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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1061 » by magicman123 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:02 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:We're not getting rid of Hedo according to Berg, ugh is there anything else we're getting?


2 2nd round picks, more like a kick in the balls
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1062 » by The-Dawson » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:02 am

i still dont believe this can be true no one can be that stupid JUST let him walk over this
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1063 » by thelead » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:02 am

Wait, so Harrington is owed at least $3.5 mil for 13-14 AND 14-15.... This deal gets worse and worse.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1064 » by pogiro » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:02 am

Some of you truly are a bunch of pansies. One way or another, the rebuild is going to take time if it's done properly. Anyone who thought otherwise simply got their hopes up too high. I'm not all that happy about this trade but the whiners with all the negative spins on the situation need to relax.

Yes, Philly and Denver improved more than we did. But you know what, I'd bet that we get to the Finals before them because they'll run with their teams and try to improve on em before they realize they're teams aren't going anywhere. At least we're rebuilding now. We're going to have flexibility for once and I'd like to see what Hennigan does with it before judging.

The focus is on the draft and player development. Who knows how it's going to turn out? But at least the stench that's been polluting the Magic organization for the past two years will be gone. Bash the organization and decision makers all you want. The Magic have gone through this before and have made it back to relevance enough to earn my loyalty. And when the Magic return to relevance like I think they will, you guys will be cheering just the same.

This was always going to suck. But I'm certainly more comfortable with this deal than Brooklyn's deal.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1065 » by dknasty1 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:02 am

magicman123 wrote:
dknasty1 wrote:Trade the best player, get the worst players.

The Rob Hennigan Way.


in henny we trust, look at his track record, hes a winner

He has no track record. His boss has a track record. His track record is:

Sign Jameer to extension

Trade Ryno for bag of chips

Trade Dwight for 2 bags of chips
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Post#1066 » by Cigamodnalro » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:03 am

Ayon and Eyenga. Aye caramba!
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Post#1067 » by Hotshot Hower » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:03 am

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mattyBoi wrote:Every analyst has come one and tried to give a positive spin to Magic fans specifically and can't come up with anything LOL



Thats because no one has perspective. For example, we dont want Bynum because we are doing a full on rebuild which is the right thing to do. But in this twitter era everyone wants changes imediately and in the situation we are in we would be stuck being mediocre with large contracts, no capspace and no draft picks. When we traded Tmac and got back 3 veterans (Francis, Mobley, Cato) that did not turn out very well did it? We did not make the playoffs with those guys, we did not have capspace and our draft position sucked. So if we do the deals that ESPN says we should have done then that would be our destiny- being mediocre.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1068 » by Bensational » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:04 am

rcklsscognition wrote:Ok, someone do us a favor and spin this in a positive way for Orlando. I have a feeling my emotions are getting the best of me and I can't see the positives.


Positives:

- Afflalo is good value for the contract he's locked into. We might not have to look for a SG for the future, unless a cant miss option shows up in the draft.

- Harkless, like any reasonable rookie, is full of potential. If Hennigan is high on him then I trust that he's got significant promise.

- Late 1st round picks can be used to move up in the draft. It might not be another lottery pick, but it might get us a late lottery or mid 1st. If we compete as a team, then having that extra piece could mean the difference between us picking 8th or 4th.

- No reason for our young guys not to get PT and exposure.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1069 » by magicman123 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:04 am

eyenga, ayon, davis, nicholson, hedo, harkless, harrington, vucevic, oquinn, harper

somethings gotta give
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Post#1070 » by silent1900 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:05 am

pogiro wrote:Some of you truly are a bunch of pansies. One way or another, the rebuild is going to take time if it's done properly. Anyone who thought otherwise simply got their hopes up too high. I'm not all that happy about this trade but the whiners with all the negative spins on the situation need to relax.

Yes, Philly and Denver improved more than we did. But you know what, I'd bet that we get to the Finals before them because they'll run with their teams and try to improve on em before they realize they're teams aren't going anywhere. At least we're rebuilding now. We're going to have flexibility for once and I'd like to see what Hennigan does with it before judging.

The focus is on the draft and player development. Who knows how it's going to turn out? But at least the stench that's been polluting the Magic organization for the past two years will be gone. Bash the organization and decision makers all you want. The Magic have gone through this before and have made it back to relevance enough to earn my loyalty. And when the Magic return to relevance like I think they will, you guys will be cheering just the same.

This was always going to suck. But I'm certainly more comfortable with this deal than Brooklyn's deal.



All of us knew this was going to suck. BUT...we expected to have something to be excited about at the end of it other than just our own hard-earned lotto picks that we would have gotten anyway.

There is nothing exciting about this roster as constructed, outside of maybe Harkless, that we wouldn't have had without this aggravated assault disguised as a trade.
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Post#1071 » by dknasty1 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:06 am

Set to win 8 or 9 games?
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Post#1072 » by TDJacksonville » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:06 am

magicman123 wrote:eyenga, ayon, davis, nicholson, hedo, harkless, harrington, vucevic, oquinn, harper

somethings gotta give
i smell some more trades coming trading some forwards :lol:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1073 » by OrlandoMagic » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:06 am

I actually done mind Harrington it's Ayon and Eyenga I don't like
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1074 » by OrlChamps2030 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:06 am

OrlandoMagic wrote:
Zmill wrote:What would you guys think of the NBA having a hardcap of somewhere between 80-100 mill and removing max contracts?



Hard cap should be 60million not a penny more


You really think a hardcap of 60 mill without max contracts is a good idea? Think about it for a second
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Post#1075 » by Calcasian » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:07 am

Hotshot Hower wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:
mattyBoi wrote:Every analyst has come one and tried to give a positive spin to Magic fans specifically and can't come up with anything LOL



Thats because no one has perspective. For example, we dont want Bynum because we are doing a full on rebuild which is the right thing to do. But in this twitter era everyone wants changes imediately and in the situation we are in we would be stuck being mediocre with large contracts, no capspace and no draft picks. When we traded Tmac and got back 3 veterans (Francis, Mobley, Cato) that did not turn out very well did it? We did not make the playoffs with those guys, we did not have capspace and our draft position sucked. So if we do the deals that ESPN says we should have done then that would be our destiny- being mediocre.


After all these "snap" judgements, FINALLY a voice of reason.


Exactly, no one had any idea what other deals were out there besides the Nets deal. This is certainly better then getting Lopez on a max deal. We get rid of some bad contracts and we get a couple serviceable players. Afflalo and Harrington aren't on bad deals, especially with Harington's partially guaranteed. Everyone is being completely shortsighted, relax and embrace the fact we are going to tank.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1076 » by Noonskadoodle » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:07 am

When I seen this text leaving the bball gym I was in absolute shock:

ESPN SportsCenter - Dwight Howard to Lakers, Andrew Bynum to 76ers, Andre Iguodala to Nuggets 4-team deal - ESPN sources

Just seems like a misprint right?

Lol :(
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Post#1077 » by thelead » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:07 am

magicman123 wrote:eyenga, ayon, davis, nicholson, hedo, harkless, harrington, vucevic, oquinn, harper

somethings gotta give


Nope, we're just a joke. I would be much more excited if Wiggins was in this years draft.
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Post#1078 » by TDJacksonville » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:07 am

if thats nets offer was wat it is reported as if we could have gotten the nets to put lopez and humphries on 2 year deals and flip Lopez and humphries to Rockets for X players and picks
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1079 » by Chet Wagner » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:07 am

I cannot believe the Afflalo hate

Going into this he was one of the most underrated guys in the league on a fantastic contract (Jameer is making more money than him..let that sink in) and people are treating him like a worthless scrub

He's not a future #1 bonafide superstar guy but come on, be mad at the Magic for not wanting to deal with Bynum. Doesn't be upset at Afflalo or take the hate out on him.

Bynum was obviously on the table and the FO didn't want anything to do with him, that's not the fault of any other team but ours
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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition) 

Post#1080 » by Tayswagzzz » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:08 am

What are the differences between a protected and non protected pick? I saw someone say our plan is to be really bad this season and the goal is to get 3 Top 5 picks next draft OKC style. Is this possible? Just need some clarification.
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