Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 3.0

[drsd]

Why are we looking at rookie stats like there is 80 rookies playing?

I useed filter of minimum 35 games played minimum 15 min per game and only 21 players comming out.

Among them, Black is dead last in PPG, 6th lowest in RPGs and 8th lowest in APGs.


This isn't just knock on Black ,outside of Miller and Victor 2023 draft in year one offered very little. Only reason why ROY race is a actual thing is Holmgren missing his rookie class and getting eligiable for year after ( once agian, i still belive those players shouldn't be part of ROY race, but whatever).

Fact that 18# and 19# pick will make all nba first team says a lot.

And-1

I have never understood the Black enthusiasm other than his play means Fultz loses minutes. Being better than Fultz is not really a bar to jump over, after all.

[Skybox]

Any chance we could move the AB dispute to his own thread?

I get very excited when I see new activity on the Trade Thread and keep running into the same old Fultz-ish crap, but now it's fierce defense of a 4.9ppg/2 apg guy who shoots a 3pt attempt every other game. A guy who I like very much but can't realistically defend as ORL's starting PG...except for the fact that he's the best of the worst PG rotation in the league. I have high hopes for AB, but not this season and likely next and maybe not ever as a starting PG. He should be backing up Murray or Brogdon or even Tyus right now and bringing a fantastic but limited defensive presence while getting on-the-job training for offense.

[eyriq]

What's the distribution of college players APG? I'll wait.

Times up. Among freshman players in 2023 that played more than 16.5 MPG, Anthony Black is in the:

75th percentile in usage rate
90th percentile in points per game
84th percentile in rebounds per game
97th percentile in assists per game
99th percentile in steals per game
85th percentile in blocks per game
95th percentile in free throw rate
95th percentile in offensive box score plus minus
97th percentile in defensive box score plus minus

You are selling this kid wayyyyy too short and I think it is entirely because
1. You are heavily over indexed on shooting
2. You under value our play making forwards

What does this even attempt to say? That was then, this is now.

This is a silly argument.

You essentially brought up something completely irrelevant and overgeneralized and are ignoring more materiel evidence when it comes to Black.

Do you want me to dig up some player's college stats from four years ago and use that argument as to why he's going to blow up? Just watch Marvin Bagley this year!

Also, touting Black's and Suggs defensive prowess around here has gotten a bit out of control.

Defensive players in the NBA have such a limited impact.

Curry had no problem with them, neither did Mitchell, neither did Brunson, neither did Murray.

I remember back when people were calling Raja Bell the "Kobe stopper". My God! What a load of honkey that was!

A good defender in basketball and especially the NBA today is someone who can make the best players work but they still get their points.

This is not like football where a great defense can legitimately control the game.

NBA basketball is and is now more than ever an offensive player's game.

It's relevant to contextualize his performance against his peers. He's amongst the top 10% of freshman college hoopers.

Translating this performance to the NBA would place him in the top 45. That's his upside based on the evidence. Size, athleticism, defense, playmaking, and college performance all contributed to him going #6, and there is clear line of sight to him being a top 45 player in the NBA.

To reach this upside he needs playing time. To get playing time we need to avoid blocking him. Which is why I vote no on acquiring a PG with our pre-extension cap space and draft equity.

Using pre-NBA performance to predict future NBA performance breaks down the further into the future you get, ya know? The more NBA performance you get the less relevant pre-NBA experience becomes.

[The-Stallion70]

Times up. Among freshman players in 2023 that played more than 16.5 MPG, Anthony Black is in the:

75th percentile in usage rate
90th percentile in points per game
84th percentile in rebounds per game
97th percentile in assists per game
99th percentile in steals per game
85th percentile in blocks per game
95th percentile in free throw rate
95th percentile in offensive box score plus minus
97th percentile in defensive box score plus minus

You are selling this kid wayyyyy too short and I think it is entirely because
1. You are heavily over indexed on shooting
2. You under value our play making forwards

What does this even attempt to say? That was then, this is now.

This is a silly argument.

You essentially brought up something completely irrelevant and overgeneralized and are ignoring more materiel evidence when it comes to Black.

Do you want me to dig up some player's college stats from four years ago and use that argument as to why he's going to blow up? Just watch Marvin Bagley this year!

Also, touting Black's and Suggs defensive prowess around here has gotten a bit out of control.

Defensive players in the NBA have such a limited impact.

Curry had no problem with them, neither did Mitchell, neither did Brunson, neither did Murray.

I remember back when people were calling Raja Bell the "Kobe stopper". My God! What a load of honkey that was!

A good defender in basketball and especially the NBA today is someone who can make the best players work but they still get their points.

This is not like football where a great defense can legitimately control the game.

NBA basketball is and is now more than ever an offensive player's game.

It's relevant to contextualize his performance against his peers. He's amongst the top 10% of freshman college hoopers.

Translating this performance to the NBA would place him in the top 45. That's his upside based on the evidence. Size, athleticism, defense, playmaking, and college performance all contributed to him going #6.

To reach this upside he needs playing time. To get playing time we need to avoid blocking him. Which is why I vote no on acquiring a PG with our pre-extension cap space and draft equity.

Using pre-NBA performance to predict future NBA performance breaks down the further into the future you get, ya know? The more NBA performance you get the less relevant pre-NBA experience becomes.

Black has played 980 minutes in the NBA and played 1255 minutes in college.

Why are we attempting to 'project' performance in a real setting based on old data when we already have the real data?

[CocoaFan]

Man people are just suckers for pain

Don't look now kiddo but there are plenty of rookies this season who are doing much more than just "showing flashes" and many of them were taken much lower than 6th as well.

Lively in Dallas, Jaquez, Miller and Wemby just off the top of my head.

Black's winshares number is in the middle of the pack and this is really only because he has shared the court with our stars.

Hilarious I'm a grown man being called "kiddo" anyway I'm not worried about what other teams are doing or have done with their rooks .....i tend to not try and cry over spilled milk, what's done is done... I want to try and see whatever they saw in AB.....im not trying to convince anyone why I like what I've seen out of AB.... I like his foundation, the size and work ethic... Honestly I thought the plan was for BOTH AB and jett to be in the G league but the injuries changed that and he was thrown into the fire when he probably wasn't supposed to....

Me personally you can look up my post history at the time I'm on record saying that I didn't care who we get we have paolo and Franz already.... I wasn't high on this draft class beside wemby.... So I thought no matter who we got I doubt they'd be stars... My expectations coming in were tempered so for AB to be doing what he's doing now is meeting and somewhat exceeding what I expected for a rookie.... He's playing his role, I can live with that...even though I think there is more to his game than he's allowed to show especially when it comes to pick and roll.... Then again markelle is more or less in the same role, dribble the ball past half court then pass it to franz or paolo then stand in the corner or the dunkers spot.....Fultz has a bit more freedom to call his own number but that's what mose wants... I'm cool with that

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I don't want to make too long of a post because I'm not sure we're really getting anywhere but I just think you're wrong.

Many teams intentionally tank their season and end up with the sixth pick. The sixth pick is your consolation and chance at making the team better when it performs poorly. We shouldn't let the fact that we had Paolo and Franz make us feel better about voluntarily blowing our top pick.

There is an opportunity cost to not striking when the iron is hot, or not taking the better talent when the rare opportunity is available, as it is when you pick sixth.

Ours is not situation like the 2004 Detroit Pistons when they took Darko Milicic over Wade, Carmelo and Bosh because they didn't want to disrupt team chemistry and won a championship the following year.

They still missed out on HOF talents but did win a chip and had basically the best team in the East.

Still, how good could they have been if they had taken Wade Bosh or Melo? Could have they been a dynasty?

Stallion it seems like you're making an assumption that there was some other great pick we could have made at #6. I'm not sure who there was, Jarace Walker? Now at #11 I would have definitely picked Gradey Dick over Jett Howard. Probably should have traded picks.

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Man people are just suckers for pain

Don't look now kiddo but there are plenty of rookies this season who are doing much more than just "showing flashes" and many of them were taken much lower than 6th as well.

Lively in Dallas, Jaquez, Miller and Wemby just off the top of my head.

Black's winshares number is in the middle of the pack and this is really only because he has shared the court with our stars.

Hilarious I'm a grown man being called "kiddo" anyway I'm not worried about what other teams are doing or have done with their rooks .....i tend to not try and cry over spilled milk, what's done is done... I want to try and see whatever they saw in AB.....im not trying to convince anyone why I like what I've seen out of AB.... I like his foundation, the size and work ethic... Honestly I thought the plan was for BOTH AB and jett to be in the G league but the injuries changed that and he was thrown into the fire when he probably wasn't supposed to....

Me personally you can look up my post history at the time I'm on record saying that I didn't care who we get we have paolo and Franz already.... I wasn't high on this draft class beside wemby.... So I thought no matter who we got I doubt they'd be stars... My expectations coming in were tempered so for AB to be doing what he's doing now is meeting and somewhat exceeding what I expected for a rookie.... He's playing his role, I can live with that...even though I think there is more to his game than he's allowed to show especially when it comes to pick and roll.... Then again markelle is more or less in the same role, dribble the ball past half court then pass it to franz or paolo then stand in the corner or the dunkers spot.....Fultz has a bit more freedom to call his own number but that's what mose wants... I'm cool with that

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I don't want to make too long of a post because I'm not sure we're really getting anywhere but I just think you're wrong.

Many teams intentionally tank their season and end up with the sixth pick. The sixth pick is your consolation and chance at making the team better when it performs poorly. We shouldn't let the fact that we had Paolo and Franz make us feel better about voluntarily blowing our top pick.

There is an opportunity cost to not striking when the iron is hot, or not taking the better talent when the rare opportunity is available, as it is when you pick sixth.

Ours is not situation like the 2004 Detroit Pistons when they took Darko Milicic over Wade, Carmelo and Bosh because they didn't want to disrupt team chemistry and won a championship the following year.

They still missed out on HOF talents but did win a chip and had basically the best team in the East.

Still, how good could they have been if they had taken Wade Bosh or Melo? Could have they been a dynasty?

The difference in all of these examples that nobody feels like adding is actual context…

AB hasn’t had consistent minutes. In the beginning of the season he started due to injuries and was phased out of the rotation for vets pretty quickly.

Some rookies have been getting tons of minutes and other like Jett aren’t anywhere to be seen.

We don’t really know what we have with AB yet. We know one thing.. he isn’t Markelle Fultz. Luckily Orlando has 3 more years of this guy on a rookie deal to figure it out. It’s really easy to throw out examples of multi time allstars and HOF guys after the fact. A ton of guys with great careers didn’t have astronomical rookie seasons.

Also this idea that every pick should have been traded because people on a message board didn’t like the options is kinda hilarious. You have to know who the options were. We will never know. AB is going to be good based purely on his skill set and versatility. That has value in the league.

[Knightro]

To reach this upside he needs playing time. To get playing time we need to avoid blocking him. Which is why I vote no on acquiring a PG with our pre-extension cap space and draft equity.

This here is ultimately the disconnect.

Unlike Jett Howard who isn't playing at all, Anthony Black actually has played somewhat regularly this year. He's almost at 1000 minutes. And he's probably going to end up playing roughly 1500 minutes this season. He has a chance to finish top 10 among rookies in minutes played.

But ultimately he is not really developing simply by playing because - through a combination of how he's being used and his own limitations from a skill and personality perspective - he's not really doing any of the things he needs to do on the court offensively to really expand his horizons as a player and ultimately assume a larger role next season.

He's basically a stand still and wait for a pass player offensively who sometimes dribbles the ball across halfcourt. He initiates no offense for himself or others on his own.

That isn't going to change until a combination of the Magic using him differently and him improving his skill and confidence level to actually try and do... anything... offensively with the ball actually happens.

It would be a brutal mistake to not acquire a high end point guard because of Black's presence.

Get Fultz and Cole the hell out of here, bring in somebody capable of handling 28-33 minutes a night to be the starter and get Black to develop as a lead guard by actually using him as the on the basketball as the backup PG. Live with the consequences of his inevitable struggles that they *should* have gotten out of the way this year, but didn't.

[p0peye]

Black has got a loads of burn in his rookie season, our weak guard rotation is what actually works in his favor. Only skill he showcased so far is ability to defend. Like mentioned Raja Bell, but without shooting.

[eyriq]

What does this even attempt to say? That was then, this is now.

This is a silly argument.

You essentially brought up something completely irrelevant and overgeneralized and are ignoring more materiel evidence when it comes to Black.

Do you want me to dig up some player's college stats from four years ago and use that argument as to why he's going to blow up? Just watch Marvin Bagley this year!

Also, touting Black's and Suggs defensive prowess around here has gotten a bit out of control.

Defensive players in the NBA have such a limited impact.

Curry had no problem with them, neither did Mitchell, neither did Brunson, neither did Murray.

I remember back when people were calling Raja Bell the "Kobe stopper". My God! What a load of honkey that was!

A good defender in basketball and especially the NBA today is someone who can make the best players work but they still get their points.

This is not like football where a great defense can legitimately control the game.

NBA basketball is and is now more than ever an offensive player's game.

It's relevant to contextualize his performance against his peers. He's amongst the top 10% of freshman college hoopers.

Translating this performance to the NBA would place him in the top 45. That's his upside based on the evidence. Size, athleticism, defense, playmaking, and college performance all contributed to him going #6.

To reach this upside he needs playing time. To get playing time we need to avoid blocking him. Which is why I vote no on acquiring a PG with our pre-extension cap space and draft equity.

Using pre-NBA performance to predict future NBA performance breaks down the further into the future you get, ya know? The more NBA performance you get the less relevant pre-NBA experience becomes.

Black has played 980 minutes in the NBA and played 1255 minutes in college.

Why are we attempting to 'project' performance in a real setting based on old data when we already have the real data?

When do we have enough NBA data to change our development expectations? I expect neither of us would say AB is a finished product. He's already in the top 20% of NBA defenders. He's ahead of schedule in developing a shot. His playmaking is... on schedule? PGs are notoriously slow developers as the NBA game is much faster.

[Knightro]

When do we have enough NBA data to change our development expectations? I expect neither of us would say AB is a finished product. He's already in the top 20% of NBA defenders. He's ahead of schedule in developing a shot. His playmaking is... on schedule? PGs are notoriously slow developers as the NBA game is much faster.

1. Black's defense is already good and has the chance to be very good. He's big and also quick defensively, a potentially great combo. That's the best part of his game by a mile. No argument here.

2. Given that he pretty much only shoots when he's both stationary and wide open, I wouldn't say he's *ahead* of schedule in developing his shot. The only encouraging thing is that he's willing to shoot when open which frankly he's probably getting more credit for than he deserves because Magic fans have had to watch Fultz do his thing for the last several years.

Black this Season
61-119 FG with 0 dribbles: .512 FG%
34-84 FG dribbling at least 1 time: .404 FG%

Only 4 of his 73 3PT attempts this season have been off the dribble.

3. His playmaking is as close to non-existent as it gets. 82 assists in 980 minutes for a guard? He's 279th in the NBA in Assist Percentage.

He only touches the ball 13.5 times per game in the front court, 11th best on the team. He's 6th in time of possession and average seconds per touch.

[pepe1991]

Black skills as guard in nba are all theoretical one right now

[basketballRob]

Black has got a loads of burn in his rookie season, our weak guard rotation is what actually works in his favor. Only skill he showcased so far is ability to defend. Like mentioned Raja Bell, but without shooting.

Lol. Raja Bell was 24 in his rookie season.

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[p0peye]

Black has got a loads of burn in his rookie season, our weak guard rotation is what actually works in his favor. Only skill he showcased so far is ability to defend. Like mentioned Raja Bell, but without shooting.

Lol. Raja Bell was 24 in his rookie season.

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Yeah, well hard to lookup from the phone in dentist office, but thanks. Anyway, I wasn't comparing their age. I'd love to compare him to Shaun Livingston, but he is not him.

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The problem with making proclamations on Black (sans playing time opportunity or not) is that he is nowhere near a finished product. The other issue is that there is no vet guard on the roster worth a damn that he can take cues from. This is why everyone was pissed off that they kept Fultz around forever and never found a better alternative while continuing to pay Cole.

It's a twofold dumb situation.

You are forgoing AB's development by not acquiring a vet pg, not prioritizing Paolo/Franz development, AND having already devalued Fultz into merely expiring money. Good GM's would have recognized these implications 1.5 seasons ahead of time.

The correct decision should have been acquiring a vet point guard 1-1.5 seasons ago and moved Fultz for SOMETHING before a contract season expiring contract. Anthony Black is a point guard that happens to have enough size and defensive versatility that he can be on the court in multiple situations. He isnt exempt from being mediocre to bad in his rookie season as most are dependent on their role and what they are tasked with. There is no chance Mosely is throwing him into heavy minutes with Suggs,Franz,Paolo,etc as guys that are also figuring things out still if he absolutely doesn't have to. Jett is the living example of that with Gary Harris still around.

[pepe1991]

The problem with making proclamations on Black (sans playing time opportunity or not) is that he is nowhere near a finished product. The other issue is that there is no vet guard on the roster worth a damn that he can take cues from. This is why everyone was pissed off that they kept Fultz around forever and never found a better alternative while continuing to pay Cole.

It's a twofold dumb situation. You are forgoing AB's development by not acquiring a vet pg, not prioritizing Paolo/Franz development, AND having already devalued Fultz into merely expiring money. Good GM's would have recognized these implications 1.5 seasons ahead of time.

Main problem is that he doesn't play PG.

Like, you won't learn how to be basketball player off tips from a veteran during shootarounds if you never actually go there and play that.

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The problem with making proclamations on Black (sans playing time opportunity or not) is that he is nowhere near a finished product. The other issue is that there is no vet guard on the roster worth a damn that he can take cues from. This is why everyone was pissed off that they kept Fultz around forever and never found a better alternative while continuing to pay Cole.

It's a twofold dumb situation. You are forgoing AB's development by not acquiring a vet pg, not prioritizing Paolo/Franz development, AND having already devalued Fultz into merely expiring money. Good GM's would have recognized these implications 1.5 seasons ahead of time.

Main problem is that he doesn't play PG.

Like, you won't learn how to be basketball player off tips from a veteran during shootarounds if you never actually go there and play that.

Says who? Hes a **** point guard and has been his entire career up to this point.

He's just in a situation that Mosely isnt going to give him the keys to the offense if he doesn't have to.

You are fooling yourself if you think this FO drafted this dude to guard shooting guards and Forwards instead of being a matchup nightmare for 99% of the league. The main learning curve for him is contributing on offense WITH the ball and not being this off-ball guard that everyone expects him to be relegated to.

Whats the best way to develop those skills?

Option A - learn under a vet that knows how to manage a game well and be a focal piece of the offense.
Option B - get a bunch of minutes in the starting lineup and learn through mistakes for the first few seasons (see Suggs)

Orlando went with dumb option C where he is doing neither, where they aren't developing him OR helping the team by rolling out Fultz and Cole for the majority of minutes. It doesnt help the team and doesnt equate to anything long term.

[Magic#1]

When do we have enough NBA data to change our development expectations? I expect neither of us would say AB is a finished product. He's already in the top 20% of NBA defenders. He's ahead of schedule in developing a shot. His playmaking is... on schedule? PGs are notoriously slow developers as the NBA game is much faster.

1. Black's defense is already good and has the chance to be very good. He's big and also quick defensively, a potentially great combo. That's the best part of his game by a mile. No argument here.

2. Given that he pretty much only shoots when he's both stationary and wide open, I wouldn't say he's *ahead* of schedule in developing his shot. The only encouraging thing is that he's willing to shoot when open which frankly he's probably getting more credit for than he deserves because Magic fans have had to watch Fultz do his thing for the last several years.

Black this Season
61-119 FG with 0 dribbles: .512 FG%
34-84 FG dribbling at least 1 time: .404 FG%

Only 4 of his 73 3PT attempts this season have been off the dribble.

3. His playmaking is as close to non-existent as it gets. 82 assists in 980 minutes for a guard? He's 279th in the NBA in Assist Percentage.

He only touches the ball 13.5 times per game in the front court, 11th best on the team. He's 6th in time of possession and average seconds per touch.

Completely agree with this assessment. Right now, he has met defensive expectations. Possibly exceeded them in 3-point shooting, but definitely underachieved on playmaking and shot creation. Maybe it's the gameplan, or maybe he just isn't there yet. To me, it's that more that he isn't there yet. AB may still prove worthy of his draft position, but right now our team would be better if we had taken Wallace and either Hawkins, Dick or Podz. Wallace is looking like he could become a very, very good player.

[Knightro]

Says who? Hes a **** point guard and has been his entire career up to this point.

He's just in a situation that Mosely isnt going to give him the keys to the offense if he doesn't have to.

You are fooling yourself if you think this FO drafted this dude to guard shooting guards and Forwards instead of being a matchup nightmare for 99% of the league. The main learning curve for him is contributing on offense WITH the ball and not being this off-ball guard that everyone expects him to be relegated to.

Whats the best way to develop those skills?

Option A - learn under a vet that knows how to manage a game well and be a focal piece of the offense.
Option B - get a bunch of minutes in the starting lineup and learn through mistakes for the first few seasons (see Suggs)

Orlando went with dumb option C where he is doing neither, where they aren't developing him OR helping the team by rolling out Fultz and Cole for the majority of minutes. It doesnt help the team and doesnt equate to anything long term.

It's almost like people knew this would happen back in April before the draft...

The point I'm trying to make is...

We're not going to know if Anthony Black or Cason Wallace or Amen Thompson are going to potentially be ready to take over as the starting point guard for Fultz or even as the backup point guard for Anthony in 2024-2025 if they spend their entire rookie season playing off the ball at the 2 and 3.

And as it stands right now, that is the only way (barring injuries) that they'd get on the court next season if Fultz and Anthony are both here (which I expect them to both be).

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Says who? Hes a **** point guard and has been his entire career up to this point.

He's just in a situation that Mosely isnt going to give him the keys to the offense if he doesn't have to.

You are fooling yourself if you think this FO drafted this dude to guard shooting guards and Forwards instead of being a matchup nightmare for 99% of the league. The main learning curve for him is contributing on offense WITH the ball and not being this off-ball guard that everyone expects him to be relegated to.

Whats the best way to develop those skills?

Option A - learn under a vet that knows how to manage a game well and be a focal piece of the offense.
Option B - get a bunch of minutes in the starting lineup and learn through mistakes for the first few seasons (see Suggs)

Orlando went with dumb option C where he is doing neither, where they aren't developing him OR helping the team by rolling out Fultz and Cole for the majority of minutes. It doesnt help the team and doesnt equate to anything long term.

It's almost like people knew this would happen back in April before the draft...

The point I'm trying to make is...

We're not going to know if Anthony Black or Cason Wallace or Amen Thompson are going to potentially be ready to take over as the starting point guard for Fultz or even as the backup point guard for Anthony in 2024-2025 if they spend their entire rookie season playing off the ball at the 2 and 3.

And as it stands right now, that is the only way (barring injuries) that they'd get on the court next season if Fultz and Anthony are both here (which I expect them to both be).

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Right. I didnt put it past them. We knew it was going to happen.

With that being said, I just don't like this back and forth about Black being a bust or not up to the task compared to other rookies. Why? because our FO is run by idiots when it comes to specific aspects of development, asset management, and roster building.

Cason Wallace looks good in limited minutes because his role is obvious. He isnt shoehorned into a rotation tasked with an extremely limited role or with a roster that doesnt have arguably the best player in the league right now. Bitching about Black not having crazy potential upside makes no sense.

Playing a bunch of backup guards and pretending they are prioritizing winning over development of a #6 pick regardless of whoever it might be is frankly stupid short sighted bull. Fine, you can make the argument it would be better to get a vet to win games now... That didnt happen so what is the alternative? Fultz minutes? Cole minutes? Kevon Harris?

[bigdogdylan5]

Yes if the Magic can reasonably get a proven player at the PG for next year they should do it in a heart beat. Only free agent I am possibly looking at is Jrue assuming he opts out. I think he would be perfect as he can bring the ball up the floor and can cut and hit jumpers while Paolo and Franz run the offense. If Tyus Jones is what we are looking at unless we can sign him to a 1+1 team option, I think I am out. Would just rather see what Black can give us. Trade who the hell knows and it depends what we have to give up but should pursue odd PG out in Atlanta and other high end options but again I think people think the front office can snap their fingers and a good PG option will just appear.

I don’t subscribe to Black’s rookie season has been wasted. I think we could have just let him loose but I feel like then we wouldn’t be in contention for a 6th seed then. There is no way to develop Black and put the best basketball team on the floor. He has made some mistakes he can learn from and him trying to get in the lineup him busting his ass and staying after practice all been positives. The shot does look better. It’s going to be a tough decision for the front office as this team is just begging for a point guard that can shoot respectably. Look at this rotation if we get Jrue or something similar:

Jrue/Black
Suggs/Cole
Franz/Ingles or Jett
Paolo/Isaac
Goga/Carter

That looks damn near balanced as having Jrue allows us to play Goga and not have two non shooters out there starting. Pushing Carter to the bench where he can provide more spacing. Carter might be traded to as Mo Wagner has pretty much outplayed him minus maybe defense and rebounding.