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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1041 » by OrlandoNed » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:33 pm

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magicfan217 wrote:Here's an interesting proposal: Jeff Green for Rudy Gay....who says no?


Interesting, SAC has a shot at making playoffs, and Gay is hurt so there is a need.

We'd have to get something out of it, Both are UFAs so we aren't saving $$. I'd do it for a 2nd rounder though, or maybe we through in Zimm plus a 2nd and they add Skal or Willie?


Gay is under contract for one more year after this one.

Which is a player option which he likely will exercise given he's coming off a torn Achilles, I believe.
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Post#1042 » by magicfan4life88 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:35 pm

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... the Celtics would need to surrender at least a first-pick for the 2018 draft to acquire a backup center to help improve their interior defense ...


I wonder if Boston could out-right absorb Biyombo's contract. A 2018 1st from the Celts is intriguing.


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now if we did that id be very happy with a green for gay swap
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1043 » by trebone » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:03 pm

Pass on Rudy Gay, hes older and coming off a major injury, plus hell probably opt into his deal. id rather just let green walk
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1044 » by rcklsscognition » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:32 pm

Vuc off the market according to Howard Beck.

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=18691189
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1045 » by OrlandoDream » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:35 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Vuc off the market according to Howard Beck.

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=18691189

Nobody is off the market but Im willing to say that it would take the most to get Vuc. He has put up with a lot of crap this year. I dont blame him for being upset. he has been here the longest and gets treated bad. Hopefully with Serge gone he returns to his old self. He has been our best player lately. If Nets want 2 1st for Vuc, that should be our starting offer too.
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1046 » by JBSouthpaw » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:44 pm

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Interesting, SAC has a shot at making playoffs, and Gay is hurt so there is a need.

We'd have to get something out of it, Both are UFAs so we aren't saving $$. I'd do it for a 2nd rounder though, or maybe we through in Zimm plus a 2nd and they add Skal or Willie?


Gay is under contract for one more year after this one.

Which is a player option which he likely will exercise given he's coming off a torn Achilles, I believe.


Knew he had a player option, forgot about him blowing his Achilles, thanks. I'd still trade them D.J. Augustin for Gay....I'd take 1 year of Gay not playing vs. 3 more years of DJ's contract....
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1047 » by Def Swami » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:49 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Vuc off the market according to Howard Beck.

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=18691189

I'm alright with that.
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The Trade Thread II 

Post#1048 » by PrimeThyme » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:51 pm

If NO's offers their 2017 first and a prospect for Vuc I think you have to take it. I won't believe Vuc is off the market until the trade deadline passes. I think an offer to good might present itself.
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Post#1049 » by JBSouthpaw » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:08 pm

PrimeShaq wrote:If NO's offers their 2017 first and a prospect for Vuc I think you have to take it. I won't believe Vuc is off the market until the trade deadline passes. I think an offer to good might present itself.


so, Buddy and their 1st for Vuc?? I'd do it, maybe even add Mario.
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Post#1050 » by magicfan4life88 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:19 pm

as ive mentioned before its not that I want to trade evan, but if we have a better fit for the team id do it, like Fournier for Wilson chandler or will barton, gives us a better fit at the 3 with ross going to the 2, unless we decide to play evan at the 3 since he has a bigger body then ross
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1051 » by Bensational » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:39 pm

As long as Vuc and Fournier are on the team as our top guys, we'll continue to struggle with leadership, effort and defense.

You don't want to trade them for the sake of trading them, but they're gonna have to go at one point or another. It would be nice if it were sooner rather than later if we could get guys with good attitudes and hustle like Jae Crawford or Faried.
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1052 » by Bensational » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:42 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Vuc off the market according to Howard Beck.

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=18691189


Was interesting to hear Lowe say what I've been saying since the summer that he doesn't believe a defense can work with a C like Vuc/Val/AlJef/Monroe/etc with a PF like Ibaka, because the PF is out on the perimeter mostly these days.

And Lowe and Beck also saying that there are too many offense only no defense C's out on the market already. That's probably why Vuc is off the market - because there's no market or value out there for him.

He is the definition of fool's gold.
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1053 » by PrimeThyme » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:43 pm

JBSouthpaw wrote:
PrimeShaq wrote:If NO's offers their 2017 first and a prospect for Vuc I think you have to take it. I won't believe Vuc is off the market until the trade deadline passes. I think an offer to good might present itself.


so, Buddy and their 1st for Vuc?? I'd do it, maybe even add Mario.

That would be ideal but im not sure the Pelicans are willing or ready to deal him. They don't have to many young guys so we'd probably have to get a third team involved.
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1054 » by Nemesis21 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:56 pm

Would say, Vucevic and Hezonja for Hield, Ajinca and their 2017 pick work?

Then I would try to see what we could get for Fournier and the TOR/LAC pick?


Have two top 10 picks, push the Lakers out of top 3 and get a 1st from them :D
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1055 » by PrimeThyme » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:34 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:Would say, Vucevic and Hezonja for Hield, Ajinca and their 2017 pick work?

Then I would try to see what we could get for Fournier and the TOR/LAC pick?


Have two top 10 picks, push the Lakers out of top 3 and get a 1st from them :D

Sign me up.
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1056 » by EasternMagic » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:02 pm

Vuc should be off the market. He's our best player and he's worth keeping. Curious about the Reggie Jackson rumors. I'm intrigued but not sold. Also, think EP would flourish under SVG. Although, I thought he would flourish under Skiles too...
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1057 » by npiper17 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:06 pm

To be fair to Vuc he's been our best big defender this year.
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1058 » by EasternMagic » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:06 pm

Everyone keeps mentioning the team chemistry being an issue with Serge. No one is outright saying the team didn't get along, but did anyone else notice that Ibaka always seemed to be shaking his head out there? It never really seemed like he enjoyed his teammates or vice versa. Understandable for sure. Not throwing shade on Serge for hating being on a crappy team.
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1059 » by OrlandoDream » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:14 pm

EasternMagic wrote:Everyone keeps mentioning the team chemistry being an issue with Serge. No one is outright saying the team didn't get along, but did anyone else notice that Ibaka always seemed to be shaking his head out there? It never really seemed like he enjoyed his teammates or vice versa. Understandable for sure. Not throwing shade on Serge for hating being on a crappy team.

It comes down to leadership.....we don't have one. This team is in dire need of a captain, a voice, someone to get in the guys face and call them out when they play effortlessly. Vuc and Fournier are our go-to guys as of now but they are not leaders. As long as we keep riding that wave, we will have the same problems. I still hope AG can be that guy but he is just too passive.
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1060 » by Nemesis21 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:18 pm

PrimeShaq wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:Would say, Vucevic and Hezonja for Hield, Ajinca and their 2017 pick work?

Then I would try to see what we could get for Fournier and the TOR/LAC pick?


Have two top 10 picks, push the Lakers out of top 3 and get a 1st from them :D

Sign me up.


I wonder if we could Danny Green, Kyle Anderson and Dwayne Dedmon for Fournier and TOR/LAC pick?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=h2qy9ma


Draft Josh Jackson and Lauri Markkanen with the two top 10 picks.

EP/DJ/Watson
Ross/Hield/Meeks
Jackson/D Green/Anderson
AG/Markkanen/Dedmon
Biz/Ajinca/Zimm

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