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BadMofoPimp wrote:TDJacksonville wrote:hey BMP Terrance Jones isnt even Half the Player BBD is and has a Rap Sheet now
I didn't even know BBD could rap? Got samples?
BadMofoPimp wrote:TDJacksonville wrote:hey BMP Terrance Jones isnt even Half the Player BBD is and has a Rap Sheet now
I didn't even know BBD could rap? Got samples?
To Dwight Howard, our trickiest investment of the summer of 2013. I covered every reason why I'd be afraid to pay him max money last May, but kudos to Dwight for making a clever basketball decision. He wagered on a top-10 player (James Harden); a top-five GM (Daryl Morey); a good owner (Leslie Alexander); the chance to re-create what he had with the 2009 Magic (who surrounded him with quality outside shooters who opened up the paint for him); and a city that gives him a decent chance to break Calvin Murphy's "most kids by the most women" NBA record (in progress). He also avoided a potential train wreck in Los Angeles. And he picked a football-first city that won't obsess over everything he's doing (something he clearly can't handle).
Optimus_Steel wrote:To Dwight Howard, our trickiest investment of the summer of 2013. I covered every reason why I'd be afraid to pay him max money last May, but kudos to Dwight for making a clever basketball decision. He wagered on a top-10 player (James Harden); a top-five GM (Daryl Morey); a good owner (Leslie Alexander); the chance to re-create what he had with the 2009 Magic (who surrounded him with quality outside shooters who opened up the paint for him); and a city that gives him a decent chance to break Calvin Murphy's "most kids by the most women" NBA record (in progress). He also avoided a potential train wreck in Los Angeles. And he picked a football-first city that won't obsess over everything he's doing (something he clearly can't handle).
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/952 ... run-part-1
trebone wrote:BadMofoPimp wrote:TDJacksonville wrote:hey BMP Terrance Jones isnt even Half the Player BBD is and has a Rap Sheet now
I didn't even know BBD could rap? Got samples?
Like the new sig
To the Orlando Magic, who seemed totally screwed by the Dwightmare as recently as 12 months ago … only now, they're earning e-mails like this one (courtesy of Fort Wayne reader Jared Benz): "How come no one has revisited how Orlando somehow, against all odds, managed to not only win, but completely pillage everyone else involved in the Dwight Howard trade?"
Let's see … they gave up one year of Howard and ended up with a promising starting center (Nikola Vucevic), a starting 2-guard (Arron Afflalo) and a semi-promising swingman (Mo Harkless) … they dumped Jason Richardson's semi-unseemly contract on Philly … they picked up three first-rounders (Denver's 2014 pick, the Lakers' 2017 pick and a far-away-in-the-future Philly pick) … and they worsened their 2013 team enough that they landed the no. 2 overall pick (Victor Oladipo). Jared is right, that was an outright pillaging! At the time, I criticized the Magic for not getting Andrew Bynum and made multiple jokes about then-new Orlando GM Rob Hennigan being overmatched. You know what? I'm giving myself a quote
To me, for doing such a mediocre impersonation of a wannabe NBA GM in this column. I wouldn't have done any better than most of these failed guys. Well, except for David Kahn. I would have done better than him. Anyway, combine Orlando's Howard haul with its Harris-Redick hijacking and Hennigan could start putting "Sam Presti 2.0" on his business cards. Let's hope he doesn't trade Oladipo for 20 cents on the dollar in four years. (Sorry, I had to.)
Optimus_Steel wrote:2nd part of Simmons article:To the Orlando Magic, who seemed totally screwed by the Dwightmare as recently as 12 months ago … only now, they're earning e-mails like this one (courtesy of Fort Wayne reader Jared Benz): "How come no one has revisited how Orlando somehow, against all odds, managed to not only win, but completely pillage everyone else involved in the Dwight Howard trade?"
Let's see … they gave up one year of Howard and ended up with a promising starting center (Nikola Vucevic), a starting 2-guard (Arron Afflalo) and a semi-promising swingman (Mo Harkless) … they dumped Jason Richardson's semi-unseemly contract on Philly … they picked up three first-rounders (Denver's 2014 pick, the Lakers' 2017 pick and a far-away-in-the-future Philly pick) … and they worsened their 2013 team enough that they landed the no. 2 overall pick (Victor Oladipo). Jared is right, that was an outright pillaging! At the time, I criticized the Magic for not getting Andrew Bynum and made multiple jokes about then-new Orlando GM Rob Hennigan being overmatched. You know what? I'm giving myself a quoteTo me, for doing such a mediocre impersonation of a wannabe NBA GM in this column. I wouldn't have done any better than most of these failed guys. Well, except for David Kahn. I would have done better than him. Anyway, combine Orlando's Howard haul with its Harris-Redick hijacking and Hennigan could start putting "Sam Presti 2.0" on his business cards. Let's hope he doesn't trade Oladipo for 20 cents on the dollar in four years. (Sorry, I had to.)
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/952 ... run-part-2
TDJacksonville wrote:a good PG is worth more than a Stretch PF with Meh Defense.
i know if i was Building a team from the Ground Up id take Westbrook over Love.
KingRobb02 wrote:TDJacksonville wrote:a good PG is worth more than a Stretch PF with Meh Defense.
i know if i was Building a team from the Ground Up id take Westbrook over Love.
When healthy, he was a better rebounder than Dwight and the best PF in the league, but I know what you're trying to say. Like I said, I'm pretty split on that move. Otherwise, Presti seems severely overrated around the message boards. The plan was basically, luck into a once in a generation player, wait for him to develop. Win 55+ games per year as long as he's in his prime. They will be great again this year, and he will continue to look like a genius.
TDJacksonville wrote:KingRobb02 wrote:TDJacksonville wrote:a good PG is worth more than a Stretch PF with Meh Defense.
i know if i was Building a team from the Ground Up id take Westbrook over Love.
When healthy, he was a better rebounder than Dwight and the best PF in the league, but I know what you're trying to say. Like I said, I'm pretty split on that move. Otherwise, Presti seems severely overrated around the message boards. The plan was basically, luck into a once in a generation player, wait for him to develop. Win 55+ games per year as long as he's in his prime. They will be great again this year, and he will continue to look like a genius.
being the Best PF in the League doesnt mean much to me. the bigs this decade arent really good as say from the 60, 70s and 80s and even 90s. i mean i would consider Duncan Better than Love as a PF.
KingRobb02 wrote:Optimus_Steel wrote:2nd part of Simmons article:To the Orlando Magic, who seemed totally screwed by the Dwightmare as recently as 12 months ago … only now, they're earning e-mails like this one (courtesy of Fort Wayne reader Jared Benz): "How come no one has revisited how Orlando somehow, against all odds, managed to not only win, but completely pillage everyone else involved in the Dwight Howard trade?"
Let's see … they gave up one year of Howard and ended up with a promising starting center (Nikola Vucevic), a starting 2-guard (Arron Afflalo) and a semi-promising swingman (Mo Harkless) … they dumped Jason Richardson's semi-unseemly contract on Philly … they picked up three first-rounders (Denver's 2014 pick, the Lakers' 2017 pick and a far-away-in-the-future Philly pick) … and they worsened their 2013 team enough that they landed the no. 2 overall pick (Victor Oladipo). Jared is right, that was an outright pillaging! At the time, I criticized the Magic for not getting Andrew Bynum and made multiple jokes about then-new Orlando GM Rob Hennigan being overmatched. You know what? I'm giving myself a quoteTo me, for doing such a mediocre impersonation of a wannabe NBA GM in this column. I wouldn't have done any better than most of these failed guys. Well, except for David Kahn. I would have done better than him. Anyway, combine Orlando's Howard haul with its Harris-Redick hijacking and Hennigan could start putting "Sam Presti 2.0" on his business cards. Let's hope he doesn't trade Oladipo for 20 cents on the dollar in four years. (Sorry, I had to.)
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/952 ... run-part-2
This still seems silly to me. We had the worst record in the league last year and will be just as bad this year. Saying we won that trade is like saying wins don't matter. Can't really count Oladipo in the trade since that is kind of like saying the Cavs traded Lebron for Kyrie. Us sucking would have happened whether Dwight left via free agency or got traded.
Also, if you look at Presti's moves the past few years he has done the following:
-traded Eric Bledsoe for nothing,
-vetoed the Tyson Chandler trade
-traded for Kendrick Perkins
-gave Perkins a 4 year/$50 million extension
-waived Nate Robinson
-The horrible Harden trade
-signed Derek Fisher 3 times
I give him credit for drafting Harden and Ibaka, but I'm a bit torn on the Russell Westbrook pick since they passed on Kevin Love to get him. Jeff Green over Noah seems kind of silly too. I know that other GMs passed on those guys as well, but if the Thunder are supposed to be the model, they should be catching these guys that everyone else misses. Drafting Durant isn't really good management since every team would have done the same. Simmons gets kind of hyperbolic at times.
TDJacksonville wrote:i agree hes overated by alot of people. it doesnt hurt that he had gotten control of the team when they were a lottery team and then the coach played guys out of Position like Durant at SG, Westbrook at PG(though he developed into one.
Neon1 wrote:TDJacksonville wrote:i agree hes overated by alot of people. it doesnt hurt that he had gotten control of the team when they were a lottery team and then the coach played guys out of Position like Durant at SG, Westbrook at PG(though he developed into one.
When you look at Presti's history overall, he gets a pass for massive bust big men seemingly year after year, after year.
