Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV, Mods Close)

Tayswagzzz · Post #1141 » by **Tayswagzzz** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:40 am

DJRajX wrote:Warriors offering Monta Ellis and David Lee for Dwight Howard
http://www.iamagm.com/news/2012/03/10/w ... um=twitter
...The Warriors got nowhere when they recently tried to get Dwight Howard in a deal. A Warrior executive said the Magic turned down Monta Ellis and David Lee, with Orlando telling the Warriors it will only move Howard by Thursday’s trading deadline if it can get a “major player” in return. The only thing major about Ellis and Lee are their bloated contracts, with each pocketing about $11 million this season...

rcklsscognition · Post #1142 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:40 am

gp123 wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:Just read on ESPN Magic are offering Hedo and 2 1st rounders to anyone who will take them. Not sure if it was posted. Seems we're desperate and that is a move signalling Dwight is staying.

can you link?

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-120309-10/weekend-dime-latest-trade-deadline-chatter

Hedo Turkoglu, sources say, is the first name Orlando has been throwing out in trade discussions over the past week or so. Yet it's one thing to try to foist Turkoglu on a team that's trading for Howard and quite another to try to move Turkoglu, or any other vet in Howard's supporting cast, when Dwight himself isn't part of the deal.

Said another front-office source of the $18 million that Turkoglu is guaranteed over the next two seasons after this one: "They'd have to be willing to throw in at least two [future] first-round picks to get someone to take him."

ADRajX · Post #1143 » by **ADRajX** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:42 am

Tayswagzzz wrote:
DJRajX wrote:Warriors offering Monta Ellis and David Lee for Dwight Howard
http://www.iamagm.com/news/2012/03/10/w ... um=twitter
...The Warriors got nowhere when they recently tried to get Dwight Howard in a deal. A Warrior executive said the Magic turned down Monta Ellis and David Lee, with Orlando telling the Warriors it will only move Howard by Thursday’s trading deadline if it can get a “major player” in return. The only thing major about Ellis and Lee are their bloated contracts, with each pocketing about $11 million this season...

GS's front office are maddening and irritating to work with it seems

NW · Post #1144 » by NW » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:46 am

DJRajX wrote:
GS's front office are maddening and irritating to work with it seems

They made an offer. Orlando turned them down. But just because they did doesn't mean they should be in a hurry to send Ellis to Orlando.

RookieStar · Post #1145 » by **RookieStar** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:48 am

LOL at the only thing major about Ellis and Lee are their contracts

The Effect · Post #1146 » by **The Effect** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:52 am

God i cant wait for Mar. 16th

Post #1147 » by **ChosenSavior** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:52 am

Damn what a bummer. I come back from playing ball and I see nothing has happened so far. And LOL @ the offer Golden State presented to the Magic for Dwight.

Tayswagzzz · Post #1148 » by **Tayswagzzz** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:52 am

This makes me wonder if we've even discussed moving Jameer or JJ or even Anderson to any teams yet. Looks like we've been shopping Hedo for the most part, looks like we want to move him first before giving up any of our main assets.

Post #1149 » by **ChosenSavior** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:53 am

The Effect wrote:God i cant wait for Mar. 16th

Agreed. It will be nice to actually focus on basketball for once. This week is going to take forever to end.

ADRajX · Post #1150 » by **ADRajX** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:54 am

NW wrote:
DJRajX wrote:
GS's front office are maddening and irritating to work with it seems

They made an offer. Orlando turned them down. But just because they did doesn't mean they should be in a hurry to send Ellis to Orlando.

I understand what you're saying... but don't take offense to what I said, I enjoy your posts and your outside opinion as a Warriors fan... but I based my comment/frustration not just on the link I posted now, but from the previous report (last week) that mentioned Golden State would only trade Ellis if they received Howard in return somewhere in the previous Thread parts. That too me (and too other posters who have mentioned it before me) is asinine imo. I'm not the only Magic fan that has the same sentiments either. We're all walking on eggshells here as Magic fans (due to Otis and Dwight), so don't take my comments to heart... yes you're right, you're FO offered something and we (thankfully) turned it down... but to me your FO is just crazy to think Ellis is worth Howard, let alone Ellis + Lee. And our GM is not exactly Mr. Reliable. We're worried he's going to pull off a terrible trade, whether it involves Dwight, or not.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #1151 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:56 am

ChosenSavior wrote:Damn what a bummer. I come back from playing ball and I see nothing has happened so far. And LOL @ the offer Golden State presented to the Magic for Dwight.

I can't wait to get back so I can play ball anytime of the year. I hate it here. Where do u play at?

Reverse_Angle · Post #1152 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:57 am

eyriq wrote:
Reverse_Angle wrote:
gp123 wrote:I am surprised they want to deal bogut...

i mean he's injured but come on, he's the piece you build around. maybe they know something about his health that we don't

He is a piece that would keep your team around 8th seed forever.

I don't agree with this at all. He is a premier defensive anchor in the league. You can put 2nd tier playmaking and shot creation around him, alongside some great shooting, and contend imo. Injuries derailed Milwaukee's chances, but I really liked the team they put together.

bogut was drafted in 2005, we are in 2012. Which of the pieces you stated that MIL was able to sign in the last 7 years? I think that is a telling sign. Even with those pieces, they are at best ATL.

Bogut is the defensive alter ego of Al Jefferson.

ADRajX · Post #1153 » by **ADRajX** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:58 am

If this YBR guy (who seems nice) is wrong and nothing goes down... I'm never going to TBN again, nor will I ever refer or listen to their "inside sources". Sound like a deal guys?

Post #1154 » by **Def Swami** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:59 am

DJRajX wrote:If this YBR guy (who seems nice) is wrong and nothing goes down... I'm never going to TBN again, nor will I ever refer or listen to their "inside sources". Sound like a deal guys?

+1

BN · Post #1155 » by BN » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:03 am

Heh, like we've never said that before... we'll never learn

Swiftraven · Post #1156 » by **Swiftraven** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:04 am

DJRajX wrote:If this YBR guy (who seems nice) is wrong and nothing goes down... I'm never going to TBN again, nor will I ever refer or listen to their "inside sources". Sound like a deal guys?

We see the same stuff here as well. I don't mind it as It helps pass the time and is fun to discuss.

PeePee la Fritz · Post #1157 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:04 am

DJRajX wrote:If this YBR guy (who seems nice) is wrong and nothing goes down... I'm never going to TBN again, nor will I ever refer or listen to their "inside sources". Sound like a deal guys?

Agreed, I got a message at 5:30 am Pacific time and have been up and amped about it ever since. I'm exhausted and frustrated and just pray to god he wasn't blowing smoke up our asses.

ADRajX · Post #1158 » by **ADRajX** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:05 am

Swiftraven wrote:
DJRajX wrote:If this YBR guy (who seems nice) is wrong and nothing goes down... I'm never going to TBN again, nor will I ever refer or listen to their "inside sources". Sound like a deal guys?

We see the same stuff here as well. I don't mind it as It helps pass the time and is fun to discuss.

very true... but at least our guys don't post private Twitter DMs with Dwight, and get in trouble because of it :rofl:

NW · Post #1159 » by NW » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:06 am

DJRajX wrote:
NW wrote:
DJRajX wrote:
GS's front office are maddening and irritating to work with it seems

They made an offer. Orlando turned them down. But just because they did doesn't mean they should be in a hurry to send Ellis to Orlando.

I understand what you're saying... but don't take offense to what I said, I enjoy your posts and your outside opinion as a Warriors fan... but I based my comment/frustration not just on the link I posted now, but from the previous report (last week) that mentioned Golden State would only trade Ellis if they received Howard in return somewhere in the previous Thread parts. That too me (and too other posters who have mentioned it before me) is asinine imo. I'm not the only Magic fan that has the same sentiments either. We're all walking on eggshells here as Magic fans (due to Otis and Dwight), so don't take my comments to heart... yes you're right, you're FO offered something and we (thankfully) turned it down... but to me your FO is just crazy to think Ellis is worth Howard, let alone Ellis + Lee. And our GM is not exactly Mr. Reliable. We're worried he's going to pull off a terrible trade, whether it involves Dwight, or not.

Doubt there were any illusions the Magic would take it. But you got to make an offer - and make it clear you're more focused on getting Howard than making a deal for you guys to keep him.

Now can move on and see what 3-way deals are out there to have all parties leave happy.

Swiftraven · Post #1160 » by **Swiftraven** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:07 am

PeePee la Fritz wrote:
DJRajX wrote:If this YBR guy (who seems nice) is wrong and nothing goes down... I'm never going to TBN again, nor will I ever refer or listen to their "inside sources". Sound like a deal guys?

Agreed, I got a message at 5:30 am Pacific time and have been up and amped about it ever since. I'm exhausted and frustrated and just pray to god he wasn't blowing smoke up our asses.

I don't think he is, just like i didn't think RevTy was either back in the day. Things change all the time. If Dwight dm'd him about a potential trade there is still no guarantee that it happens.