Official Speculation Thread Part 1 (Summer League 2014)

[OrlChamps2030]

I hope exum is as courageous as Thorpe,Collins and amaechi

Lol where did you get this from? Is this what Smart fanboys have to resort to now

[tiderulz]

I personally wouldn't have minded Adrien Payne, Mitch McGary, or Dario Saric (if he was still otb) @ #12.

Payne is a big body and ready to contribute right now as is McGary who was slated as a Top 5 pick last season, Saric was iffy though thanks to Fran Vazquez not coming over I think that played a role in his stock dropping (speaking of which) I just flashbacked to how that mofo (he and Otis) set us back, it's like we didn't even have a draft pick that yr... I digress though.

Anyway I think Payne is gona be a really solid NBA player and woulda been a nice compliment to Vucevic.

I am looking forward to how our guys come back in training camp, if AG puts on some weight and Payton as well, by Payton's muscle tone you can tell he hates hitting the weights or doing strength training, he strictly goes to the gym and hoops.

i could have seen Saric as the pick. Payne is just a stretch 4 with physical limitations (lungs) that he wont be able to get past and isnt a strong post defender at all. McGary to me is similar to Nick Collison, energy big with some good BBIQ, but his constant back issues as a big scare me a lot.

[Blue_and_Whte]

It's funny how people try to make opinion sound like fact, especially using phrases like "This guy WILL never do this" "Can never be that" yeah ok......we don't know what's going to happen to us an hour from now much less try to predict a players career path. Why make arbitrary statements when there is no need to? what's the justification? what's wrong with just waiting and see before making a statement you might possibly have to eat later?

This situation rings the same as the Dwight trade situation, everybody said we got robbed people here said the same as well. Guess what all it took was time didn't it? just waiting and see was the potion and after that time waiting and seeing we won that trade by a landslide. Did no one learn anything from that? That was a valuable lesson in not having knee jerk reactions. I wonder if we were to bump that Dwight trade thread back up who around here had to eat a crow sandwich? People just too enamored with instant gratification, well either way we're going to have wait regardless.

Although instant gratification is indeed one issue. The other issue is that, people are enamored with Exum. He had an average game but somehow hes the most ready nba player in the world to ever wear a uniform and aaron gordon is a guaranteed "bust".

People are just, mad because we didnt get our super tall pg that everyone here is enamoured with around here. Hennigan got a better pg at 12 and all they do is complain.

Its going to be difficult to pull for this kid to succeed with all the hyperbolic posts putting this guy on a pedestal coming our way.

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[cedric76]

I hope exum is as courageous as Thorpe,Collins and amaechi

Lol where did you get this from? Is this what Smart fanboys have to resort to now

Takes a lot of courage, not that easy to do in this homophobic world.

I like exum, wish him the best of luck

[RYgoBOOM]

Waittttt Exum scores 10 pts and people are going bat **** crazy? God I love this forum lol.

[NEM]

Waittttt Exum scores 10 pts and people are going bat **** crazy? God I love this forum lol.

Yeah bro. 10 points = GOAT... Don't forget the 3 assists and 3 rebounds. We really missed out on a sure fire first ballot hall of famer

[AddiFB]

Serms like the internet ignores what Elf did.

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[RYgoBOOM]

Serms like the internet ignores what Elf did.

Sent from my mancave

ya flirting with a triple double is meaningless apparently lol.

Also, to the people crying about giving frye 8 mil a year.......The Hornest just signed Marvin Williams for 7 mil a year

At least Frye made the suns the best in the league at SOMETHING.

[darthmerrick]

I like Aaron Gordon as a player but I think this decision to draft him will remain a big question, whether it was the right decision or not, until he finishes his rookie contract. Especially when guys like Exum, Smart, Randle are already showing they can play at this level, .


Anyway, my biggest concern here is we did not draft by BPA. Did we really have to draft the next Shawn Marion when we could have a chance to have landed the next Manu Ginobili? Exum has shown he is leap and bounds ahead of Gordon at this stage of their career. Exum's skillset is far more superior for his position as opposed to Gordon's skillset at his position. Right now, Gordon is still a tweener and just an athlete, but no way is he the player Exum is right now.

Regardless, I am a supporter of this team, but it doesn't mean I have to support every damn move this team has made.

Also, telling posters who wanted Exum over Gordon to go follow the Jazz instead or another team is bull. All of you anti-tankers should be following another team than whine on how we tank. Whats the point of discussing? lol

PS
All the questions about Exum playing against a non-competitive level of competition isnt great or whatever has proven most of YOU marcus smart supporters wrong.

You cannot go on summer league to draw your comparisons yet. The NBA season has not started, we do not know what Gordon or Exum will bring once it does start. Exum is going against scrubs PG's, international talent and rookies. He happens to play a tough position where over half the league has all star type talent at the position. Gordon is 18 years old and still hasn't filled into his body yet. He has some work to do offensively but for an 18 year old he has amazing defense. You can argue from what we saw from him on Team USA and at Arizona and what little we've seen of Exum that Gordon was B.P.A.

I think the dude is going to be a superstar.

I wanted to touch real quick on another post I read, forget who it was, but he suggested the reason we didn't take Exum was that Magic management was afraid Exum was way better then Oladipo and didn't want to hurt Dipo's ascension. I'm hoping they were being sarcastic, cuz that's absolutely bonkers. That's like turning down Lebron because your worried Dion Waiters would not cope well. If Dipo was that mentally fragile we would not have drafted him. We passed on Exum because Gordon would be gone by 5 and the gap between Ennis, Payton and Exum was not that far off. Why get one all star PG and a roll player at 12 when you can get two allstars. That's what Henny did!

[OrlChamps2030]

I hope exum is as courageous as Thorpe,Collins and amaechi

Lol where did you get this from? Is this what Smart fanboys have to resort to now

Takes a lot of courage, not that easy to do in this homophobic world.

I like exum, wish him the best of luck

[Bensational]

Man I know it's just one game, but damn. McDermott looks legit. I think a lot of teams are going regret passing on him. Dude can shoot and can get to the line. He has the size for the 3 and he gets a bad reputation (probably because he is white) but he is pretty athletic. That's a recipe for an elite scorer. 12-12 from the line. 31 points on 12 shots. wowsers.

If he is legit as he showed in this game (I know it's one game) a lineup of Rose/Butler/Dougie/Gasol/Noah to me is the favorites in the East. Provided Rose is healthy. McDermott will unclog the lane for Rose. You have shooting, size, athletism, defense, playmaking, low post scoring just about everything out of one lineup.

Maybe it's just me being bias. Since the Magic have been so bad recently the Bulls have been the team I root for in the playoffs. I love Rose, dude just plays, and Noah of course (Gators) but if Dougie turns out to be a stud they will firmly by my 2nd squad.

McDermott as your star player likely wouldn't be elite, but i think he's an elite system guy. on a team like the Bulls, or Spurs, or heck even the Suns, he'd be in a place to really set fire to the league.

he's the sort of guy i'd love for us to draft once we're confident we've got our stars. i'm glad he's doing well for the Bulls.

[Bensational]

I like Aaron Gordon as a player but I think this decision to draft him will remain a big question, whether it was the right decision or not, until he finishes his rookie contract. Especially when guys like Exum, Smart, Randle are already showing they can play at this level, .


Anyway, my biggest concern here is we did not draft by BPA. Did we really have to draft the next Shawn Marion when we could have a chance to have landed the next Manu Ginobili? Exum has shown he is leap and bounds ahead of Gordon at this stage of their career. Exum's skillset is far more superior for his position as opposed to Gordon's skillset at his position. Right now, Gordon is still a tweener and just an athlete, but no way is he the player Exum is right now.

Regardless, I am a supporter of this team, but it doesn't mean I have to support every damn move this team has made.

Also, telling posters who wanted Exum over Gordon to go follow the Jazz instead or another team is bull. All of you anti-tankers should be following another team than whine on how we tank. Whats the point of discussing? lol

PS
All the questions about Exum playing against a non-competitive level of competition isnt great or whatever has proven most of YOU marcus smart supporters wrong.

how exactly has Exum shown this? a 1 or 2 fast moves? a pretty avg stat line? and everyone in Utah was second guessing him 3 days ago when in an open-fan practice, he couldnt hit the ocean if he was standing next to it. Because of 1 or 2 moves to the basket, all of a sudden he is a Kobe/Magic Johnson hybrid. He still doesnt defend well at all, cant go left. He has his own problems. Not saying Gordon is better than him, Exum seems ahead, but just still amazed at the overrating of player after one game. Look at Atlanta's Schreoder? 30+ pts last night, and tore it up last year at SL, and could barely see the court last year he was making so many mistakes.

you clearly didn't watch the game. he took guys off the dribble and went left several times, no problems whatsoever. his handles were solid, albeit 1 turnover, which he promptly stole back.

if you want to pick a flaw in him, say it's his tendency not to look for his shot once he gets to the rim. he clearly saw more arms in the way than he's seen before, so he opted to make the pass most times. not a bad thing, but it suggests he's not going to light up scoreboards straight away.

[Bensational]

can someone who's feeling like Exum is being unfairly hyped on this board please show me all of the posts that are exaggerating his performance? everyone seems so damn touchy about people complimenting Exum, but i'm not seeing many people lose their ish over him. i think there are maybe 2 or 3 people i've seen on this board make some leaps of judgement, but that's it.

if anything i'd say those who are overly sensitive about pro-Exum comments are the ones most worried that we made the wrong decision.

[tiderulz]

I like Aaron Gordon as a player but I think this decision to draft him will remain a big question, whether it was the right decision or not, until he finishes his rookie contract. Especially when guys like Exum, Smart, Randle are already showing they can play at this level, .


Anyway, my biggest concern here is we did not draft by BPA. Did we really have to draft the next Shawn Marion when we could have a chance to have landed the next Manu Ginobili? Exum has shown he is leap and bounds ahead of Gordon at this stage of their career. Exum's skillset is far more superior for his position as opposed to Gordon's skillset at his position. Right now, Gordon is still a tweener and just an athlete, but no way is he the player Exum is right now.

Regardless, I am a supporter of this team, but it doesn't mean I have to support every damn move this team has made.

Also, telling posters who wanted Exum over Gordon to go follow the Jazz instead or another team is bull. All of you anti-tankers should be following another team than whine on how we tank. Whats the point of discussing? lol

PS
All the questions about Exum playing against a non-competitive level of competition isnt great or whatever has proven most of YOU marcus smart supporters wrong.

how exactly has Exum shown this? a 1 or 2 fast moves? a pretty avg stat line? and everyone in Utah was second guessing him 3 days ago when in an open-fan practice, he couldnt hit the ocean if he was standing next to it. Because of 1 or 2 moves to the basket, all of a sudden he is a Kobe/Magic Johnson hybrid. He still doesnt defend well at all, cant go left. He has his own problems. Not saying Gordon is better than him, Exum seems ahead, but just still amazed at the overrating of player after one game. Look at Atlanta's Schreoder? 30+ pts last night, and tore it up last year at SL, and could barely see the court last year he was making so many mistakes.

you clearly didn't watch the game. he took guys off the dribble and went left several times, no problems whatsoever. his handles were solid, albeit 1 turnover, which he promptly stole back.

if you want to pick a flaw in him, say it's his tendency not to look for his shot once he gets to the rim. he clearly saw more arms in the way than he's seen before, so he opted to make the pass most times. not a bad thing, but it suggests he's not going to light up scoreboards straight away.

i actually did watch the game. And it wasnt just me that saw he has issues with his left hand, it was Utah fans (the same ones that call him the next Kobe/Magic hybrid) that saw the same issues. I didnt see anything that automatically said "Superstar". but then, i take SL games with a grain of salt, since most of the players there go back to normal jobs a month or 2 afterwards.

[tiderulz]

can someone who's feeling like Exum is being unfairly hyped on this board please show me all of the posts that are exaggerating his performance? everyone seems so damn touchy about people complimenting Exum, but i'm not seeing many people lose their ish over him. i think there are maybe 2 or 3 people i've seen on this board make some leaps of judgement, but that's it.

if anything i'd say those who are overly sensitive about pro-Exum comments are the ones most worried that we made the wrong decision.

just go to the general board and read "Dante Exum: how good can he be". Apparently, people think the Magic franchise will rue the day they passed him and that our FO is incompetent.

oh, and the Summer League thread for Saturday night.

[Inqui]

can someone who's feeling like Exum is being unfairly hyped on this board please show me all of the posts that are exaggerating his performance? everyone seems so damn touchy about people complimenting Exum, but i'm not seeing many people lose their ish over him. i think there are maybe 2 or 3 people i've seen on this board make some leaps of judgement, but that's it.

if anything i'd say those who are overly sensitive about pro-Exum comments are the ones most worried that we made the wrong decision.

just go to the general board and read "Dante Exum: how good can he be". Apparently, people think the Magic franchise will rue the day they passed him and that our FO is incompetent.

oh, and the Summer League thread for Saturday night.

To be fair, that was the same thread where a guy said Nik Stauskas already has the second-best pull-up jumper in the league (behind Kobe), so that thread immediately shouldn't be taken at face value - although point taken.

I'm in two minds about heading back to the general board to see the Exum bandwagon thread, haha. I also post on an Australian sports forum and haven't seen a word about the guy from them yet (which is where you'd think a big part of the hype would come from).

[Bensational]

i actually did watch the game. And it wasnt just me that saw he has issues with his left hand, it was Utah fans (the same ones that call him the next Kobe/Magic hybrid) that saw the same issues. I didnt see anything that automatically said "Superstar". but then, i take SL games with a grain of salt, since most of the players there go back to normal jobs a month or 2 afterwards.

when his very first move is to go left and then dish off an assist (which was fouled), and then he follows that up not long after with taking a guy off with his left hand on a hesitation move, i wouldn't say he's got issues with his left hand. but i'll agree he favours his right, sure.

[Bensational]

can someone who's feeling like Exum is being unfairly hyped on this board please show me all of the posts that are exaggerating his performance? everyone seems so damn touchy about people complimenting Exum, but i'm not seeing many people lose their ish over him. i think there are maybe 2 or 3 people i've seen on this board make some leaps of judgement, but that's it.

if anything i'd say those who are overly sensitive about pro-Exum comments are the ones most worried that we made the wrong decision.

just go to the general board and read "Dante Exum: how good can he be". Apparently, people think the Magic franchise will rue the day they passed him and that our FO is incompetent.

oh, and the Summer League thread for Saturday night.

that's the general board dude. i'm talking about here, on this board, where everyone seems to be getting all uptight about anyone who's got anything positive to say about Exum.

the summer league thread from the other night looked like mostly rational observations to me, too.

that's why i'm asking for someone to show me the posts which are out of order, cos i'm not seeing it.

[Nyce_1]

advice: stay off the general board for Magic-related topics. They know nothing about our roster or direction.

Exum looks to have superstar hype like Westbrook. Payton seems to be an under-the-radar quality PG that will shine after a few national games, like Kawhi Leonard.

[cedric76]

advice: stay off the general board for Magic-related topics.

Stay off Realgm till training camp