Official Speculation Thread (Pt XX: Trade Deadline cont.)

jezzer45 · Post #1081 » by **jezzer45** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:34 am

The Real Dalic wrote:Ping says the Lakers are offering Bynum, Blake, Ebanks, and Luke Walton, for Dwight, Q, Duhon, and a player TBA.

i thought blake was gone. hmm... things might get better for us if bbd or hedo is included.

justanotherfan · Post #1082 » by **justanotherfan** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:34 am

The Real Dalic wrote:Ping says the Lakers are offering Bynum, Blake, Ebanks, and Luke Walton, for Dwight, Q, Duhon, and a player TBA.

Player better be Turk

thelead · Post #1083 » by **thelead** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:34 am

The Real Dalic wrote:Ping says the Lakers are offering Bynum, Blake, Ebanks, and Luke Walton, for Dwight, Q, Duhon, and a player TBA.

I don't believe anything ping says, but I do this all day everyday if dwight doesn't commit.

londoncollin · Post #1084 » by **londoncollin** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:34 am

The Real Dalic wrote:Ping says the Lakers are offering Bynum, Blake, Ebanks, and Luke Walton, for Dwight, Q, Duhon, and a player TBA.

But isn't Blake going to Portland?

Driguez · Post #1085 » by **Driguez** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:35 am

OrlandO wrote:Someone please post a picture of Lopez's ugly face....

Last Guardian · Post #1086 » by **Last Guardian** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:35 am

The Real Dalic wrote:Ping says the Lakers are offering Bynum, Blake, Ebanks, and Luke Walton, for Dwight, Q, Duhon, and a player TBA.

Do it and don't look back.

WeAreVenom · Post #1087 » by **WeAreVenom** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:35 am

fendilim wrote:Jarrod N Rudolph ‏ @MisterRudolph

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Nets, however, are unsure if talks will happen as the Magic are said to have shown reluctance to answer calls.

Oh for the love of all things good.....

Nyce_1 · Post #1088 » by **Nyce_1** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:35 am

gp123 wrote:
MagicFan41 wrote:
laVal03 wrote:Who wants to bet we keep Dwight past the deadline and then this summer we do a sign and trade with NJ so Dwight gets the full amount and the only thing we get in return is a large trade exception in which we let expire and somehow we also throw in a second round pick?

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE PUT A STICKY OF THIS ON THE TOP OF THE PAGE OR SOMETHING????

***YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE MONEY/YEARS BY DOING A SIGN-AND-TRADE....NONE!***

***YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE MONEY/YEARS BY DOING A SIGN-AND-TRADE....NONE!***

***YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE MONEY/YEARS BY DOING A SIGN-AND-TRADE....NONE!***

***YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE MONEY/YEARS BY DOING A SIGN-AND-TRADE....NONE!***

***YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE MONEY/YEARS BY DOING A SIGN-AND-TRADE....NONE!***

umm... i think you do... not an expert here but I think the new CBA rules don't go into effect immediately. Someone correct me if i'm wrong though.

You're wrong. Rules effective immediately. Only new tax penalties dont go into effect for a couple more yrs.

FlopCity · Post #1089 » by **FlopCity** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:35 am

The Real Dalic wrote:Ping says the Lakers are offering Bynum, Blake, Ebanks, and Luke Walton, for Dwight, Q, Duhon, and a player TBA.

If that's true, take it and run.

fendilim · Post #1090 » by **fendilim** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:35 am

to me, if we're not answering the Nets calls that would mean we're not helping them out and the tampering charges will never happen.

I just hope that if we pursue the tampering charges, we pursue it not like what happened with Dan Gilbert's tampering charges.

The Real Dalic · Post #1091 » by **The Real Dalic** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:35 am

Remember guys it's Ping, so, I don't really believe it, but, I found it interesting. it's a better offer than Bynum, Fisher, MWP for Dwight, Turk.

RickB-Orlando · Post #1092 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:35 am

MagicFan41 wrote:
laVal03 wrote:Who wants to bet we keep Dwight past the deadline and then this summer we do a sign and trade with NJ so Dwight gets the full amount and the only thing we get in return is a large trade exception in which we let expire and somehow we also throw in a second round pick?

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE PUT A STICKY OF THIS ON THE TOP OF THE PAGE OR SOMETHING????

***YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE MONEY/YEARS BY DOING A SIGN-AND-TRADE....NONE!***

***YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE MONEY/YEARS BY DOING A SIGN-AND-TRADE....NONE!***

***YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE MONEY/YEARS BY DOING A SIGN-AND-TRADE....NONE!***

***YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE MONEY/YEARS BY DOING A SIGN-AND-TRADE....NONE!***

***YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE MONEY/YEARS BY DOING A SIGN-AND-TRADE....NONE!***

While this is true, there still can be advantages to a sign and trade for the player, in that it allows the new team to maintain cap space by shipping contracts to a player's former team. So a sign and trade is not impossible.

The Real Dalic · Post #1093 » by **The Real Dalic** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:36 am

Driguez wrote:
OrlandO wrote:Someone please post a picture of Lopez's ugly face....

I'm literally LOLing.

justanotherfan · Post #1094 » by **justanotherfan** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:36 am

At this point I guess most of us agree anywhere but NJ?

Post #1095 » by **ChosenSavior** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:36 am

toquito wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:There is only one thing I know for sure.....

I do not want Brook Lopez on this team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol brook lopez sounds like this guy [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otAI-E6-zn8[/youtube]

darthmerrick · Post #1096 » by **darthmerrick** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:37 am

If I had to choose a deal. I'd take Bynum deal over Lopez and Nets deal. BUt Turk and Duhon would have to be included in the trade.

The Real Dalic · Post #1097 » by **The Real Dalic** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:37 am

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Nets, however, are unsure if talks will happen as the Magic are said to have shown reluctance to answer calls.

Oh for the love of all things good.....

Please don't do this to us Orlando....

MagicFan32 · Post #1098 » by **MagicFan32** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:37 am

Oh there will be tampering charges dropped, nets fans. I was listening to magic post game, Scott Anez, and Dennis Nuemann plainly said, that it's not the end of that they probably know the details but can't say anything.

CLEARLY whatever meeting they had, before the end of the lockout changed Dwight and the Magic are gonna drop the bomb there is no doubt about it

gp123 · Post #1099 » by **gp123** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:37 am

Nyce_1 wrote:You're wrong. Rules effective immediately. Only new tax penalties dont go into effect for a couple more yrs.

RGR that, the only incentive to the trading team is to go above the cap then?

MagicFan41 · Post #1100 » by **MagicFan41** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:37 am

gp123 wrote:
pogiro wrote:
MagicFan41 wrote:
CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE PUT A STICKY OF THIS ON THE TOP OF THE PAGE OR SOMETHING????

***YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE MONEY/YEARS BY DOING A SIGN-AND-TRADE....NONE!***

***YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE MONEY/YEARS BY DOING A SIGN-AND-TRADE....NONE!***

***YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE MONEY/YEARS BY DOING A SIGN-AND-TRADE....NONE!***

***YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE MONEY/YEARS BY DOING A SIGN-AND-TRADE....NONE!***

***YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE MONEY/YEARS BY DOING A SIGN-AND-TRADE....NONE!***

You're wrong. Now read my big bold print again please.

Bird rights don't go with him unless he's traded tomorrow.

I've read numerous places that the new CBA rules would not apply to this years free agents regarding s/t... Is this for sure incorrect? I certainly do not know the details just want to be clear.

I've never read that once. According to every CBA analysis/documentation I've read on the new CBA, as well as tons of articles detailing this, the new CBA allows for sign-and-trades ONLY in the first 2 years (after then they aren't allowed), and that those sign-and-trade agreements are limited to 4 year, 4.5% max raises, which is the same as simply signing on a new team outright.