Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LV - NBA Draft Edition)

OrlChamps2030 · Post #1121 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:05 pm

Even if Bledsoe doesnt pan out as the full time starting PG, he coud be a super sixth-man off the bench at both guard positions. Or he could be traded.

j-ragg · Post #1122 » by **j-ragg** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:06 pm

@basketballtalk: DeMarcus Cousins agent wants max extension this summer… or a trade http://t.co/cE6wnYkcBe

DMC gonna DMC...

Post #1123 » by **Def Swami** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:26 pm

Josh Robbins ‏@JoshuaBRobbins 6m
@ryenarussillo The #Orlando #Magic have next-to-nil interest in trading up to No. 1 in the 2013 NBA Draft.

RookieStar · Post #1124 » by **RookieStar** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:32 pm

Def Swami wrote:
Josh Robbins ‏@JoshuaBRobbins 6m
@ryenarussillo The #Orlando #Magic have next-to-nil interest in trading up to No. 1 in the 2013 NBA Draft.

well duh!! in this crappy draft with no sure top 1? why would anyone?

Post #1125 » by **Def Swami** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:50 pm

Highlights from Chad Ford's chat

Andrew Z. (Struthers, OH)
How much would you say McLemore is slipping?

Chad Ford (1:08 PM)
Hard to say. He's not been impressive in workouts and his representation situation is a huge, huge mess. McLemore isn't being projected in the best light which is a shame because he's a really good young man. He's just naive and he doesn't understand what it take at the next level and he has people advising him who don't know either. But the talent is there. If a team believes they can guide and mold McLemore, change the situation around him, they'll take him. But that's easier said than done.

Dan (Ocala, Fl)
So if you were drafting for the Magic, you would take??

Chad Ford (1:11 PM)
Oladipo. I think they're leaning the same way from the sound of things. The McLemore workout/interview wasn't great. Don't think they're sold on the PGs. Obviously Noel is a possibility if the Cavs pass on him at No. 1.

Vishal (Orlando)
Is there a chance that a team looking for point guard help drafts CJ McCollum before Michael Carter Williams and Trey Burke? I think the Magic would be a good fit.

Chad Ford (1:21 PM)
Maybe. I think the Suns like McCollum more than Burke or Williams. Ditto for the Blazers. Think the Kings prefer Carter-Williams. Pistons are neck-and-neck with Burke/Carter-Williams. Have heard the Magic and Pelicans both may prefer Carter-Williams.

Jo Jo (Houston, Texas)
Good afternoon, Mr. Ford!Who's is in play for the Mavs pick (what are you hearing)? Pistons, Cavs, others? What is it going to cost besides taking on Marion?

Chad Ford (1:30 PM)
I've also heard the Knicks, Thunder and Cavs. Cost is either a 2014 first rounder or taking back Marion into room. By the way, some teams think that the Mavs may already have a deal as the trade talk has silenced in Dallas the past few days. The Mavs can't officially announce anything until after they make their draft selection.

IGotDaMagicInMe · Post #1126 » by **IGotDaMagicInMe** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:54 pm

Jo Jo (Houston, Texas)
Good afternoon, Mr. Ford!Who's is in play for the Mavs pick (what are you hearing)? Pistons, Cavs, others? What is it going to cost besides taking on Marion?

Chad Ford (1:30 PM)
I've also heard the Knicks, Thunder and Cavs. Cost is either a 2014 first rounder or taking back Marion into room. By the way, some teams think that the Mavs may already have a deal as the trade talk has silenced in Dallas the past few days. The Mavs can't officially announce anything until after they make their draft selection.

What no mention of Orlando?

IGotDaMagicInMe · Post #1127 » by **IGotDaMagicInMe** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:56 pm

backasswards wrote:Maybe it's just me, but I like AA more for this team than Bledsoe.

AA has such a bad rep because he tried being the man when that's not his game. I think AA would thrive once BBD comes back and Tobias gets the ball more in his hands.

I don't neccessarily agree that AA > Bledsoe for this team, but AA does get a bad rep for trying to be the man. In a way doesnt that mean he ISNT a good fit for the team though? I guess maybe if Vaughn would stop encouraging him to be our go to guy maybe he would do better. . .

fendilim · Post #1128 » by **fendilim** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:01 pm

MagicFan32 wrote:according to this forum, and twitter on deadline day, hennigan was an idiot for trading JJ for Harris and Lamb because he didn't get a first round pick

at this point, harris would atleast be a top 3 pick in this draft, possibly better. i mean would anyone here trade him for any single prospect?

While i do agreee that Harris could easily be a top 3 pick in this draft. The comparison is just nonsense. You already kmow what Harris can contribute and two, Harris is already has a year under his belt of training to improve on skills he has to work on.

yoyojw17 · Post #1129 » by **yoyojw17** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:21 pm

I really like Andrew Nicholsen a lot.....but IF he has to be included in the afflalo/bledsoe trade.....what do you'll think of Mike Muscala?

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mike-Muscala-6520/

he seems to bring a lot of the things Andrew did (offensively) while also having a lot of the things that he needed to improve on (rebounding and defense).

londoncollin · Post #1130 » by **londoncollin** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:29 pm

IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:
Jo Jo (Houston, Texas)
Good afternoon, Mr. Ford!Who's is in play for the Mavs pick (what are you hearing)? Pistons, Cavs, others? What is it going to cost besides taking on Marion?

Chad Ford (1:30 PM)
I've also heard the Knicks, Thunder and Cavs. Cost is either a 2014 first rounder or taking back Marion into room. By the way, some teams think that the Mavs may already have a deal as the trade talk has silenced in Dallas the past few days. The Mavs can't officially announce anything until after they make their draft selection.

What no mention of Orlando?

I don't see how the Knicks or Thunder could take on salary.

Noonskadoodle · Post #1131 » by **Noonskadoodle** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:03 pm

OT: But anybody following this Aaron Hernandez (New England Patriot) story?

They have helicopters following his every move like OJ:

http://www.myfoxboston.com/category/246 ... livestream

Post #1132 » by **Def Swami** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:53 pm

Mark Heisler ‏@MarkHeisler 1m
OK, it's not speculation any more: #Celtics, #Clippers agreed to deal(s). David Stern goes on ESPN Radio, makes it clear #NBA won't allow it

Basketball reasons...

Post #1133 » by **Def Swami** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:54 pm

Probasketballdraft ‏@Probballdraft 12m
Dallas pick is available and Cavs appear to have parameters of a deal in place to move up from 19 for it. Target is Sergey Karasev.

meatwad4343 · Post #1134 » by **meatwad4343** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:00 pm

Def Swami wrote:
Probasketballdraft ‏@Probballdraft 12m
Dallas pick is available and Cavs appear to have parameters of a deal in place to move up from 19 for it. Target is Sergey Karasev.

looks like noel/len will be the pick if thats true

BelgianMagic · Post #1135 » by **BelgianMagic** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:08 pm

More bout stern by LAC beat writer:

Brad Turner ‏@BA_Turner
NBA commish David Stern on Stephen A. Smith radio show about the deal:"I would say in the language of diplomacy that the teams are aware that the collective bargaining agreement doesn’t authorize trades involving coaches contracts "

"The only consideration that can be done here in players transactions are other players, draft picks and a very limited amount of cash."

"But, coaches contacts don’t qualify as extra consideration or acceptable consideration in player transactions."

"The teams know that, it has been confirmed to them. What we wouldn’t prohibit..what the rules wouldn’t prohibit.Let me start again.what the rules won’t allow"

rcklsscognition · Post #1136 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:17 pm

Damn, I was hoping to get that pick.

cedric76 · Post #1137 » by **cedric76** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:25 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:More bout stern by LAC beat writer:

Brad Turner ‏@BA_Turner
NBA commish David Stern on Stephen A. Smith radio show about the deal:"I would say in the language of diplomacy that the teams are aware that the collective bargaining agreement doesn’t authorize trades involving coaches contracts "

"The only consideration that can be done here in players transactions are other players, draft picks and a very limited amount of cash."

"But, coaches contacts don’t qualify as extra consideration or acceptable consideration in player transactions."

"The teams know that, it has been confirmed to them. What we wouldn’t prohibit..what the rules wouldn’t prohibit.Let me start again.what the rules won’t allow"

I dont get it

They can do only one trade

Kg for dj+2 picks, that s it

Then they fire doc

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rcklsscognition · Post #1138 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:28 pm

This Boston stuff is getting old. Get it done or shut it down Stern.

KingRobb02 · Post #1139 » by **KingRobb02** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:30 pm

Zmill wrote:Even if Bledsoe doesnt pan out as the full time starting PG, he coud be a super sixth-man off the bench at both guard positions. Or he could be traded.

Does anyone here actually watch Bledsoe play? He just isn't a playmaker. He's basically a guy like Avery Bradley where people saw his height and assumed he would just be an athletic, defensive-minded PG once he "learned the game." If 2009 Turkoglu or even 2012 Redick was on the team I would be all for it because that would let Bledsoe be Bledsoe.

PeePee la Fritz · Post #1140 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:56 pm

I hate David Stern