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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1081 » by Skybox » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:17 pm

drsd wrote:ESPN.com: Everything to know about the 17 teams that can still win the title


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The Magic push the Bucks to six games, an impressive feat given how many issues Clifford's group has endured. Realistically, the organization needs to make sure nobody else gets seriously hurt and hope for better days in the future.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1082 » by MagicFan101 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:18 pm

Someone probably covered it but what is the word on AG & Evan being ready to go for Game 1?
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Post#1083 » by drsd » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:40 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:Someone probably covered it but what is the word on AG & Evan being ready to go for Game 1?


Gordon is self-quoted as being ready.

For Orlando to actually win a series against the Bucks, WHERE IS BAMBA ???

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Post#1084 » by NotACat » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:45 pm

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MagicFan101 wrote:Someone probably covered it but what is the word on AG & Evan being ready to go for Game 1?


Gordon is self-quoted as being ready.

For Orlando to actually win a series against the Bucks, WHERE IS BAMBA ???

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Post#1085 » by RookieStar » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:50 pm

As much as AG is important to make this series respectable, what about MCW? He good to go?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1086 » by drsd » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:25 pm

The computers favor the Magic much more than the Nets!

(Orlando has a solid 2% chance to beat Milwaukee)
(Brooklyn has a <1% chance to beat Toronto)


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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1087 » by Def Swami » Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:59 pm

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Post#1088 » by thelead » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:33 am

There is one thread about the playoffs that start this week and it's a poll that was started today... we've known who we would be playing over a week ago and there is very little talk about it. Is this really what Martins cares about? An apathetic fan base during playoff time? If this board doesn't care, what does the general public think? Do they even know?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1089 » by shadrock » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:53 am

thelead wrote:There is one thread about the playoffs that start this week and it's a poll that was started today... we've known who we would be playing over a week ago and there is very little talk about it. Is this really what Martins cares about? An apathetic fan base during playoff time? If this board doesn't care, what does the general public think? Do they even know?


I have never been less interested in a Magic playoff team. Id actually prefer we won 5 games this season and at least could get into the draft. This is literally the middle ground we all feared and yet here we are. But im sure Alex Martins is thrilled and already greasing his hair in anticipation.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1090 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:53 pm

I am excited for this team. Wish a healthy Slim was here as then it would be a chance at upset. Regardless, Magic gonna provem all wrong!!!
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Post#1091 » by drsd » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:56 pm

shadrock wrote:I have never been less interested in a Magic playoff team. Id actually prefer we won 5 games this season and at least could get into the draft. This is literally the middle ground we all feared and yet here we are. But im sure Alex Martins is thrilled and already greasing his hair in anticipation.



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Post#1092 » by drsd » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:58 pm

Skybox wrote:There's our goal for the playoffs...avoid injuries...Woe is us.



All of the media on the Magic over the last 30 hours is about, "the shipped sailed on AVOIDING INJURIES".

Gosh: it was only two weeks ago that we were all super excited that the Magic was fully healthy, minus Aminu. Now this.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1093 » by zaymon » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:58 pm

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Skybox wrote:There's our goal for the playoffs...avoid injuries...Woe is us.



All of the media on the Magic over the last 30 hours is about, "the shipped sailed on AVOIDING INJURIES".

Gosh: it was only two weeks ago that we were all super excited that the Magic was fully healthy, minus Aminu. Now this.

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This is so anticlimatic. Healthy Goliat versus injured David. Only life can write such a bs scenario.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1094 » by Def Swami » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:59 pm

thelead wrote:There is one thread about the playoffs that start this week and it's a poll that was started today... we've known who we would be playing over a week ago and there is very little talk about it. Is this really what Martins cares about? An apathetic fan base during playoff time? If this board doesn't care, what does the general public think? Do they even know?

The Isaac injury was a seismic blow on multiple levels. It effectively ended our season this year and removed the single most interesting part of this team. The 3 games Isaac did play in the bubble were probably the most excited I was watching this team in a very long time. I was genuinely having a great Sunday afternoon watching the Magic run the Kings out of the gym by 30 while watching Isaac round out into form. Isaac's injury was the Red Wedding of injuries smh. I can't remember the last time an injury gutted our franchise like that. Maybe Grant Hill?

Not only does it remove the single most relevant facet of our team this season, but it impacts what was in store for next season. I believe Isaac becoming a legitimate 2 way player that the team could build with would open up the possibility for Weltman/Hammond to make a move with Gordon or Vucevic or Fournier that would better balance the team and move into a more competitive direction. I'm not sure how the Isaac injury changes their plan for the roster, but it definitely limits the team's ceiling going into next year.

All of that combined, and I understand why fans are pretty despondent. We had a game last week where we started Wes Iwundu, Gary Clark, and James Ennis. Weltman and Hammond didn't really do a lot to improve the ceiling of the team. I get losing Isaac is a blow, but that can't be the end all of your team after 3 seasons of work. I thought the bubble would be a good opportunity to allow Fultz and Bamba to get some experience in meaningful games, but the it feels like the team has other priorities that seem futile.

It's a big offseason for Weltman and Hammond. It was going to be regardless of whether they had Isaac healthy or not. Front offices usually don't last more than 3 seasons without some sort of substantial improvement. Maybe the Magic ownership is content with some .500 basketball and low seed playoff appearances. But your point is important in that it doesn't do much for fan engagement and eyeballs if this is the product. I've always been skeptical of the front office, but I think there will be grounds for changes after this off-season if they just run the same team out there again next season. They'll need some luck to make it back to the playoffs in '20-'21.

Side note: Weltman and Hammond's 3 draft picks are all out of commission for one reason or another lol (Isaac - knee, Bamba - COVID, Okeke - knee).
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1095 » by drsd » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:11 pm

zaymon wrote:Healthy Goliat versus injured David. Only life can write such a bs scenario.



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Re: Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory 

Post#1096 » by J the Drafter » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:02 pm

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thelead wrote:There is one thread about the playoffs that start this week and it's a poll that was started today... we've known who we would be playing over a week ago and there is very little talk about it. Is this really what Martins cares about? An apathetic fan base during playoff time? If this board doesn't care, what does the general public think? Do they even know?

The Isaac injury was a seismic blow on multiple levels. It effectively ended our season this year and removed the single most interesting part of this team. The 3 games Isaac did play in the bubble were probably the most excited I was watching this team in a very long time. I was genuinely having a great Sunday afternoon watching the Magic run the Kings out of the gym by 30 while watching Isaac round out into form. Isaac's injury was the Red Wedding of injuries smh. I can't remember the last time an injury gutted our franchise like that. Maybe Grant Hill?

Not only does it remove the single most relevant facet of our team this season, but it impacts what was in store for next season. I believe Isaac becoming a legitimate 2 way player that the team could build with would open up the possibility for Weltman/Hammond to make a move with Gordon or Vucevic or Fournier that would better balance the team and move into a more competitive direction. I'm not sure how the Isaac injury changes their plan for the roster, but it definitely limits the team's ceiling going into next year.

All of that combined, and I understand why fans are pretty despondent. We had a game last week where we started Wes Iwundu, Gary Clark, and James Ennis. Weltman and Hammond didn't really do a lot to improve the ceiling of the team. I get losing Isaac is a blow, but that can't be the end all of your team after 3 seasons of work. I thought the bubble would be a good opportunity to allow Fultz and Bamba to get some experience in meaningful games, but the it feels like the team has other priorities that seem futile.

It's a big offseason for Weltman and Hammond. It was going to be regardless of whether they had Isaac healthy or not. Front offices usually don't last more than 3 seasons without some sort of substantial improvement. Maybe the Magic ownership is content with some .500 basketball and low seed playoff appearances. But your point is important in that it doesn't do much for fan engagement and eyeballs if this is the product. I've always been skeptical of the front office, but I think there will be grounds for changes after this off-season if they just run the same team out there again next season. They'll need some luck to make it back to the playoffs in '20-'21.

Side note: Weltman and Hammond's 3 draft picks are all out of commission for one reason or another lol (Isaac - knee, Bamba - COVID, Okeke - knee).

Bamba is a big-time project, and Okeke is recovering from the injury to his knee. That’s two year’s worth of draft picks that still need time to pay off.
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Post#1097 » by Ducklett » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:14 pm

You guys remember when we forced playoffs to get meaningful minutes for Isaac and Bamba? That aged well.
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Post#1098 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:22 pm

Ducklett wrote:You guys remember when we forced playoffs to get meaningful minutes for Isaac and Bamba? That aged well.

FO looks more like busts each year
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Post#1099 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:47 pm

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Post#1100 » by PrimeThyme » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:45 am

Def Swami wrote:The Isaac injury was a seismic blow on multiple levels. It effectively ended our season this year and removed the single most interesting part of this team. The 3 games Isaac did play in the bubble were probably the most excited I was watching this team in a very long time. I was genuinely having a great Sunday afternoon watching the Magic run the Kings out of the gym by 30 while watching Isaac round out into form. Isaac's injury was the Red Wedding of injuries smh. I can't remember the last time an injury gutted our franchise like that. Maybe Grant Hill?

Not only does it remove the single most relevant facet of our team this season, but it impacts what was in store for next season. I believe Isaac becoming a legitimate 2 way player that the team could build with would open up the possibility for Weltman/Hammond to make a move with Gordon or Vucevic or Fournier that would better balance the team and move into a more competitive direction. I'm not sure how the Isaac injury changes their plan for the roster, but it definitely limits the team's ceiling going into next year.

All of that combined, and I understand why fans are pretty despondent. We had a game last week where we started Wes Iwundu, Gary Clark, and James Ennis. Weltman and Hammond didn't really do a lot to improve the ceiling of the team. I get losing Isaac is a blow, but that can't be the end all of your team after 3 seasons of work. I thought the bubble would be a good opportunity to allow Fultz and Bamba to get some experience in meaningful games, but the it feels like the team has other priorities that seem futile.

It's a big offseason for Weltman and Hammond. It was going to be regardless of whether they had Isaac healthy or not. Front offices usually don't last more than 3 seasons without some sort of substantial improvement. Maybe the Magic ownership is content with some .500 basketball and low seed playoff appearances. But your point is important in that it doesn't do much for fan engagement and eyeballs if this is the product. I've always been skeptical of the front office, but I think there will be grounds for changes after this off-season if they just run the same team out there again next season. They'll need some luck to make it back to the playoffs in '20-'21.

Side note: Weltman and Hammond's 3 draft picks are all out of commission for one reason or another lol (Isaac - knee, Bamba - COVID, Okeke - knee).

At least when Grant Hill was injured having a top 5 player in the NBA and one of the best pure scorers of all time In T-Mac helped soften the blow. What was so crushing about the Isaac injury, is he was pretty much all we had to look forward to. Bamba has shown close to nothing up until this point and has been dealing with injuries as well. Fultz has been dealing with injuries and is still reluctant (or just can't) to attempt a pull-up jumper beyond 15 feet. Chuma is an absolute unknown.

The rest of this roster consists of vets who would most likely be suited as 4th options on even borderline championship-contending teams. If you put AG on a team like GSW surrounded by floor spacers, elite scorers, and one of the best offensive systems in the NBA I think he would absolutely flourish, but obviously we have nothing close to any of those things here which leads me to believe that his ceiling is pretty much capped on this roster and that he will be moved. Everyone else including our mediocre coaching staff isn't even worth talking about.

I'm with you in thinking that this is a huge offseason for Weham but Ive just seen nothing up until this point that leads me to believe that they will do anything worth getting excited about.

The worst part about Weham and this coaching staff imo is the only thing they leave me feeling as a fan is apathy. I don't hate them like I hated Rob by the end or Vogel and I certainly don't love them like I did Stan and his staff. They are just so mediocre that it's hard to care about anything that they do.

That just sucks the passion as a hardcore fan right out of you.
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