Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV "Re-Building" Edition)

[Def Swami]

I really like all of our hires today. Especially the hire of Rob Murphy in scouting. He had a good rep at Syracuse.

I also warmed up to that Tyreke Evans idea. I think there's potential there. Especially for merely JJ and Harrington. Let Jameer sit on the bench.

[ADRajX]

Blatche is a cancer.

I don't get the rationale with some people wanting to try and improve this team. We want them bad and to give prospects chances. Not Blatche.

I'd give Oden a one year deal or more likely a camp invite for giggles but wouldn't expect much.

Andray effin Blatche?

Holy hell I've read it all now.

Hey Andrew, study under Andray. He'll show you the way.

Can we get Ricky Davis here while we're at it?!?

??

DJRajx posted we should grab him and Oden lol

Nothing funny or crazy about it actually if you take the time to understand... I think your eyes focused on the names Blatche and Oden in my post and ignored everything else... but I'll try to explain my original post.

Oden is a low risk/high reward player, and he's still young ... and Andray Blatche is the same as well (low risk, high reward due to his less than stellar reputation)... If we brought in Oden and Blatche, the Magic would bring them in as cheaply as possible obviously.... Both Oden and Blatche have a chip on their shoulder and something to prove... Blatche is a very good versatile offensive player when his head is screwed on straight (6'11 and can put up All-Star numbers)... you can't deny Blatche's abilities (that's no laughing matter jareth)... Miami and San Antonio are looking to acquire him cheaply (hmm).

And I'm sorry but the Washington Wizards are not the best ran organization when it comes to developing players and their characters... some players, like Blatche, might need a scenery and an environment change... under a new GM, Vaughn, and a new Magic coaching staff, Blatche might get it (or grow up) on the court and in the lockerroom... players can change you know... that's why I said "roll the dice" with Evans, Blatche, and Oden ... I also said going after Evans in a trade is key for all of this to occur, and surrounding the rest of the roster with young defensive-minded athletic players at each position (which we are already doing at the moment in a way).

With Evans all-star capabilities (finally a star player who can create his own shot), Blatche's all-star potential (can create his own shot via face-up or in the low-block), Oden's risk/reward health factor, and the rest of the squad being young and developing (O'Quinn, Nicholson, etc...) under a new coaching staff, we could expedite the entire rebuilding/youth process for this team and get back into the midst of a high playoff seeds in the East after a few growing pains & consistency in building team chemistry.

Sorry if you disagree with me or don't see the potential of changes being involved. Don't let your perception of Blatche and Oden cloud potential ideas. And don't think I don't know all about Blatche's trouble, I acknowledge them, but I don't overreact to them:

(from the thread...) We should go after Blatche
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1199984

Blatche is a knucklehead... but you can't deny his talent... when Arenas went down a few years ago, he stepped up and carried the offensive load for the team.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_ ... ay-blatche (from January)
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_ ... ay-blatche (when given minutes)

Unfortunately his attitude is not the best... one of the reasons why the Wizards didn't play him at times and he sat on the bench a lot.

With that all said... whichever team signs him (most likely for the vet min) is going to get a STEAL!... the guy is very skilled and can put up All-Star type numbers if given starter minutes and sufficient plays on offense.

We would be stupid to not consider signing him at the very least... San Antonio and Miami are looking to sign him outright.

He's a knucklehead (aka immature), not a habitual criminal... people can change under different coaching staffs and teams... it'd be stupid for us to ignore him and his skill-set.

Notice how you were the only one who commented, acknowledges, and objects to my post with constant posts the past page or so. So obviously it wasn't that big of a deal to other posters I guess (I'm insignificant *cries* lol). But I defended my opinion nonetheless. We can agree to disagree (or laugh) if you want.

[JarethCutestory]

If Blatche is the answer I don't want to know the question.

[Def Swami]

If Blatche is the answer I don't want to know the question.

Answer to what?

He'd merely be brought in as a low risk, possibly high reward player. What's the harm in that?

[NEM]

i dont believe that evans rumor... why didnt we accept that? we clearly get the better end of that deal...

[Skin]

i dont believe that evans rumor... why didnt we accept that? we clearly get the better end of that deal...

Yeah, it was one of those Magical sourced rumors that get everyone to feel good only to not ever happen. He's one of the biggest trolls around.

[JarethCutestory]

He's a power forward version of Ricky Davis. Consumed by stats and getting his he would bring absolutely nothing to the team.

What would be his purpose? To be our long term answer at PF? Wins? (lol). I don't get why we would want him. Because he put up some numbers and would come cheap? Ok?

Miami wants him because of that reason and it makes sense for a contending team who is capped out to look for cheap players.

Not a rebuilding ORL team with young PFs that I'd hate to see pick up bad habits.

I'm equally as confused as to why you can't grasp this concept.

[ADRajX]

If Blatche is the answer I don't want to know the question.

... well anyway I can tell you didn't read my original post or the reply post (and you replied seconds after that one, so you obviously couldn't have read it so quickly and derived a proper response or rebuttal/opinion to it). Quick reply: No, I never said Blatche was the answer. I'm not wasting my time re-re-explaining it again. Sorry bud.

Oh well.



Thanks VGOSWAMI.

[MagicStarwipe]

Blatche isn't a Rob Hennigan type of player to say the least. Doesn't fit into the culture we are trying to build.

[ADRajX]

He's a power forward version of Ricky Davis. Consumed by stats and getting his he would bring absolutely nothing to the team.

What would be his purpose? To be our long term answer at PF? Wins? (lol). I don't get why we would want him. Because he put up some numbers and would come cheap? Ok?

Miami wants him because of that reason and it makes sense for a contending team who is capped out to look for cheap players.

Not a rebuilding ORL team with young PFs that I'd hate to see pick up bad habits.

I'm equally as confused as to why you can't grasp this concept.

Yes this happened a couple years ago when he was like 22...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDzRvZcFn48[/youtube]

...get over it.

I would like to have him and develop him around Evans imo... he's not a primary piece or "answer". ...He's a very skilled offensive big man, anyone who's seen him play can attest to that. Yeah it's not all about stats, but he can sure put up some big ones... and that's because he has very good footwork and face-up skills... he's a very versatile big man.

Miami and San Antonio wants him because he would come in cheap. Let's be honest, if Blatche was a model citizen in the locker room and wasn't put on the bench on the Wizards the past season or so, his $ value and contract would be much higher. Players of his skill-set make way more money on other teams. He comes cheap because he put himself in that position in the market with bad decisions on the Washington Wizards. He might need a fresh start under a new GM and coaching staff. He was young and immature.

[JarethCutestory]

Anybody else want to take a crack at explaining why Blatche isn't a good fit?

[TDJacksonville]

we dont need to add ANY god damn forwards on this team nor do we really need a center with all the Powerforward/Centers we have on the roster.

lets focus on Getting a Nice PG instead

[JarethCutestory]

Again I ask you, why does Orlando need Blatche?

Outside of your hypothetical scenario where we acquire Tyreke Evans? And then what?

Evans and Blatche take us to the promised land? 8th seed city at best?

Am I making sense now or will you post YouTube videos next to prove me wrong?

[ADRajX]

Anybody else want to take a crack at explaining why Blatche isn't a good fit?

You haven't honestly stated anything reasonable as to why you don't want him, while I have listed and re-listed my points to you.

But yeah let's just agree to disagree at this point. Save ourselves the trouble and pages. It's not going anywhere at this point in this thread. Okay discussion though.

Again I ask you, why does Orlando need Blatche?

Outside of your hypothetical scenario where we acquire Tyreke Evans? And then what?

Evans and Blatche take us to the promised land? 8th seed city at best?

Am I making sense now or will you post YouTube videos next to prove me wrong?

Through proper chemistry building and growing pains with a young defensive-minded roster, yes it can.

[JarethCutestory]

Lol my sarcasm probably doesn't translate well to the Internet. I really don't mean to sound like a jerk if I do. I just couldn't disagree with you anymore buddy.

But it's discussion no less so I enjoy it.

[TDJacksonville]

Anybody else want to take a crack at explaining why Blatche isn't a good fit?

well hes a character issue(Henny doesnt seem to like those), and the Biggest ISSUE is he Plays PF which we HAVE NO NEED for.

[JarethCutestory]

I haven't? REALLY? After I just got done saying those nice things.

Goodness I'm glad we stay on the Internet where we belong and faaaaar away from NBA front offices.

[TDJacksonville]

lets not trade for evans. make a deal for PG thomas from them instead

[JarethCutestory]

Anybody else want to take a crack at explaining why Blatche isn't a good fit?

You haven't honestly stated anything reasonable as to why you don't want him, while I have listed and re-listed my points to you.

But yeah let's just agree to disagree at this point. Save ourselves the trouble and pages. It's not going anywhere at this point in this thread. Okay discussion though.

Again I ask you, why does Orlando need Blatche?

Outside of your hypothetical scenario where we acquire Tyreke Evans? And then what?

Evans and Blatche take us to the promised land? 8th seed city at best?

Am I making sense now or will you post YouTube videos next to prove me wrong?

Through proper chemistry building and growing pains with a young defensive-minded roster, yes it can.

Ok now I'm really done. Love you ttyl.

[ADRajX]

Lol my sarcasm probably doesn't translate well to the Internet. I really don't mean to sound like a jerk if I do. I just couldn't disagree with you anymore buddy.

But it's discussion no less so I enjoy it.

All good. You're a good poster. We just disagree on Blatche (and Oden). No big deal. Listen I'm not the biggest fan of Blatche's character or knuckleheaded-ness... I think I'm just the type of person to give a player like that "another chance in a new scenery"... a fresh start basically... I look at the guy's skill-set and abilities first... and hey, if we get Oden and Blatche on the cheap (which is pretty much what will happen if any team signs them) and they don't pan out well on the court or in the lockerroom (or due to health concerns), then just cut them loose because they were cheap to acquire. Low risk, high reward. That's all.

But I will say this. I'm a huge fan of Evans. I would definitely trade for him.

I'll leave it at that, finally lol.