Official Speculation Thread (Pt XVI, Mods Close)

OrlandO · Post #1081 » by **OrlandO** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:17 am

We just have to wait. If talks are going then they could be going either way...

WeAreVenom · Post #1082 » by **WeAreVenom** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:18 am

The Real Dalic wrote:
ChosenSavior wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:It's time to focus our attention to teams with a functioning owner who wants to actually make a deal instead of tricking himself into thinking Dwight would be traded there and more laughably stay there...

We need to focus on improving our bench. I'm probably optimistic as hell for saying this but I honestly do believe that we can be a dark horse in the playoffs. My main fear is that are we disciplined enough to play hard and intelligent for 48 minutes each game because that is the main issue I have with this team this season.

I agree. we CAN win a championship. BUT, we HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT. and that's what scares me. we look unbeatable some games, than we go away from what works in other games only to get blown out. if Meer keeps this play up (looking for others shots, not his.), we could be a dangerous team. the question is, will he?

I'm not saying it's all on Meer. Redick has to play well, J-Rich, Ryan, everyone has to be consistent and we'll be fine.

Post #1083 » by **Bensational** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:18 am

AdamTheGreek wrote:So this is what I deem possible: http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6063854
Magic give up good non-Dwight/Ryno pieces for questionable goods.

I'm not necessarily endorsing this deal.

that's actually not a bad deal. i can see why each team would do it. nice work.

Tarnag · Post #1084 » by **Tarnag** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:19 am

NekiEcko wrote:I got a feeling that Warriors will deal with the Bucks before they do that Magic deal. My opinion of course but y'all still got three days to do something.

Only problem is the Bucks don't want what the Warriors have to offer, and the Warriors don't want to absorb S Jax.

Nolimit1211 · Post #1085 » by **Nolimit1211** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:28 am

Anyone watching ESPN? Mike Wilbon hates us with a passion....

cellomac1212 · Post #1086 » by **cellomac1212** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:29 am

OTownHoopstar23 wrote:I hate the warriors now..they a buncha scrubs..don't wanna deal with us cuz we won't trade Howard Smh I hope they suck for the next 50 years! And that snake jerry west, he is probably the main reason they won't trade.

You really think it's fair the Warriors lose their best player for Reddick, Anderson, and an expiring Kaman? Kaman is the only player out of the 3 that make this trade even worth talking about. But why wouldn't the Warriors just wait til the off-season and get Kaman in free agency without losing Monta? They would have to fight to retain his services anyway. Getting rid of Beidrins is not good enough reason to trade Monta as though we don't have the most cap space, great free agents aren't willing to sign here even if we did. Can't hate the Warriors for not wanting to give up their best player for a guarantee of Reddick and Anderson. Reality is Reddick and Anderson would be lucky to get you guys anything, and no near all star talent is coming to Orlando with that offer...

InFlames · Post #1087 » by **InFlames** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:30 am

Nolimit1211 wrote:Anyone watching ESPN? Mike Wilbon hates us with a passion....

That's because SVG always turns him down when asked to go on his show lol

magicfan4life05 · Post #1088 » by **magicfan4life05** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:31 am

What did Wilbon say ?

Nyce_1 · Post #1089 » by **Nyce_1** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:31 am

Nolimit1211 wrote:Anyone watching ESPN? Mike Wilbon hates us with a passion....

F those clowns. They don't know anything about our team.

magicman123 · Post #1090 » by **magicman123** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:31 am

cellomac1212 wrote:
OTownHoopstar23 wrote:I hate the warriors now..they a buncha scrubs..don't wanna deal with us cuz we won't trade Howard Smh I hope they suck for the next 50 years! And that snake jerry west, he is probably the main reason they won't trade.

You really think it's fair the Warriors lose their best player for Reddick, Anderson, and an expiring Kaman? Kaman is the only player out of the 3 that make this trade even worth talking about. But why wouldn't the Warriors just wait til the off-season and get Kaman in free agency without losing Monta? They would have to fight to retain his services anyway. Getting rid of Beidrins is not good enough reason to trade Monta as though we don't have the most cap space, great free agents aren't willing to sign here even if we did. Can't hate the Warriors for not wanting to give up their best player for a guarantee of Reddick and Anderson. Reality is Reddick and Anderson would be lucky to get you guys anything, and no near all star talent is coming to Orlando with that offer...

might not be the best trade for the warriors, but your organization wants a super star for ellis which isn't realistic either, his value is not what they think it is

InFlames · Post #1091 » by **InFlames** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:32 am

cellomac1212 wrote:
OTownHoopstar23 wrote:I hate the warriors now..they a buncha scrubs..don't wanna deal with us cuz we won't trade Howard Smh I hope they suck for the next 50 years! And that snake jerry west, he is probably the main reason they won't trade.

You really think it's fair the Warriors lose their best player for Reddick, Anderson, and an expiring Kaman? Kaman is the only player out of the 3 that make this trade even worth talking about. But why wouldn't the Warriors just wait til the off-season and get Kaman in free agency without losing Monta? They would have to fight to retain his services anyway. Getting rid of Beidrins is not good enough reason to trade Monta as though we don't have the most cap space, great free agents aren't willing to sign here even if we did. Can't hate the Warriors for not wanting to give up their best player for a guarantee of Reddick and Anderson. Reality is Reddick and Anderson would be lucky to get you guys anything, and no near all star talent is coming to Orlando with that offer...

JJ and Anderson are both better than Kaman.

magicman123 · Post #1092 » by **magicman123** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:34 am

kaman/anderson/jj is way to damn much for ellis anyways..

magicman112 · Post #1093 » by **magicman112** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:34 am

magicfan4life05 wrote:What did Wilbon say ?

He just said "Why would Golden State do that?!" about the deal. Chris Broussard talked about the discussed deal for Monta and that us and NO are trying to get GS to do the deal but they're hesitant.

magicfan4life05 · Post #1094 » by **magicfan4life05** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:35 am

magicman112 wrote:
magicfan4life05 wrote:What did Wilbon say ?

He just said "Why would Golden State do that?!" about the deal. Chris Broussard talked about the discussed deal for Monta and that us and NO are trying to get GS to do the deal but they're hesitant.

thanks...I think I heard Broussard at the end of that say NO and ORL are trying to convince GS to do it...which meshes with what the guy at TBN said that NO and ORL already agreed on it...

Nolimit1211 · Post #1095 » by **Nolimit1211** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:35 am

magicfan4life05 wrote:What did Wilbon say ?

If I recall correctly..

"BAWHAHAHA!! What is Golden State back?! BAHAHAHAHA!!!!"

D12VCMagic · Post #1096 » by **D12VCMagic** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:36 am

I just heard that the Magic and Hornets are on board with this and are trying to convince Golden State to take the deal by giving them a big in Kaman and cap relief, but supposedly the Warriors are not interested in shedding salary. They seriously think they are a starting center from being a Finals contender. They aren't really interested in moving Monta unless it is for Dwight, and pretty much only Dwight.

Tarnag · Post #1097 » by **Tarnag** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:37 am

cellomac1212 wrote:
OTownHoopstar23 wrote:I hate the warriors now..they a buncha scrubs..don't wanna deal with us cuz we won't trade Howard Smh I hope they suck for the next 50 years! And that snake jerry west, he is probably the main reason they won't trade.

You really think it's fair the Warriors lose their best player for Reddick, Anderson, and an expiring Kaman? Kaman is the only player out of the 3 that make this trade even worth talking about. But why wouldn't the Warriors just wait til the off-season and get Kaman in free agency without losing Monta? They would have to fight to retain his services anyway. Getting rid of Beidrins is not good enough reason to trade Monta as though we don't have the most cap space, great free agents aren't willing to sign here even if we did. Can't hate the Warriors for not wanting to give up their best player for a guarantee of Reddick and Anderson. Reality is Reddick and Anderson would be lucky to get you guys anything, and no near all star talent is coming to Orlando with that offer...

That's why I think getting Orlando involved in the Bogut trade makes more sense. We can absorb the contracts that you guys don't want to and throw our assets at the Bucks.

I mean, how does something like this look: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=76ydujm

Post #1098 » by **Hilltop** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:37 am

InFlames wrote:
Nolimit1211 wrote:Anyone watching ESPN? Mike Wilbon hates us with a passion....

That's because SVG always turns him down when asked to go on his show lol

They also had that little media war when Wilbon talked about Stan's job security a couple years ago

InFlames · Post #1099 » by **InFlames** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:40 am

If GS really think Kaman/Anderson/JJ is bad value for Ellis than they are just as inept as Otis.

PeePee la Fritz · Post #1100 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:41 am

The deal they on ESPN and a couple other outlets are reporting is:

Anderson, JJ going to NO
Monta to ORL
Kaman and Turk to GSW

Of course Golden State would not do that! These rumors are extremely convoluted, and no way that can be what these 3 teams talked about today. If so of course Orlando and New Orleans would be all in and pressuring Golden State to do a horrible deal for them