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Re: Official: Arenas/Hedo/Jrich takin talents to central FLORIDA 

Post#1081 » by tiderulz » Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:51 pm

Adonis wrote:why couldn't we make a trade for gerald wallace or iggy? why? i'm just not understanding this ****.

we NEED a solid defender. our back court looks like golden state right now.


maybe because Philly + Charlotte werent trading them?

Just because 1 team wants players doesnt mean the other team is going to give them up. Wallace had turned into the face of the Charlotte franchice, who do we have to give them that would do the same thing?
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Post#1082 » by BelgianMagic » Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:54 pm

JRich looks like a great guy, can't wait to see how he does here :D
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Re: Official: Arenas/Hedo/Jrich takin talents to central FLORIDA 

Post#1083 » by BassMaster » Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:57 pm

That mecca of sports information HoopsWorld is staying that Redick will be the next to be traded.

Ah yes if they were a newspaper people would be using their articles to line birdcages as to referring how stupid that site is.
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Post#1084 » by mattyBoi » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:13 pm

Straight up if we are really championship or bust, we are going after a big man. Not just a backup C, but a defensive big to fill in the backup PF spot too when needed. We need someone to bully KG and Pau.

Off the top of my head is Camby but I have no clue how realistic that is. Anyone have any ideas?
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Post#1085 » by mattyBoi » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:15 pm

Also Q is going no where, he is our Lebron "stopper".
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Post#1086 » by craig01 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:20 pm

BassMaster wrote:That mecca of sports information HoopsWorld is staying that Redick will be the next to be traded.

Ah yes if they were a newspaper people would be using their articles to line birdcages as to referring how stupid that site is.


You shouldn't even give them a hit....LOL....that's the best way to get rid of them

I agree that they are bogus.
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Post#1087 » by MickaelPietrus » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:28 pm

mattyBoi wrote:Straight up if we are really championship or bust, we are going after a big man. Not just a backup C, but a defensive big to fill in the backup PF spot too when needed. We need someone to bully KG and Pau.

Off the top of my head is Camby but I have no clue how realistic that is. Anyone have any ideas?


Should`ve gotten Tyson Chandler when we had the chance. Mavs traded ERICK DAMPIER for him. I`m sure Jordan would`ve bitten on Gortat for Chandler.
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Post#1088 » by MickaelPietrus » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:30 pm

mattyBoi wrote:Also Q is going no where, he is our Lebron "stopper".


You know, I get baffled when I hear these so-called Lebron stoppers and Kobe stoppers.

NO, We`ve never stopped any of those guys. We also never stop scrubs like Nate Robinson, Eddie House and Glen Davis.

I rather we do what made us make the finals: Turkoglu on James and Pierce.
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Post#1089 » by mattyBoi » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:32 pm

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mattyBoi wrote:Also Q is going no where, he is our Lebron "stopper".


You know, I get baffled when I hear these so-called Lebron stoppers and Kobe stoppers.

NO, We`ve never stopped any of those guys. We also never stop scrubs like Nate Robinson, Eddie House and Glen Davis.

I rather we do what made us make the finals: Turkoglu on James and Pierce.


I agree we can't stop them, but Q can make it tougher for them, especially Pierce who he HATES. Hedo needed MP in 2009 this year it will be Q.
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Post#1090 » by SolidSnake008 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:33 pm

mattyBoi wrote:Straight up if we are really championship or bust, we are going after a big man. Not just a backup C, but a defensive big to fill in the backup PF spot too when needed. We need someone to bully KG and Pau.

Off the top of my head is Camby but I have no clue how realistic that is. Anyone have any ideas?

i'm right there with you.........as long as we keep Jameer
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Post#1091 » by MickaelPietrus » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:48 pm

Congratulations guys, after these moves by Otis, and BQR BSing us, we now have 9714 threads and 441311 posts.

We now sit at 4th most threads behind Raptors, Bulls and Knicks forums

We sit at 5th most posts, behind Milwaukee, Toronto, Chicago and New York.
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Post#1092 » by mattyBoi » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:50 pm

Yeah Jameer stays no matter what. Man our backcourt is so lethal. Anyways, I'm thinking JJ, Anderson, Clark, Orton, Duhon, JWill, Malik are the trade assets. If JJ+Bass can get you an allstar PF, you do that as well IMO.
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Post#1093 » by davidse » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:52 pm

MickaelPietrus wrote:
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michaelc204 wrote:The only thing separating the Knicks (Isiah years) and the Magic now is Dwight... Hear me out. What will this team do if Dwight leaves as a free agent?


hope he likes the lakers and get bynum for him is about the best the magic can hope for if that happens.


LOLZ Bynum....


Didn`t they offer Bynum for Bosh last midseason? So are you saying Bosh has equal value as Dwight?


are you saying you have any hope of even coming close to bynum's value from any team howard would still agree to sign with after the trade ?

because if you are, you are VERYYYYY very wrong...
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Post#1094 » by MickaelPietrus » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:04 pm

davidse wrote:
are you saying you have any hope of even coming close to bynum's value from any team howard would still agree to sign with after the trade ?

because if you are, you are VERYYYYY very wrong...


I rather try Dallas to give us Tyson Chandler (who`d resign) and some guys.

Bynum can`t rebound and defend for shet.

Gilbert is going to be with us until his contract is done.
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Post#1095 » by davidse » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:05 pm

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6_Rings wrote:great moves. imho u got a bit thin in the PF position. r u guys still dealing?


Local media reports that a small trade might follow. I personally expect Redick to be shipped for a combo big.


Ah I see you have forgotten something called BYC. Redick actually can stop any trade. Remember as with Gortat they can't trade Redick if he is not happy with it.

Personally I expect another player to be traded for a center like the one the Kings are offering. He was a lottery pick who they now rarely use, but he fits the Magic needs really well. All the Kings need is a pg to help them out.

I really don't see the Magic holding on to 4 pgs. That just doesn't make any sense.


you are confusing two very different things.

byc makes it more difficult to trade in terms of ingoing/outgoing salaries, but it's something that can be pretty easily dealt with by nba gm's.

it has nothing to do with a player having controll over where he's traded to.

there are a few circumstances where players' consent is needed for them to be traded, and one of those circumstances is when a player is a restricted free agent, gets an offer sheet and his team matches.
once that happens, the player's consent is needed for any trade in the first year after the offer sheet was matched.

that's why you couldn't trade gortat without his consent, and same with reddick.
but it's a seperate issue from being b.y.c. - even though reddick is b.y.c. by coincidence - this being his first year under contract...

and just fyi - even if reddick gives his consent - you are not allowed to trade him to the team that made the origional contract offer - chicago...
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Post#1096 » by davidse » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:12 pm

MickaelPietrus wrote:
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are you saying you have any hope of even coming close to bynum's value from any team howard would still agree to sign with after the trade ?

because if you are, you are VERYYYYY very wrong...


I rather try Dallas to give us Tyson Chandler (who`d resign) and some guys.

Bynum can`t rebound and defend for shet.

Gilbert is going to be with us until his contract is done.


wow.

well, i hope that you get your wish if that should happen, cause "chandler and some guys" is defenetly what you deserve if you'd take that over bynum.

only team that can come close in value is chicago, and i'm sure orlando would much rather see howard go west.
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Post#1097 » by MickaelPietrus » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:19 pm

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wow.

well, i hope that you get your wish if that should happen, cause "chandler and some guys" is defenetly what you deserve if you'd take that over bynum.

only team that can come close in value is chicago, and i'm sure orlando would much rather see howard go west.


So you really want Bynum`s health conditions rather than guys that can actually help.
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Post#1098 » by cb1115 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:27 pm

Has Vince even commented about the trade yet lol?
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Post#1099 » by davidse » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:31 pm

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wow.

well, i hope that you get your wish if that should happen, cause "chandler and some guys" is defenetly what you deserve if you'd take that over bynum.

only team that can come close in value is chicago, and i'm sure orlando would much rather see howard go west.


So you really want Bynum`s health conditions rather than guys that can actually help.


help ?

help what ? a team that (In this scenario) couldn't win with howard ?
what is it you expect that team to do with chandler ?

you can take the tapped out talent of the 28 year old role playing - not without injury history - chandler - assuming howard even wants to go there in the first place - dirk vs. kobe+gasol ? ok...

i'll take the 23 year old who's ALREADY a top 5 center when healthy - even with all the time he's missed in his young career - and who's team aparently has great confidence in his ability to be fully healthy to the point of risking a great title run by not trading him - not to mention there's still a full year (at least) to evaluate his health...

i'll have pottentialy the 2nd best center in the nba for the next 9 years.
you'll have "help" in chandler...
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Post#1100 » by ADRajX » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:34 pm

a great round up of all the events from yesterday
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports ... g-day.html
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