Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Pt V, Mods Close)

Post #1061 » by **Bensational** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:11 am

MagicStarwipe wrote:Otis and Dwight get along fine. Dwight's problem is Otis ignoring his opinions on who he would like on the team.

yeah, and honestly, given some of the guys Otis has brought in, can you blame him?

imagine if last year we'd swapped VC + Anderson/Gortat for GWallace + SJax

Dwight/Gortat
Lewis/Bass
Wallace
SJax
Nelson

get some gritty defense and a legit scorer... but nah, we got Hedo and JRich. (for the record, i was quite filled with hope when Hedo first came back and played out of his mind good).

WeAreVenom · Post #1062 » by **WeAreVenom** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:12 am

NickAnderson wrote:It's funny all this "Otis and I never had a good relationship" crap is coming out now. In other words, "I want out" he is getting pretty pathetic blaming everyone but himself

He didn't say that the were never cool.

As a matter of fact, he said that they used to be, but they aren't now. I don't believe him when he says he doesn't know why, he knows, he just doesn't want to say.

Also, what is Rudolph talking about with the "Male Groupie" comment?

ADRajX · Post #1063 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:12 am

NYDNInterNets Stefan Bondy
Deron Williams: "David Stern is a bully. ..He knows he's a bully. Every CEO of a big company is a bully. That's how they got successful."

NYDNInterNets Stefan Bondy
Deron Williams was asked about the CP3 trade that was nixed, called it a messed up situation.

NYDNInterNets Stefan Bondy
"David Stern is a bully. You can't really go up against him." - Williams

HstryInTheMakng · Post #1064 » by **HstryInTheMakng** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:12 am

eyriq wrote:Otis should be fired based on merit alone. The fact that he has also alienated our best player is why the rest of upper management should be cleaned out.

+10,000

ADRajX · Post #1065 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:14 am

Nyce_1 wrote:
MagicMan89 wrote:Dwight is just deflecting blame to the FO for his leaving. We never heard of this relationship before, we did however hear that he wanted to hit the big city to pursue other interests. We cannot fire OTIS/SVG and everyone else just for Dwight. Orlando would be a horrible orginization. Let me ask you how was Jordans relationship with Jerry, or Kobe's with Mitch. Was Dirk happy when Nash was sent away. GMs run the team, players focus on playing. Dwight is trying to save face, he does not want to be Lebron 2.0.
I'd normally agree, but Otis really sucks! We need ANY reason to get him fired. If this was any other competent GM, we'd all be telling Dwight to STFU and play.

HstryInTheMakng wrote:
eyriq wrote:Otis should be fired based on merit alone. The fact that he has also alienated our best player is why the rest of upper management should be cleaned out.

+10,000

arsenal6106 · Post #1066 » by **arsenal6106** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:15 am

DJRajX wrote:
NYDNInterNets Stefan Bondy
Deron Williams: "David Stern is a bully. ..He knows he's a bully. Every CEO of a big company is a bully. That's how they got successful."

NYDNInterNets Stefan Bondy
Deron Williams was asked about the CP3 trade that was nixed, called it a messed up situation.

NYDNInterNets Stefan Bondy
"David Stern is a bully. You can't really go up against him." - Williams

That's game over for the Nets.

Mannchild · Post #1067 » by **Mannchild** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:15 am

So do we really not have the assets to get Sjax? i mean JJ and Anderson with a pick should get him here, no?

MagicMan89 · Post #1068 » by **MagicMan89** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:16 am

thelead wrote:
MagicMan89 wrote:We cannot fire OTIS/SVG and everyone else just for Dwight.

Otis should be fired for his performance or lack therof.

Maybe, but now you have to stick with Otis. Good organizations dont let the players run them.

Jordan hated Krause
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2000 ... ship-teams
Kobe has fueded with the Lakers
Shaq has bashed Riley

Dwight is trying to ease the reaction of his exit. If Otis must leave, we have to resolve this situation first then make the move. You dont want to set the precedent of siding with the star and doing whatever they want.

The-Dawson · Post #1069 » by **The-Dawson** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:18 am

All i know is if Otis doesnt make a trade its on him but if he does and Dwight still leaves then Dwight needs to be hated

arsenal6106 · Post #1070 » by **arsenal6106** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:19 am

Why is it taking so long to sign Earl?

WeAreVenom · Post #1071 » by **WeAreVenom** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:22 am

MagicMan89 wrote:
thelead wrote:
MagicMan89 wrote:We cannot fire OTIS/SVG and everyone else just for Dwight.

Otis should be fired for his performance or lack therof.

Maybe, but now you have to stick with Otis. Good organizations dont let the players run them.

Jordan hated Krause
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2000 ... ship-teams
Kobe has fueded with the Lakers
Shaq has bashed Riley

Dwight is trying to ease the reaction of his exit. If Otis must leave, we have to resolve this situation first then make the move. You dont want to set the precedent of siding with the star and doing whatever they want.

Krause was a prick (and Jordan and Pippen still hate him to this day), but he delivered.

Riley delivered, and when things between him and Shaq came to a head, Shaq was traded (we don't want this scenario).

Kobe feuded with the Lakers, until they delivered. Big.

MagicStarwipe · Post #1072 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:23 am

You can't get rid of Otis now. Too much movement going on and would put us behind the 8ball. Maybe Otis should make the moves Dwight wants regardless of how he feels about it and then step down from his position as GM. Management would have to give that the go ahead though. Or maybe Otis should just wise up a little and stop liking this team so much.

magic04life · Post #1073 » by **magic04life** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:24 am

DJRajX wrote:
MisterRudolph Jarrod N Rudolph
LOL, so now I'm a male groupie. I've been called worst by better. Dudes crying b/c 12 asks out, but I'm the groupie. Okay then.

Why did Rudolph say this? What does it mean?

Can someone fill me in, this one went over my head haha.

Magic#1 · Post #1074 » by **Magic#1** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:25 am

From what you guys are saying, it's time to kick Otis to the curb. The guy is seriously prideful and probably arrogant.

MagicStarwipe · Post #1075 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:25 am

arsenal6106 wrote:Why is it taking so long to sign Earl?

Dwight must want us to sign him.

Driguez · Post #1076 » by **Driguez** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:26 am

Otis needs to speak up, he's being far too quiet in all of this mess.

PeePee la Fritz · Post #1077 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:26 am

Someone compared Otis to Isaiah Thomas. I gotta say Thomas barely beats out Otis as the better GM.....both can hand out horrible contracts like champs, but at least Thomas could draft.

But honestly people are we really arguing wether or not Otis should keep his Job?!?!?!?!?! The dude deserved to be fired a couple years ago. What good move has he made as GM? He was gifted a team with capspace, D12, and Nelson. HE TRIED TO HIRE BILLY DONOVAN FOR F*** SAKE.....SVG WAS A PANIC SAVE FACE MOVE

arsenal6106 · Post #1078 » by **arsenal6106** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:27 am

MagicStarwipe wrote:
arsenal6106 wrote:Why is it taking so long to sign Earl?

Dwight must want us to sign him.

Nyce_1 · Post #1079 » by **Nyce_1** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:27 am

arsenal6106 wrote:Why is it taking so long to sign Earl?

patience. I'm sure he'll be back but we gotta handle the big stuff first. we don't have bird rights so he'll take up our MLE.

magicman123 · Post #1080 » by **magicman123** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:28 am

Driguez wrote:Otis needs to speak up, he's being far too quiet in all of this mess.

honestly whats otis gonna say? i like this team? that's about all we get