contract. He's a big man that shoot 42% from the field and get blocked all the time. He was good in the playoff, but are we doing anything anytime soon without Dwight?

Start the youth movement, don't let BBD chuck and take playing time from them.


BBD and JRich are only one that extend past 2014, so we are to get rid of them sooner or later and after a strong postseason, it is way easier to move BBD. If Houston is willing to take them both, we must unload these contracts as next season it might cost a pick to find someone else.
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Post#1049 » by Gerhalt11 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:18 pm

BBD's contract is not great, but J-Rich's and Hedo's are worse. We should prioritize dumping them first. And of the three, taking their contracts into consideration, I'd prefer to keep BBD over the other two. He stepped it up in the playoffs.

And without him, as it stands now, out starting center for the 2012-2013 season would be...

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...exactly.
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Post#1050 » by eyriq » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:21 pm

About Hedo, next summer his contract goes from being toxic to a good asset. He will be an expiring contract and on top of that a team can acquire him and then cut him for immediate cap relief. I could see that actually being valuable to a few teams needing to adjust payroll in preparation for taxageddon.
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Re: So are these Dwight's Options for end of next season? 

Post#1051 » by happypedro12 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:27 pm

Where there is a will there is a way. If Dwight wants out he's going to be traded and I think everyone who still would welcome him back (myself included) need to realize that the chances of him coming back are 1 in 10000000. Being a GM you still have to try to at least keep the option to him that he can come back, but you plan for life without him. Someone somewhere will make a trade the Magic like. Now IMO I don't see any reason why we have to rush to make the trade, let everything settle and just go find a coach right now. But the best C in the league has options.
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Post#1052 » by cedric76 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:28 pm

Not sure whta is funny, BBD has a great contract, i wish we keep him
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Re: So are these Dwight's Options for end of next season? 

Post#1053 » by eyriq » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:29 pm

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Post#1054 » by orlandomike » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:40 pm

This is very interesting.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... m/related/

Who wouldnt do this.

Sources told ESPN.com that the Rockets, should they go ahead with their widely reported plans to release starting power forward Luis Scola via the NBA’s amnesty clause, are prepared to absorb the contracts of Jason Richardson, Glen Davis and Chris Duhon — in addition to sending Orlando multiple future first-round picks and recent draftees — to give the Magic an opportunity to wipe their payroll virtually clean for their post-Howard rebuilding effort….

Sources say that the Rockets would have to send Kevin Martin, Patrick Patterson, Marcus Morris and Chandler Parsons to the Magic from their current roster to make the salary-cap math work, as well the draft rights to Jeremy Lamb, Royce White and Terrence Jones, all selected in last month’s first round.

The Rockets, in addition, would also have to waive a handful of players with non-guaranteed contracts (Shaun Livingston, Courtney Fortson, Josh Harrellson, Jerome Jordan, Jon Leuer, Diamon Simpson and Greg Smith) to clear sufficient cap space. But Houston, sources say, is also offering multiple first-round picks to the Magic, including a potential lottery pick acquired this week from Toronto in the Kyle Lowry deal.
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Re: OFFICIAL DWIGHT HOWARD TRADE / SPECULATION / THOUGHT THR 

Post#1055 » by grayson11 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:20 pm

Gerhalt11 wrote:BBD's contract is not great, but J-Rich's and Hedo's are worse. We should prioritize dumping them first. And of the three, taking their contracts into consideration, I'd prefer to keep BBD over the other two. He stepped it up in the playoffs.

And without him, as it stands now, out starting center for the 2012-2013 season would be...

...

...

...exactly.

Once Dwight is gone, what exactly is our goal? Since winning is no longer the objective for a rebuilding team, why does it matter if we plug in Gus, O'Quinn or (insert young Houston player name here) at the 5 spot?
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Post#1056 » by TDJacksonville » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:22 pm

orlandomike wrote:This is very interesting.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... m/related/

Who wouldnt do this.

Sources told ESPN.com that the Rockets, should they go ahead with their widely reported plans to release starting power forward Luis Scola via the NBA’s amnesty clause, are prepared to absorb the contracts of Jason Richardson, Glen Davis and Chris Duhon — in addition to sending Orlando multiple future first-round picks and recent draftees — to give the Magic an opportunity to wipe their payroll virtually clean for their post-Howard rebuilding effort….

Sources say that the Rockets would have to send Kevin Martin, Patrick Patterson, Marcus Morris and Chandler Parsons to the Magic from their current roster to make the salary-cap math work, as well the draft rights to Jeremy Lamb, Royce White and Terrence Jones, all selected in last month’s first round.

The Rockets, in addition, would also have to waive a handful of players with non-guaranteed contracts (Shaun Livingston, Courtney Fortson, Josh Harrellson, Jerome Jordan, Jon Leuer, Diamon Simpson and Greg Smith) to clear sufficient cap space. But Houston, sources say, is also offering multiple first-round picks to the Magic, including a potential lottery pick acquired this week from Toronto in the Kyle Lowry deal.


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Post#1057 » by otownflava21 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:43 am

Could the Rockets be trying so hard to get Jeremy Lin becuase:

A) A borederline All-star point gaurd to line up with Howard

B) Dwight loves being in China and is very marketable there (Could you imagine the two of them paired together doing commercials?)

Don't forget one of the other legendary centers who won a ring there that has a history with Dwight. Houston and Howard are seeming more and more of a match for him. There must of been a reason why Bynum was rumored to be in favor of signing with the Rockets. I think they are the easy no-brainer trade partners for the Magic. First T-mac to Houston, now Dwight maybe lol...
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Post#1058 » by BadMofoPimp » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:51 am

cedric76 wrote:Not sure whta is funny, BBD has a great contract, i wish we keep him


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Post#1060 » by enetric » Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:00 am

New article from Aldridge tonight. If this is true and the package doesnt improve without Dwight agreeing to an extension, how do you guys feel about this offer....

DWIGHT UPDATE: NOT CLOSE TO A TRADE WITH ROCKETS
July 13, 2012 · 10:29PM


Friday came and went, and just like all the other days that have passed since June 24, 2004, Dwight Howard was still a member of the Orlando Magic.

Despite the Houston Rockets using the amnesty provision to waive forward Luis Scola, there was no trade of Howard from Orlando to Houston, and sources briefed on the talks between the two sides said the teams weren’t nearly as close to a trade as many have speculated. That can change in an instant, of course, but late Friday, there was no deal.

Talks between the two sides are “not active,” one source said Friday.
“There’s nothing happening,” another source said.

The Rockets, according to a league source briefed on the discussions, are willing to take one bad contract back from the Magic, not two or three, as has been speculated. And in return, Houston will give up one of the their three first-round picks in last month’s Draft– Jeremy Lamb, Royce White or Terrence Jones –but only one.


The Rockets would be willing to send a future draft pick to Orlando –presumably the Lottery-protected first-rounder Houston received this week from Toronto for guard Kyle Lowry — and send a veteran player to the Magic, helping Orlando clear $10 to $15 million worth of cap room, in exchange for the six-time All-Star and three-time Defensive Player of the Year.

Orlando has several high-priced contracts it would like to clear if it opts to trade Howard, including forward Hedo Turkoglu (two years, $23.4 million remaining, though the last year of the deal is not fully guaranteed) and guards Jason Richardson (three years, $18.6 million) and Chris Duhon (two years, $7.2 million).

Waiving Scola, who was due $20.6 million over the next three seasons, was not done just to give Houston a better shot at Howard, according to the source. With the Rockets in full pursuit of Howard, however, keeping a high-priced player like Scola on the roster didn’t make much sense going forward — especially if Houston isn’t successful in getting Howard.

By cutting Scola now, the Rockets will be able to take a big contract back at any point this season if it suits their rebuilding plans. After spending the last three years trapped in NBA mediocrity following the injuries to and eventual retirement of franchise center Yao Ming, the Rockets are determined to land a star or construct a roster of players with the potential to become stars.

To that end, the Rockets officially tendered a three-year, $25.1 million offer sheet on Friday to Knicks restricted free agent Jeremy Lin. The Rockets reworked their deal from the original offer they had negotiated with Lin, eliminating a year of the offer but raising Lin’s third-year salary up to $14.898 million, in an attempt to make the offer sheet as difficult as possible for New York to match.
League sources continue to indicate that the Knicks will match, however, feeling Lin’s potential both as a player and as someone whose marketability is unlimited are too important to pass up. But with a roster that currently only has veterans Toney Douglas and Shaun Livingston as point guards, Houston felt it had to do whatever it could to get Lin.

The Rockets are still expected to tender a similar three-year, $25 million offer sheet to Bulls reserve center Omer Asik.

Meanwhile, Orlando continues to take a methodical approach toward dealing Howard, who has indicated the only team with whom he’d be willing to sign a contract extension after this season is Brooklyn. Howard has been adamant that he would not re-sign in Houston if traded there.

However, the Rockets remain convinced they can change his mind once he gets to town. He has a strong relationship with Rockets legend and Hall of Fame center Hakeem Olajuwon, who told FoxSportsFlorida Friday night that he’d been asked to reach out to Howard if and when a trade is made.

Orlando is determined trade Howard on its own timetable, when it gets the combination of picks and young players it wants. The Magic, who are still looking to hire a new coach and just hired new general manager Rob Hennigan late last month, may be trying to replicate the formula used by the Nuggets in 2011, when Denver held onto forward Carmelo Anthony for months and months until the Knicks offered a package featuring Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler and Timofey Mozgov for a Denver package featuring Anthony and Chauncey Billups.

Orlando is continuing to talk to other teams, including the Lakers. But after sending two future firsts and two seconds to the Suns in the sign and trade deal for Steve Nash, Los Angeles is out of Draft picks to offer in the near future. The Nets are out of the picture for the foreseeable future after re-signing center Brook Lopez, who was supposed to be the centerpiece of any offer to Orlando for Howard, to a four-year, $60.8 million deal earlier this week. Under league rules Brooklyn cannot trade Lopez until Jan. 15

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