BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 1st Round Picks + 1 1st Round Pick Swap)

[Bensational]

Paolo - Tatum
Franz - Brown
Bane - White
Suggs - JRue

We’re in a strong position to recreate Boston’s blueprint. Just need to split the difference better in the following -

Isaac - KP
(?) - Pritchard
WCJ - Horford
Goga - Kornet
Houstan - Hauser
AB - (?)
MoWag - (?)

[Tarheel]

I would like them to see if they can get a backup PG that can be more traditional so we can maintain flexibility.

I agree. Tyus Jones, come on down.

Tyus size and defense are question marks. He signed with Suns based on starting and playing time. Vets who still have value. They want guaranteed playing time. He ain’t starting here and I believe AB is going to get a ton of minutes to continue to develop.

I’m pro Tyus but we just got rid of our short boys.

If he wants to start then it's a non-starter, but he's the perfect backup traditional PG to me and he's (I believe) a UFA. Shoots the ball well, doesn't turn it over, gets guys in sets.

He's defensively weak, but you can hide that a bit with the guys we have around him.

[VFX]

Paolo - Tatum
Franz - Brown
Bane - White
Suggs - JRue

We’re in a strong position to recreate Boston’s blueprint. Just need to split the difference better in the following -

Isaac - KP
(?) - Pritchard
WCJ - Horford
Goga - Kornet
Houstan - Hauser
AB - (?)
MoWag - (?)

This comparison will never die. I get it because it’s the most obvious correlation we have, but it’s just not accurate in terms of reality or how the game is played.

Jrue Holiday is an actual playmaking point guard. Hes averaged 6.5-8 assists his entire career as one. His picture would pop up in a dictionary if you searched “point guard”, but Chris Paul’s photo is already there. Suggs is just a younger Derrick White clone. Bane is the same thing with a different physical profile but more on the offense side. Those guys are nowhere close to having a track record or ability as playmakers on Jrue Holidays level.

The other massive difference here is Tatum and Paolo. They aren’t remotely the same player. Tatum plays out - in and Paolo play in - in. Since 2020 Tatum has taken 7-10 3pa per game on high efficiency. Paolo averages 4.5 for his career. Just a chasm of a gap in how those two guys score and how an entire offense is run from their tendencies. It’s just fairly obvious when watching either of these teams too.

Those two distinctions are huge and why comparing those blueprints is foolish. But sure, Orlando needs a scoring punch playmaking guard like Pritchard off the bench.

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I agree. Tyus Jones, come on down.

Tyus size and defense are question marks. He signed with Suns based on starting and playing time. Vets who still have value. They want guaranteed playing time. He ain’t starting here and I believe AB is going to get a ton of minutes to continue to develop.

I’m pro Tyus but we just got rid of our short boys.

If he wants to start then it's a non-starter, but he's the perfect backup traditional PG to me and he's (I believe) a UFA. Shoots the ball well, doesn't turn it over, gets guys in sets.

He's defensively weak, but you can hide that a bit with the guys we have around him.

I like him a lot too...but I think, looking at our bench mob, we need some more scoring from that spot. AB, Isaac, Goga, TdS, are all nice players - but we could really use a significant scoring threat next to AB. Moe will help when he returns to form (if he's here) but not enough. There will certainly be staggered lineups and, quite possibly, Suggs may spend significant minutes leading the second unit with a green light. Franz, as always, will too.

But, could Clayton be the (hopefully) better Cole Anthony in that role?
I'm locked in on Ryan Nembhard in the second round - sounds really high-floor, even as a small guy...give me that BBIQ to solve things all day
I think Jase Richardson has higher upside, but likely isn't available and likely isn't as ready to contribute as quickly
Monk, due to salary, is likely out of reach but just the kind of guy...Terrence Ross mentality with more ballhandling/playmaking
Still intrigued with D'Lo...I know there are concerns, but that's the only reason a guy with his skills might be gettable and fittable
Ty Jerome would do very well, and he'd have AB and Isaac to protect him on the other end.
I DO like a real PG, if possible, for those times when opponents, at least temporarily, find a way to slow down our 4 "kind of PGs" and bog us down.
Someone really has to "captain" that second unit...our bench was fantastic with Jingles setting the vibe and the same guys sucked last year.

It really shouldn't be that hard to find "enough of a Pritchard" somewhere out there...there are many more humans under 6'5 competing for those spots, so you just think there should be more guys to choose from

[RichCollab]

Tyus size and defense are question marks. He signed with Suns based on starting and playing time. Vets who still have value. They want guaranteed playing time. He ain’t starting here and I believe AB is going to get a ton of minutes to continue to develop.

I’m pro Tyus but we just got rid of our short boys.

If he wants to start then it's a non-starter, but he's the perfect backup traditional PG to me and he's (I believe) a UFA. Shoots the ball well, doesn't turn it over, gets guys in sets.

He's defensively weak, but you can hide that a bit with the guys we have around him.

I like him a lot too...but I think, looking at our bench mob, we need some more scoring from that spot. AB, Isaac, Goga, TdS, are all nice players - but we could really use a significant scoring threat next to AB. Moe will help when he returns to form (if he's here) but not enough. There will certainly be staggered lineups and, quite possibly, Suggs may spend significant minutes leading the second unit with a green light. Franz, as always, will too.

But, could Clayton be the (hopefully) better Cole Anthony in that role?
I'm locked in on Ryan Nembhard in the second round - sounds really high-floor, even as a small guy...give me that BBIQ to solve things all day
I think Jase Richardson has higher upside, but likely isn't available and likely isn't as ready to contribute as quickly
Monk, due to salary, is likely out of reach but just the kind of guy...Terrence Ross mentality with more ballhandling/playmaking
Still intrigued with D'Lo...I know there are concerns, but that's the only reason a guy with his skills might be gettable and fittable
Ty Jerome would do very well, and he'd have AB and Isaac to protect him on the other end.
I DO like a real PG, if possible, for those times when opponents, at least temporarily, find a way to slow down our 4 "kind of PGs" and bog us down.
Someone really has to "captain" that second unit...our bench was fantastic with Jingles setting the vibe and the same guys sucked last year.

It really shouldn't be that hard to find "enough of a Pritchard" somewhere out there...there are many more humans under 6'5 competing for those spots, so you just think there should be more guys to choose from

100% we need that scoring punch off the bench. I don’t want to depend on a rookie for that. D’Lo isn’t it for me.

[fendilim]

Paolo - Tatum
Franz - Brown
Bane - White
Suggs - JRue

We’re in a strong position to recreate Boston’s blueprint. Just need to split the difference better in the following -

Isaac - KP
(?) - Pritchard
WCJ - Horford
Goga - Kornet
Houstan - Hauser
AB - (?)
MoWag - (?)

MoWagner - kornet
Isaac - kp

[fendilim]

If he wants to start then it's a non-starter, but he's the perfect backup traditional PG to me and he's (I believe) a UFA. Shoots the ball well, doesn't turn it over, gets guys in sets.

He's defensively weak, but you can hide that a bit with the guys we have around him.

I like him a lot too...but I think, looking at our bench mob, we need some more scoring from that spot. AB, Isaac, Goga, TdS, are all nice players - but we could really use a significant scoring threat next to AB. Moe will help when he returns to form (if he's here) but not enough. There will certainly be staggered lineups and, quite possibly, Suggs may spend significant minutes leading the second unit with a green light. Franz, as always, will too.

But, could Clayton be the (hopefully) better Cole Anthony in that role?
I'm locked in on Ryan Nembhard in the second round - sounds really high-floor, even as a small guy...give me that BBIQ to solve things all day
I think Jase Richardson has higher upside, but likely isn't available and likely isn't as ready to contribute as quickly
Monk, due to salary, is likely out of reach but just the kind of guy...Terrence Ross mentality with more ballhandling/playmaking
Still intrigued with D'Lo...I know there are concerns, but that's the only reason a guy with his skills might be gettable and fittable
Ty Jerome would do very well, and he'd have AB and Isaac to protect him on the other end.
I DO like a real PG, if possible, for those times when opponents, at least temporarily, find a way to slow down our 4 "kind of PGs" and bog us down.
Someone really has to "captain" that second unit...our bench was fantastic with Jingles setting the vibe and the same guys sucked last year.

It really shouldn't be that hard to find "enough of a Pritchard" somewhere out there...there are many more humans under 6'5 competing for those spots, so you just think there should be more guys to choose from

100% we need that scoring punch off the bench. I don’t want to depend on a rookie for that. D’Lo isn’t it for me.

I agree. DLo is subtraction by addition

[Skybox]

I like him a lot too...but I think, looking at our bench mob, we need some more scoring from that spot. AB, Isaac, Goga, TdS, are all nice players - but we could really use a significant scoring threat next to AB. Moe will help when he returns to form (if he's here) but not enough. There will certainly be staggered lineups and, quite possibly, Suggs may spend significant minutes leading the second unit with a green light. Franz, as always, will too.

But, could Clayton be the (hopefully) better Cole Anthony in that role?
I'm locked in on Ryan Nembhard in the second round - sounds really high-floor, even as a small guy...give me that BBIQ to solve things all day
I think Jase Richardson has higher upside, but likely isn't available and likely isn't as ready to contribute as quickly
Monk, due to salary, is likely out of reach but just the kind of guy...Terrence Ross mentality with more ballhandling/playmaking
Still intrigued with D'Lo...I know there are concerns, but that's the only reason a guy with his skills might be gettable and fittable
Ty Jerome would do very well, and he'd have AB and Isaac to protect him on the other end.
I DO like a real PG, if possible, for those times when opponents, at least temporarily, find a way to slow down our 4 "kind of PGs" and bog us down.
Someone really has to "captain" that second unit...our bench was fantastic with Jingles setting the vibe and the same guys sucked last year.

It really shouldn't be that hard to find "enough of a Pritchard" somewhere out there...there are many more humans under 6'5 competing for those spots, so you just think there should be more guys to choose from

100% we need that scoring punch off the bench. I don’t want to depend on a rookie for that. D’Lo isn’t it for me.

I agree. DLo is subtraction by addition

pretty easy to pick out the problems...name some solutions

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It's been clear from day 1. Screw all those advance stats. The kid isna stud and should have been showcased way more then he has been.

[tiderulz]

Paolo - Tatum
Franz - Brown
Bane - White
Suggs - JRue

We’re in a strong position to recreate Boston’s blueprint. Just need to split the difference better in the following -

Isaac - KP
(?) - Pritchard
WCJ - Horford
Goga - Kornet
Houstan - Hauser
AB - (?)
MoWag - (?)

This comparison will never die. I get it because it’s the most obvious correlation we have, but it’s just not accurate in terms of reality or how the game is played.

Jrue Holiday is an actual playmaking point guard. Hes averaged 6.5-8 assists his entire career as one. His picture would pop up in a dictionary if you searched “point guard”, but Chris Paul’s photo is already there. Suggs is just a younger Derrick White clone. Bane is the same thing with a different physical profile but more on the offense side. Those guys are nowhere close to having a track record or ability as playmakers on Jrue Holidays level.

The other massive difference here is Tatum and Paolo. They aren’t remotely the same player. Tatum plays out - in and Paolo play in - in. Since 2020 Tatum has taken 7-10 3pa per game on high efficiency. Paolo averages 4.5 for his career. Just a chasm of a gap in how those two guys score and how an entire offense is run from their tendencies. It’s just fairly obvious when watching either of these teams too.

Those two distinctions are huge and why comparing those blueprints is foolish. But sure, Orlando needs a scoring punch playmaking guard like Pritchard off the bench.

sorry, i havent seen real playmaking from Jrue in a few years. he is a great defensive PG, but isnt a playmaker anymore. you highlight his apg numbers, but they have gone down the past 2 years while playing in Boston. I agree about Suggs being a player similar to White, but only defensively, White much better shooter.

[Skybox]

Paolo - Tatum
Franz - Brown
Bane - White
Suggs - JRue

We’re in a strong position to recreate Boston’s blueprint. Just need to split the difference better in the following -

Isaac - KP
(?) - Pritchard
WCJ - Horford
Goga - Kornet
Houstan - Hauser
AB - (?)
MoWag - (?)

This comparison will never die. I get it because it’s the most obvious correlation we have, but it’s just not accurate in terms of reality or how the game is played.

Jrue Holiday is an actual playmaking point guard. Hes averaged 6.5-8 assists his entire career as one. His picture would pop up in a dictionary if you searched “point guard”, but Chris Paul’s photo is already there. Suggs is just a younger Derrick White clone. Bane is the same thing with a different physical profile but more on the offense side. Those guys are nowhere close to having a track record or ability as playmakers on Jrue Holidays level.

The other massive difference here is Tatum and Paolo. They aren’t remotely the same player. Tatum plays out - in and Paolo play in - in. Since 2020 Tatum has taken 7-10 3pa per game on high efficiency. Paolo averages 4.5 for his career. Just a chasm of a gap in how those two guys score and how an entire offense is run from their tendencies. It’s just fairly obvious when watching either of these teams too.

Those two distinctions are huge and why comparing those blueprints is foolish. But sure, Orlando needs a scoring punch playmaking guard like Pritchard off the bench.

I really like the KP-Isaac comparison the best

both are tall and skinny...that's about it

[VFX]

Paolo - Tatum
Franz - Brown
Bane - White
Suggs - JRue

We’re in a strong position to recreate Boston’s blueprint. Just need to split the difference better in the following -

Isaac - KP
(?) - Pritchard
WCJ - Horford
Goga - Kornet
Houstan - Hauser
AB - (?)
MoWag - (?)

This comparison will never die. I get it because it’s the most obvious correlation we have, but it’s just not accurate in terms of reality or how the game is played.

Jrue Holiday is an actual playmaking point guard. Hes averaged 6.5-8 assists his entire career as one. His picture would pop up in a dictionary if you searched “point guard”, but Chris Paul’s photo is already there. Suggs is just a younger Derrick White clone. Bane is the same thing with a different physical profile but more on the offense side. Those guys are nowhere close to having a track record or ability as playmakers on Jrue Holidays level.

The other massive difference here is Tatum and Paolo. They aren’t remotely the same player. Tatum plays out - in and Paolo play in - in. Since 2020 Tatum has taken 7-10 3pa per game on high efficiency. Paolo averages 4.5 for his career. Just a chasm of a gap in how those two guys score and how an entire offense is run from their tendencies. It’s just fairly obvious when watching either of these teams too.

Those two distinctions are huge and why comparing those blueprints is foolish. But sure, Orlando needs a scoring punch playmaking guard like Pritchard off the bench.

sorry, i havent seen real playmaking from Jrue in a few years. he is a great defensive PG, but isnt a playmaker anymore. you highlight his apg numbers, but they have gone down the past 2 years while playing in Boston. I agree about Suggs being a player similar to White, but only defensively, White much better shooter.

True but we know he is actually capable of it. That’s the difference. At no point in Bane or Suggs career did they display that.

Yeah I mean if you want to compare a 30 year old White to a 23 year old Suggs sure. Even a White at 26 is a 3 year difference, when he started making a name for himself. The point is the profile and role they play. Suggs is being compared to Holiday in this blueprint lol.

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It's been clear from day 1. Screw all those advance stats. The kid isna stud and should have been showcased way more then he has been.

Advanced stats have always loved him except for plus minus variants and those get overemphasized. The signal was clear as day right out the gate

[tiderulz]

This comparison will never die. I get it because it’s the most obvious correlation we have, but it’s just not accurate in terms of reality or how the game is played.

Jrue Holiday is an actual playmaking point guard. Hes averaged 6.5-8 assists his entire career as one. His picture would pop up in a dictionary if you searched “point guard”, but Chris Paul’s photo is already there. Suggs is just a younger Derrick White clone. Bane is the same thing with a different physical profile but more on the offense side. Those guys are nowhere close to having a track record or ability as playmakers on Jrue Holidays level.

The other massive difference here is Tatum and Paolo. They aren’t remotely the same player. Tatum plays out - in and Paolo play in - in. Since 2020 Tatum has taken 7-10 3pa per game on high efficiency. Paolo averages 4.5 for his career. Just a chasm of a gap in how those two guys score and how an entire offense is run from their tendencies. It’s just fairly obvious when watching either of these teams too.

Those two distinctions are huge and why comparing those blueprints is foolish. But sure, Orlando needs a scoring punch playmaking guard like Pritchard off the bench.

sorry, i havent seen real playmaking from Jrue in a few years. he is a great defensive PG, but isnt a playmaker anymore. you highlight his apg numbers, but they have gone down the past 2 years while playing in Boston. I agree about Suggs being a player similar to White, but only defensively, White much better shooter.

True but we know he is actually capable of it. That’s the difference. At no point in Bane or Suggs career did they display that.

Yeah I mean if you want to compare a 30 year old White to a 23 year old Suggs sure. Even a White at 26 is a 3 year difference, when he started making a name for himself. The point is the profile and role they play. Suggs is being compared to Holiday in this blueprint lol.

we know he WAS capable of it. he is now 35 and on tail end of his career. but i agree, Suggs should not be compared to Holiday.

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I love what he's saying...but

Is he "somebody" or just some douche who photoshopped/edited in Bill Simmons as if they're colleagues having a conversation.

I really hate this time in history where any jerkoff with a microphone in his Mom's wood-paneled basement can arrogantly come across as some kind of expert. Everyone on RealGM seems to be comfortable with the idea (or should be) that we're just fans talking - don't listen to me for new info. I'd like to go back to the times where I could just hate "legitimate" media experts like Stephen A. for his lazy arrogant takes. or the punter guy who suddenly knows a lot about basketball.

Please tell me if I'm just ignorant about this guy and his place in the media.

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I love what he's saying...but

Is he "somebody" or just some douche who photoshopped/edited in Bill Simmons as if they're colleagues having a conversation.

I really hate this time in history where any jerkoff with a microphone in his Mom's wood-paneled basement can arrogantly come across as some kind of expert. Everyone on RealGM seems to be comfortable with the idea (or should be) that we're just fans talking - don't listen to me for new info. I'd like to go back to the times where I could just hate "legitimate" media experts like Stephen A. for his lazy arrogant takes. or the punter guy who suddenly knows a lot about basketball.

Please tell me if I'm just ignorant about this guy and his place in the media.

If he's good enough for Tony he's good enough for you

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I love what he's saying...but

Is he "somebody" or just some douche who photoshopped/edited in Bill Simmons as if they're colleagues having a conversation.

I really hate this time in history where any jerkoff with a microphone in his Mom's wood-paneled basement can arrogantly come across as some kind of expert. Everyone on RealGM seems to be comfortable with the idea (or should be) that we're just fans talking - don't listen to me for new info. I'd like to go back to the times where I could just hate "legitimate" media experts like Stephen A. for his lazy arrogant takes. or the punter guy who suddenly knows a lot about basketball.

Please tell me if I'm just ignorant about this guy and his place in the media.

If he's good enough for Tony he's good enough for you

Bill Simmons lawsuit incoming...I hope

[RichCollab]

Is Mike Miller why Paolo isn’t a league face yet? Needs to join a big agency?

Jordan brand was a connection through Crawford.

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100% agreed. Been feeling this for more than a year, that Paolo is headed somewhere that way. People will see it if Playoffs Paolo stays for most of the regular season but at least he has it in the right order, be a superstar in the Playoffs, not in the regular season.