Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII, Mods Close)

The Real Dalic · Post #1081 » by **The Real Dalic** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 8:42 pm

Last Guardian wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:Did you just compare Ellis to Pargo?!?!?! you having taken the biggest sip of haterade......

Was I insulting Pargo or Ellis?

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rcklsscognition · Post #1082 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 8:42 pm

sChOlaRlY_Magi wrote:Well as cheesy as that was at least it was aimed at keeping him here!

I'll give you that. It takes BS and Bianchi 10 bad articles to force a positive one out there so we should be happy with anything positive.

The Real Dalic · Post #1083 » by **The Real Dalic** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 8:43 pm

sChOlaRlY_Magi wrote:Wow.. I couldn't make it through the whole Dwight one; but I couldn't watch the Cleveland one for longer than 20 seconds!

I watched all of the Dwight one and only around 20 seconds on the Cleveland one myself.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #1084 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 8:44 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:
Last Guardian wrote:
Hater_X wrote:Nobody here isn't saying that sessions isn't good. But once he plays in SVG's system he's gonna look extra regular. Monta is a type of player you run plays for..not with.

Yea, I get Sessions isn't a big name. I expected some backlash. Bottom line, Sessions can run an offense. He will set up Dwight and the shooters. Maybe not as well as a superstar PG would, but he is the best we can do. And it would be the best thing for our offense. If we need some 1-on-1 chucking...can't we find some random chucker in the league that makes terrible shots in bunches? Dear lord maybe we can get Pargo....maybe if he is on the Magic and sees the Magic jerseys all around him, he'll light it up every night.

Did you just compare Ellis to Pargo?!?!?! you having taken the biggest sip of haterade......

It gets to a point when you stop arguing with someone and Im pretty sure you're at that point when when that person says Jannero Pargo the journeyman is as good as Monta Ellis, the superstar of the GSW's. In realgm land you say "yeah ok, Jennero Pargo = Monta Ellis sure...." while in real life you just shake your head. It helps keep you sane trust me. There is nothing in this world except crack mother ******* Cocain that could cause someone to think that JANNERO PARGO = MONTA ELLIS so better to just end the discussion.

ADRajX · Post #1085 » by **ADRajX** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 8:45 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:Rudolph:

"initially Otis wanted Nash but heard some things and decided to go after Ellis"
"Winning changes a lot; Dwight cares about the city and admires Rich and thinks 1 more piece can push us to the top"
"trade request was private and Otis leaked to public"
"if we get Ellis or Nash, Dwight would opt in to play with new piece and get some wins under their belt. Also cause he knows 2013 is a better FA pool and he can team up witH more options"
"Nobody wants Brook Lopez"
"Dwight knows a team that trades for him won't be a better situation because they'd have to gut the team"
"at the end of the day, Dwight wants to stay but management needs to make moves"

I think it was a very good interview. From the way he was talking, Dwight is ours to lose.

That was the most interesting take away for me from that interview. If Dwight can just be patient, he can have his own super team here.

It's about time he realizes this... Dude was crying in interviews right before the season saying, "He doesn't want to wait any longer, and he's tired of being patient". ... Finally he got it through his skull

The Real Dalic · Post #1086 » by **The Real Dalic** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 8:46 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:It gets to a point when you stop arguing with someone and Im pretty sure you're at that point when when that person says Jannero Pargo the journeyman is as good as Monta Ellis, the superstar of the GSW's. In realgm land you say "yeah ok, Jennero Pargo = Monta Ellis sure...." while in real life you just shake your head. It helps keep you sane trust me.

Yeah, you're probably right.

Nyce_1 · Post #1087 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 8:47 pm

Any trade with the Hornets, with Stern still acting as owner, will definitely require us to give up Anderson and future pick. If they're sold soon and get a new owner, we're good.

3-way trade to get Ellis & Ariza here would be God-sent. While I'm still dreaming, what if we get CLee back this off-season?

Ellis
Lee
Ariza
???
Dwight

Call him over-rated but if we lose JJ and/or JRich, Lee would be a good addition.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #1088 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 8:49 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:Any trade with the Hornets, with Stern still acting as owner, will definitely require us to give up Anderson and future pick. If they're sold soon and get a new owner, we're good.

3-way trade to get Ellis & Ariza here would be God-sent. While I'm still dreaming, what if we get CLee back this off-season?

Ellis
Lee
Ariza
???
Dwight

Call him over-rated but if we lose JJ and/or JRich, Lee would be a good addition.

I dont think Lee is overrated, I think he's a decent player and we would need a wing defender if land Ellis

BN · Post #1089 » by BN » Fri Mar 2, 2012 8:49 pm

lol agreed, definitely no chance of us getting help from Stern...

rcklsscognition · Post #1090 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 8:49 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:Any trade with the Hornets, with Stern still acting as owner, will definitely require us to give up Anderson and future pick. If they're sold soon and get a new owner, we're good.

3-way trade to get Ellis & Ariza here would be God-sent. While I'm still dreaming, what if we get CLee back this off-season?

Ellis
Lee
Ariza
???
Dwight

Call him over-rated but if we lose JJ and/or JRich, Lee would be a good addition.

Stern said last weekend they had 1 owner in the final stages of purchasing the Hornets and expected the papers prepared within 7-10 days. That'd be this weekend to mid-next week. There was also another buyer in the running. They really want to sell the team this week so the new owners can make trades.

The Real Dalic · Post #1091 » by **The Real Dalic** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 8:51 pm

DJRajX wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:Rudolph:

"initially Otis wanted Nash but heard some things and decided to go after Ellis"
"Winning changes a lot; Dwight cares about the city and admires Rich and thinks 1 more piece can push us to the top"
"trade request was private and Otis leaked to public"
"if we get Ellis or Nash, Dwight would opt in to play with new piece and get some wins under their belt. Also cause he knows 2013 is a better FA pool and he can team up witH more options"
"Nobody wants Brook Lopez"
"Dwight knows a team that trades for him won't be a better situation because they'd have to gut the team"
"at the end of the day, Dwight wants to stay but management needs to make moves"

I think it was a very good interview. From the way he was talking, Dwight is ours to lose.

That was the most interesting take away for me from that interview. If Dwight can just be patient, he can have his own super team here.

It's about time he realizes this... Dude was crying in interviews right before the season saying, "He doesn't want to wait any longer, and he's tired of being patient". ... Finally he got it through his skull

The best case scenario for us is that we don't make a move, well maybe we should trade BBD and J-Rich for someone that expires in 2 years, even if they suck, and try to convince Dwight to opt-in. then we'd be able to get Iggy, Monta, or Smoove, maybe 2 of those 3. it makes the most sense, but, Dwight needs to be patient, which I doubt. but, you never know.

Last Guardian · Post #1092 » by **Last Guardian** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 8:53 pm

Lol I love getting a rise out of you guys. Already blind homers and he isn't even on the team yet. Hilarious. I was just joking around because Pargo is a complete scrub who looks like a superstar against us.

Anyway, legitimately, I'd compare him to Steve Francis or Stephon Marbury. Who would you compare him to? God? Magic Johnson with a mix of Michael Jordan?

The Real Dalic · Post #1093 » by **The Real Dalic** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 8:54 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:Any trade with the Hornets, with Stern still acting as owner, will definitely require us to give up Anderson and future pick. If they're sold soon and get a new owner, we're good.

3-way trade to get Ellis & Ariza here would be God-sent. While I'm still dreaming, what if we get CLee back this off-season?

Ellis
Lee
Ariza
???
Dwight

Call him over-rated but if we lose JJ and/or JRich, Lee would be a good addition.

The reason Stern blocked the CP3 trade is cause we were fresh off a lockout that mainly revolved around superstars leaving for bigger markets. and the Owners were outraged, so, they told Stern to overturn it, because they didn't want to gift the Lakers another star for trash....

The Real Dalic · Post #1094 » by **The Real Dalic** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 8:54 pm

Last Guardian wrote:Lol I love getting a rise out of you guys. Already blind homers and he isn't even on the team yet. Hilarious. I was just joking around because Pargo is a complete scrub who looks like a superstar against us.

Anyway, legitimately, I'd compare him to Steve Francis or Stephon Marbury. Who would you compare him to? God? Magic Johnson with a mix of Michael Jordan?

LeBron James. :wink:

mhi · Post #1095 » by **mhi** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 8:57 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Stern said last weekend they had 1 owner in the final stages of purchasing the Hornets and expected the papers prepared within 7-10 days. That'd be this weekend to mid-next week. There was also another buyer in the running. They really want to sell the team this week so the new owners can make trades.

No sale is gonna be final before the Hornets finish negotiation their arena lease. This is one of Stern's promises in line with keeping the team in town.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #1096 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 8:59 pm

Last Guardian wrote:Lol I love getting a rise out of you guys. Already blind homers and he isn't even on the team yet. Hilarious. I was just joking around because Pargo is a complete scrub who looks like a superstar against us.

Anyway, legitimately, I'd compare him to Steve Francis or Stephon Marbury. Who would you compare him to? God? Magic Johnson with a mix of Michael Jordan?

Already blind haters and he isn't even on the team yet. Goes both ways.

But I am relived that you were "joking around"
With out being a blind Homer he's more like Allen Iverson imo...With out your Super Big Gulp sized haterade sitting in front of you, you'd compare him to Francis or Marbury? Stevie Franchise is a good comparison maybe not Stephon... for me anyway.

ADRajX · Post #1097 » by **ADRajX** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 9:00 pm

I see Ellis as a mix between a poor man's Westbrook and a younger Gilbert Arenas personally... with obvious differences of course

Nyce_1 · Post #1098 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 9:02 pm

I remember someone spoke to Lee a while back and he said Otis was trying to get him back; and that he wants to return to Orlando. If we trade away a lot of our SG depth, I'd be certain Otis makes a play for him this summer, in free agency. He's a good complement to Ellis.

ADRajX · Post #1099 » by **ADRajX** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 9:05 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:I remember someone spoke to Lee a while back and he said Otis was trying to get him back; and that he wants to return to Orlando. If we trade away a lot of our SG depth, I'd be certain Otis makes a play for him this summer, in free agency. He's a good complement to Ellis.

I actually like Lee... who at one point was an all-star... he puts up borderline all-star numbers... it's just that his contract is utter crap (which would explain why GS would want to move him... him or Biedrins)... he's still only 28 or 29 years old though... does his contract have a team option or anything in it?

I do like Lee's game... ever since I watched him in high-school and then at UF back in the day... but man, that contract :nonono:

The Real Dalic · Post #1100 » by **The Real Dalic** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 9:06 pm

So am I the only one that sees LeBron James than? seriously though, I see him as a very poor mans DRose. he has the same skills as he does, just to a lesser extent, he's also pretty fast but not DRose fast.
I'm pretty sure the haters are gonna say something, but, that's what I see.