Magic(36-25) @ Celtics(36-26)

[The Real Dalic]

A key loss for the Magic. A win here would have kept Orlando even with the Hawks. But the way Orlando lost, a firey comeback in the 4th, was very, very good.

Best loss of the season!

That sounds weird.

[Chris1]

A key loss for the Magic. A win here would have kept Orlando even with the Hawks. But the way Orlando lost, a firey comeback in the 4th, was very, very good.

Best loss of the season!

There wouldn't have been a need of a comeback if Dudumbasshon remained "banned from Orlando" or whatever reason he wasn't playing.

[drsd]

A key loss for the Magic. A win here would have kept Orlando even with the Hawks. But the way Orlando lost, a firey comeback in the 4th, was very, very good.

Best loss of the season!

There wouldn't have been a need of a comeback if Dudumbasshon remained "banned from Orlando" or whatever reason he wasn't playing.

In the two runs of 2:45 where Boston went on a 10-2 and a 10-0 run, there is no way they could score that much more in that little time. So whatever (non)defense Ish would have played, at leat the offense might have scored a couple more points.

If the 1st and 3rd quarters ended on 10-4 runs by Boston, Orlando wins this game.

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[G-Heel]

A key loss for the Magic. A win here would have kept Orlando even with the Hawks. But the way Orlando lost, a firey comeback in the 4th, was very, very good.

Best loss of the season!

That has to be the reason why Duhon is still playing, Stan can't be this dumb.

[thelead]

stop being brainwashed by the Stan propaganda. He has been sending so many subtle shots at Dwight all year, its crazy.

what is stan's propaganda?

He's taking very subtle shots at Dwight lately. Saying things along the lines of "how unselfish we've been playing" or "no one is worrying about their stats".

[BadMofoPimp]

I think when a team plays like a team and moves the ball, everyone is not worrying about their stats. Stan could be saying that about everyone including JRich, Meer, BBD and Ryno. Just going out and playing ball.

[Last Guardian]

stop being brainwashed by the Stan propaganda. He has been sending so many subtle shots at Dwight all year, its crazy.

what is stan's propaganda?

He's taking very subtle shots at Dwight lately. Saying things along the lines of "how unselfish we've been playing" or "no one is worrying about their stats".

Or maybe he is saying that because they've been unselfish and not worrying about their stats.

[thelead]

That winning streak before the allstar game when we beat GREAT teams was WITH Dwight. Some of you are becoming delusional if you think we're playing better because Dwight is out. BTW we're 3-5 without Dwight. We're doing soooooo well without him.

[BadMofoPimp]

That winning streak before the allstar game when we beat GREAT teams was WITH Dwight. Some of you are becoming delusional if you think we're playing better because Dwight is out. BTW we're 3-5 without Dwight. We're doing soooooo well without him.

We are not playing great without Dwight, but the team is still competitive. And, that is a positive sign that this team didn't fall apart when Dwight is out.

[mhectorgato]

That winning streak before the allstar game when we beat GREAT teams was WITH Dwight. Some of you are becoming delusional if you think we're playing better because Dwight is out. BTW we're 3-5 without Dwight. We're doing soooooo well without him.

It's different, not necessarily better. That's what people are enjoying.

If we can move the ball this much when (if) D12 returns this season, then we'll be in a good place for the playoffs.

[mhi]

This team playing decent ball can be attributed to Stan's coaching, his great at getting the most out of a group but I do agree with the lead. If you read between the lines, he has been taking subtle shots at Dwight in his post game conferences.

[thelead]

That winning streak before the allstar game when we beat GREAT teams was WITH Dwight. Some of you are becoming delusional if you think we're playing better because Dwight is out. BTW we're 3-5 without Dwight. We're doing soooooo well without him.

It's different, not necessarily better. That's what people are enjoying.

If we can move the ball this much when (if) D12 returns this season, then we'll be in a good place for the playoffs.

I agree but why doesn't Stan dictate that we play this way all the time? All I ever see him call when Dwight is on the floor is "thumb down, spread the floor".

[mhectorgato]

That winning streak before the allstar game when we beat GREAT teams was WITH Dwight. Some of you are becoming delusional if you think we're playing better because Dwight is out. BTW we're 3-5 without Dwight. We're doing soooooo well without him.

It's different, not necessarily better. That's what people are enjoying.

If we can move the ball this much when (if) D12 returns this season, then we'll be in a good place for the playoffs.

I agree but why doesn't Stan dictate that we play this way all the time? All I ever see him call when Dwight is on the floor is "thumb down, spread the floor".

Does SVG dictate that way of playing because he thinks it's the best utilization of D12's talents?

How would D12 react if he didn't get nearly as many touches?

[Hon-essim]

It's not the touches that are the problem, it's that in order for Dwight to gain the confidence to develop into becoming the post player he is...the way he plays has to be the way he plays but Dwight isn't a naturally gifted passer off the post nor is playing him any other way less predictable since it allows the defense to close in on the shooters unless Duhon and Hedo figure out their prime games (even just mentally) then those two can help Dwight develop in an island and still allow the team to move the ball better.

[thelead]

I agree but why doesn't Stan dictate that we play this way all the time? All I ever see him call when Dwight is on the floor is "thumb down, spread the floor".

Does SVG dictate that way of playing because he thinks it's the best utilization of D12's talents?

How would D12 react if he didn't get nearly as many touches?

Stan should not complain if he is the one force feeding Dwight. If the coach feels Dwight shouldn't get the ball then don't call the plays for him. Stan is complaining about what he himself is doing.

How would Dwight react? Why does it matter, it's not like they're getting along anyways.

[Hon-essim]

Except for the fact that Stan "complaining" is in itself a made up story. Stan comments, Stan says something. Complaining would be doing most of the work to alienate Dwight, instead Dwight does most of the work to alienate Stan.

Also what hypocritical world is this where Stan (who's not complaining) gets accused of complaining for making a statement when interviewed where as Dwight's reaction (who actually complains about Stan even when he isn't being interviewed) does not matter "cause they don't get along anyways".

Hint: If Stan does not force feed Dwight or force feed any star, his job is more on the line just like the hate he's getting for playing certain players and not playing certain players.

Dwight's reaction on the other hand defines how he will act on the court and I don't care what coach you are, you can't play championship basketball if one of your five players on the court doesn't react well even if he's not a superstar.

thelead you're normally above this. At least have the decency to address the post made to you or just ignore it. Avoiding the topic to re-direct the conversation is for politicians/PR worshipping posters who wants to be pampered.

[craig01]

Nice effort last night.

Duhon kills me......

[thelead]

Except for the fact that Stan "complaining" is in itself a made up story. Stan comments, Stan says something. Complaining would be doing most of the work to alienate Dwight, instead Dwight does most of the work to alienate Stan.

Also what hypocritical world is this where Stan (who's not complaining) gets accused of complaining for making a statement when interviewed where as Dwight's reaction (who actually complains about Stan even when he isn't being interviewed) does not matter "cause they don't get along anyways".

Hint: If Stan does not force feed Dwight or force feed any star, his job is more on the line just like the hate he's getting for playing certain players and not playing certain players.

Dwight's reaction on the other hand defines how he will act on the court and I don't care what coach you are, you can't play championship basketball if one of your five players on the court doesn't react well even if he's not a superstar.

thelead you're normally above this. At least have the decency to address the post made to you or just ignore it. Avoiding the topic to re-direct the conversation is for politicians/PR worshipping posters who wants to be pampered.

Here is where I stand on this whole thing:

1) Dwight needs to grow up.
2) Otis should have kept his mouth shut to begin the season.
3) Stan is a hot head who is way too smart to not know what he was doing with his comments.
4) Stan continues to coach a style of basketball that I don't think can win it all. I don't care for 30 3's a game, especially when it's not in the flow of the offense.
5) most importantly, I hold the bosses to a higher standard than the players. Otis and Stan should know better and should have the self control not to instigate and inflame the situation. I expect a 50 year old to act more maturely than a 26 year old. I'm not excusing Dwight but our management shouldnt look as bad as Dwight has. And to me, they come out looking worse. This is the main reason I side with Dwight. Not because I fully agree with Dwight but because I completely disagree with how Otis and Stan, the boses/managers, have dealt with this situation.

[Hon-essim]

...and I respect you when you're taking a stance even if I have some disagreements with it that's why I wrote what I wrote.

"Why does it matter" is not a stance (much less a valid reply). Let the others do that. You have the ability to consistently come up with posts like this.

Sometimes posters just want to hear other posters say Dwight needs to grow up. Maybe even Dwight needs to hear that. Maybe not. It's better than a pretend reply of "it doesn't matter".