Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XLI Off-Season Edition)

[arsenal6106]

Tony Mejia ‏@TonyMejiaNBA
After riding Dwightmare rollercoaster all July, look for deal to be in place in next 2 weeks. Magic/Rockets, surely. Lakers, maybe. No Cavs.

All July?

More like 7 months.

[MAGICian619]

Tony Mejia ‏@TonyMejiaNBA
After riding Dwightmare rollercoaster all July, look for deal to be in place in next 2 weeks. Magic/Rockets, surely. Lakers, maybe. No Cavs.

Finally a tweet that makes sense.

[SolidSnake008]

So my assumption is we're just waiting for Donatas to be available? might be a gamble....don't know what Dwight is going to say next to hurt his value lol......

[Tayswagzzz]

We just might be able to milk that Houston trade the longer we wait. We also might be able to convince Dwight to stay the longer we wait. Time will tell.

[OrlandoMajinBuu]

We just might be able to milk that Houston trade the longer we wait. We also might be able to convince Dwight to stay the longer we wait. Time will tell.

I think Dwight to Houston is getting near... If you go to the Houston twitter, they now are following Dwight boyfriend JRudolph. As we are know Rudolph must be in the package on sending Dwight to Houston.

[MAGICian619]

We just might be able to milk that Houston trade the longer we wait. We also might be able to convince Dwight to stay the longer we wait. Time will tell.

I think Dwight to Houston is getting near... If you go to the Houston twitter, they now are following Dwight boyfriend JRudolph. As we are know Rudolph must be in the package on sending Dwight to Houston.

Dumping JRuldolph in the deal with Howard will be just as sweet as Duhon. They are both overpaid and do their jobs at a middle school level.

[OrlandoMajinBuu]

We just might be able to milk that Houston trade the longer we wait. We also might be able to convince Dwight to stay the longer we wait. Time will tell.

I think Dwight to Houston is getting near... If you go to the Houston twitter, they now are following Dwight boyfriend JRudolph. As we are know Rudolph must be in the package on sending Dwight to Houston.

Dumping JRuldolph in the deal with Howard will be just as sweet as Duhon. They are both overpaid and do their jobs at a middle school level.

Yeah +Dudu.

[rcklsscognition]

If Hennigan can bring us DMo and 2 of Lamb Royce Jones, plus a pick or two, that's a great start. 2 more weeks till DMo can be moved. I can't believe Houston still hasn't signed a rookie and made them play summer camp without a contract.

[thelead]

If Hennigan can bring us DMo and 2 of Lamb Royce Jones, plus a pick or two, that's a great start. 2 more weeks till DMo can be moved. I can't believe Houston still hasn't signed a rookie and made them play summer camp without a contract.

Honestly at this point, I would be happy with not dumping any salary as long as we get:

DMo
Lamb
Jones or White or Parsons
Tor pick

[Ahmadab]

If Hennigan can bring us DMo and 2 of Lamb Royce Jones, plus a pick or two, that's a great start. 2 more weeks till DMo can be moved. I can't believe Houston still hasn't signed a rookie and made them play summer camp without a contract.

Honestly at this point, I would be happy with not dumping any salary as long as we get:

DMo
Lamb
Jones or White or Parsons
Tor pick

Pretty much yeah

K-Mart is a must to make the salary work
Donut
Lamb
White
Toronto Pick

for

Dwight and anyone i don't care.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui5qthxTVvw[/youtube]

This place has been dead btw..

[dsg2021]

I don't think Montiejunas is trade-able until Aug. 15th or so, long enough to make me think he's not going to be included, but obviously Hennigan has shown to be patient enough if he really wants him.

[Ahmadab]

I don't think Montiejunas is trade-able until Aug. 15th or so, long enough to make me think he's not going to be included, but obviously Hennigan has shown to be patient enough if he really wants him.

It's August 6th i think

[tiderulz]

houston wants to keep Kevin Martin if at all possible. And I could easily see Parsons beating out Hedo for starting SF and Dmo and Ayon fighting for the starting position. Remember, Ayon may be older, but he has just 1 year in the NBA. so i disagree that any current vets, especially ones like Hedo and KMart, would keep rookies from playing. They might keep someone from starting initially, but it isnt who starts, its who plays and finishes.

But that is not really the point if they can beat them out. You want to maximize their potential trade value. Let them have "career years" and then trade them for young players & picks.

maximize who's trade values? Hedo? Duhon? Ayon? Martin? Martin will be a FA, so his wont matter, no one is going to trade for him unless they are dumping a long term deal. No one is trading for Hedo or Duhon unless Dwight is coming with them.

[Ahmadab]

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[Hotshot Hower]

Yes, I know.. Everyone has sources, but found this tidbit:
http://truebluenation.com/forum/index.php?/topic/23349-the-dwight-howard-drama-unfolds/page__st__6888

(from a fella by the name of cyberx from TBN board)

I know its late Sunday night, but I have some information to pass on. First off, I'm fully aware of all the bogus twitter "sources" from ping to vecsey.Even people on here that claim to speak to D12.I'm not going to explain who I know, because it would totally jeopardize my career and his career also. You can take my information with a grain of salt, I frankly don't care. All I ask is if you disagree , then respectfully disagree because I was told not to release this information. Things can change every hour, and they have been. But as of 11pm Sunday July 23 here is what I was told:

Dwight Howard will be traded to the Rockets by Wednesday, and possibly Tuesday depending on Bulls statement. I am not sure why some twitter reporters are saying "2 weeks", that simply isn't what I was told . I could be an agent, a GM, or relative. The more I speak, the more risk I bring to myself. I was told without a doubt, Lamb & Jones are going to the Magic, and that Donatas,Parsons, & White are staying with Rockets. Lakers are not involved. Magic receive picks, and compensation. I will update you with anything else that speeds up the meetings, or changes.

Regardless, I will not say which side I work on, which agent, or which team. I have been told that all parties are happy with the final agreement(except one player,can you guess which one?). Unless Dwight says something outrageous tomorrow, the framework is there and has been agreed to.

Guys, I work 60 hrs a week for an agent. Im retiring for the night. The framework is martin,lamb,jones,picks,morris,non guaranteed , and dh,jr,ch,bbd.

By all means interesting, but if you must, flame-on!

[Hotshot Hower]

and more.. (pretty entertaining stuff)

Oh I see, several rocket fans have been tricked over the years so they are skeptical. Like when an insider was telling them on draft night that DH was going there on draft night, and now they all dont believe ****....I understand. Just one problem,DH WAS coming to the rockets on draft night, and the bobcats taking MKG destroyed the 3 way with orlando and kings. Only a few team reps even know about this deal in place on draft night. DH didnt even know.

Doesnt matter. There are some fine asian girls in htown to keep DH happy. Give him some spicy singapore noodles, a lifetime pass to Treasures vip, and he wont think about la,bk,or mavs ever again. We kept Tmac happy this way, we kept Cato happy this way, and kept Sir Charles happy this way. Didnt work on Hakeem, he likes Jordanian girls and left htown. Cato ended up retiring in Atlanta after orlando, got real fat, and literally spends all his money at strip clubs in atlanta. Francis drives around htown lost because he's whack out on bath salts, and mobley is high as a kite on pot because of his "PHARMACY" he opened up in la. In essence, we traded away 3 full blown druggies to you for the rights to Tmac, and we are about to trade another pothead in Lamb for DH. Once you get Lamb, and see his interviews, trust me, all of you are going to say "wtf is he on!!!"

The bold is easily the most hilarious. Weisbrod, what were you thinking?

[Hotshot Hower]

Lastly,

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopi ... tart=39225

from the same dude apparently:

I had posted some stuff I had heard from a relative who works within AEG not too long ago. The info was verified legitimate, so I got a few more nuggets last night. Believe or not believe, I'm still willing to share.

-Lakers were THIS close to acquiring Howard a week and a half ago, until Orlando changed the terms and tried pushing Hedo onto LA at the very last minute. It really irked Jim Buss, who proceeded to give call Hennigan and give him a "verbal assault", from what I was told. Supposedly there's pretty much an unsaid "code" that goes along with trades and more importantly, "trade protocol" that teams stick to, and the fact that Orlando's newly minted GM had the audacity to bypass the "manners system" really infuriated Buss. Word is he handed Henn his lunch, much to Kupchak's chagrin.

-After that blow up, Orlando then changed their "wants" yet again, now focusing on wanting to get cheap expirings, rather than a proven player, along with multiple picks & cap relief. But the rumor was, they still indeed wanted the all star, AND the picks, cap relief, salary dumps, etc. That scared away EVERYONE, including Atlanta, and even Dallas(as if they could even muster a package to begin with), leaving the Lakers still there...and Houston. Word is, without the Rockets in the picture LA would've already had this trade completed, but now they're being leveraged against the Lakers.

-Howard vehemently does NOT want to play in Houston, period. Regardless of contract length incentives by staying with them, Dwight WILL get outta there after the lone season he'd have to play for the team. Morey knows this, and although nobody really knows what he's doing( some GMs and front office people around the league joke that it'd take a "rocket scientist" to understand the guy), his play might be to just muck things up..and maybe get either Howard with the inherit risk attached...or Bynum. One thing I know for certain, is he will NOT gut the entire team for either player.

-Cleveland really, really wants Andrew Bynum. They've been very proactive in trade talks, not resisting being the catalyst for LA to get Howard. They see it as a means to an end in order to pair up Drew along with Irving. They're absolutely in love with that prospect.

-Bynum is receptive to signing long term with either Houston or Cleveland, leaning more toward the Cavaliers. The rumors bug him, but he's certainly used to them and it doesn't make him very upset. He likes that he's wanted.

-Buss has definitely wanted to walk away from talks on numerous occasions, but Mitch has stepped in to calm the situation down.

-One last thing, I hear the Lakers will stay over the cap and will actually add if necessary these next couple seasons, to maximize Kobe's final opportunities to get more rings.

Man writing this on my phone totally was a chore.. well just wanted to let you know what I heard.

[Bensational]

interesting read Hower. thanks for the post.

gotta say, if Houston manage to keep Donatas, Parsons and White, then they're shrewd negotiators.

Dwight/Asik
BBD/Donatas/Patterson
Parsons/White
(KMart?)/JRich
Lin/Duhon

i think that team instantly has the pieces to be better than last year's Magic, plus they'll have the youth and depth in Asik/BBD/DM/Patterson/White that they can trade in the future if they need to strengthen positions.

i think that once Dwight starts playing with Lin, he'll become very happy in Houston, and he will probably even have an MVP season next year - since he's likely to go into that team with a chip on his shoulder, an agenda to get as much out of that situation as he can for him, and because Lin will actually be able to get him the ball when and where he should.

[Michael Lucky]

That guy is the worst fake ive ever seen.

So let me get this straight, he works for an agent but knows exactly what bynum is thinking, Jim Buss exact reaction along with Mitch. He also knows exactly Clevelands point of view. Knows the exact specifics of a deal before completed and then expectsto sell us that Rob is dumb enough to trade Dwight for three role players and the tenth pick including of those role players that could not get out of the d-league last year?

oh and knows the lakers exact course of action after this summer? Since when does management tell some random agent of one of their players what they plan to do in the future?

Talk about someone trying to sell himself way too hard. Works for an agent of one of the lakers players but knows the exact specifics of a deal that has nothing to do with the lakers....

[AdamTheGreek]

Lamb may be a pothead, but Parsons is a coke addict.