Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXII Off-Season Edition)

[BadMofoPimp]

Ok guys If Bynum is traded here what do think his numbers would be as a 1st option?

Probably 0/0 since he will be on the bench rehabbing a knee injury.

[mhectorgato]

Well, there will always be some of those locals that like their underdog teams. They will root for their Deiners or JJ Redicks even though their team will be the Warriors or Clippers for the next 10-20 years until they get another Dwight or Blake and be relevant for 3-4 years, then back to the lottery for another 10-20 years. In the meantime, Lakers will average 2-4 ships per decade.

I liken some homers to diehard redneck Nascar fans. They root for Waltrip or Biffle while bashing Gordon and Johnson. Then, all they can do is complain while Hendrix wins race after race.

Why not root for a winner for a change and be happy watching your team win?

I'm happy with our team -- notable exception was last season, never have I felt as disconnected from a team before (other than my interest waning for the sport, ie NHL, MLB and more & more the NFL).

[eyriq]

Well, there will always be some of those locals that like their underdog teams. They will root for their Deiners or JJ Redicks even though their team will be the Warriors or Clippers for the next 10-20 years until they get another Dwight or Blake and be relevant for 3-4 years, then back to the lottery for another 10-20 years. In the meantime, Lakers will average 2-4 ships per decade.

I liken some homers to diehard redneck Nascar fans. They root for Waltrip or Biffle while bashing Gordon and Johnson. Then, all they can do is complain while Hendrix wins race after race.

Why not root for a winner for a change and be happy watching your team win?

Seriously man, you've just come into your new found enlightenment. Why not enjoy your blessed state for a bit before spending all this energy evangelizing to us poor peons?

[OrlChamps2030]

Ok guys If Bynum is traded here what do think his numbers would be as a 1st option?

Giving the new freeflow offense. 25+ and 10+ rebounds nightly.

At worst. 18 Points 10 rebounds.

What new "freeflow" offense do we have?

We may get a coach who is strictly a 1/2 court guy. I hope not, but it's possible.

IMO Bynum would excell more in a half-court offense than an uptempo offense. He is a large, lumbering big man who is a traditional post scorer that you work the ball into.

That being said, as a number #1 option at his current age of 24 I think Bynum could put up 23/12. He is still showing signs of improvement and potential on the offensive end. His touch, footwork, post moves, and fluidity in the low post to me shows that he can continue to build upon his game on the offensive end.

IMO, Dwight has reached his ceiling on the offensive end. Any improvement he could potentially have on the Lakers would be a result of Nash and Gasol's passing abillity.

[ThatFloridaDude]

What new "freeflow" offense do we have?

We may get a coach who is strictly a 1/2 court guy. I hope not, but it's possible.[/quote]
Freeflow= Not jacking up three pointers. Actually alowing the offensive game to flow a little more towards the paint rather than the wing.[/quote]

You missed the point - we don't even have a head/offensive coach now. We don't know what our offense will be yet.[/quote]
I dont think I missed any point. The Stan Van Gundy system which is (Outside In ) any center should be able to flourish. I don't care what coach you put, that system won't be used again here. It has passed it's time.

[woosah]

Ok guys If Bynum is traded here what do think his numbers would be as a 1st option?

18 points, 11 rebounds. In LA, no one could afford to sag off of Kobe or Pau. I'm sure teams will be just fine leaving Big Baby open to shoot 15 footers and letting Redick try to beat single coverage.

This is my train of thought as well. 11 rebounds for a guy who can't really jump? I was thinking avg around 7 but i don't know.

[OrlChamps2030]

Well, there will always be some of those locals that like their underdog teams. They will root for their Deiners or JJ Redicks even though their team will be the Warriors or Clippers for the next 10-20 years until they get another Dwight or Blake and be relevant for 3-4 years, then back to the lottery for another 10-20 years. In the meantime, Lakers will average 2-4 ships per decade.

I liken some homers to diehard redneck Nascar fans. They root for Waltrip or Biffle while bashing Gordon and Johnson. Then, all they can do is complain while Hendrix wins race after race.

Why not root for a winner for a change and be happy watching your team win?

I like rooting for a winner. Hence why I am hoping the Magic can work out a trade with LAL to receive the best win-now and most guaranteed win-in-the-future package.

[OrlandO]

Ok guys If Bynum is traded here what do think his numbers would be as a 1st option?

He was close to 19/12 as a third sometimes second option... I think he could go for 23/12/2 in his first year here unless we limit his minutes. Dude is so tall and has a soft touch near the basket... very hard to stop in a league with crappy centers. Playoffs may be a different story, but he could dominate regular season averages.

[Last Guardian]

Based on scoring ability (touch, post moves, free throws), physical advantage (height, length, mass) and throwing in a few garbage buckets, Bynum should net 23+ a game as a first option. The big obstacle is the handling of the double teams, which he is going to get every game. If he learns to handle them well, he'll get what he is supposed to get (23+). If he struggles with them he'll be between 18-20 a game.

Rebounds are tough. He managed 12rpg playing along very strong rebounders. You almost have to assume he would get more on a team like ours. But then you have increased offensive responsibility which could lead to less focus on rebounding. So I'll guess that he stays where he is at 12rpg.

My guess is 23.4ppg and 12.1rpg.

How stupid this would be if we don't trade for him, lol.

[BadMofoPimp]

Just messing with ya'll. But, we are not renewing our season tickets for the first time in like over 10 years. If MWP is part of the trade to Orlando, I may only just visit here for my Magic news since I wouldn't be able to justify watching the Magic. Well, I may watch a few games . . .

Anyways, I have always been a fan of (3) teams being it has been (1) Orlando, (2) Detroit and (3) Miami in that order the past few years.

It may be a tossup between Miami and Orlando now for 2nd place being I am all sorts of excited for the development in Detroit with a lineup of Knight, Stuckey, Prince, Drummond and Monroe. Plenty of youth and cap space to grow that team next year.

We will have to see what Orlando can do in 2013.

But, I would love to see Miami win multiple titles against the Lakers with Dwight.

I hope Dwight never gets to hold that NBA trophy.

[eyriq]

im not seeing that bolded part?

"If a player retires, even for medical reasons, his team does not receive a salary cap exception to acquire a replacement player." (brandon roy)

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q61

The only exception to this is when a player is still under contract, wants to quit, and his team doesn't want to let him out of his contract. Under these circumstances the player can file for retirement with the league. The player is placed on the league's Voluntarily Retired list, forgoes his remaining salary, and cannot return to the league for one year.

I read this to imply two things: first that a team can let a player out of his contract and second that if they don't the player can retire with the league but with stipulations on when he can return to activity.

[mhectorgato]

im not seeing that bolded part?

"If a player retires, even for medical reasons, his team does not receive a salary cap exception to acquire a replacement player." (brandon roy)

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q61

The only exception to this is when a player is still under contract, wants to quit, and his team doesn't want to let him out of his contract. Under these circumstances the player can file for retirement with the league. The player is placed on the league's Voluntarily Retired list, forgoes his remaining salary, and cannot return to the league for one year.

I read this to imply two things: first that a team can let a player out of his contract and second that if they don't the player can retire with the league but with stipulations on when he can return to activity.

Isn't that exception to the first paragraph -- that he can indeed play again after "retiring". It's about when they can play again. If the player retires to get out of a deal/team, then he has to wait a year or get approval from all the league owners.

This below looks to be the only exception for not having the contract count against the cap:

Any money paid to a player is included in team salary, even if the player is no longer playing or has retired.

There is one exception whereby a player can continue to receive his salary, but the salary is excluded from team salary. This is when a player suffers a career-ending injury or illness.

[Cigamodnalro]

Magic lakers sixers 3 way?

[SolidSnake008]

You know what i might get killed for saying this but i think Andrew Nicholson might be a better fit playing alongside Bynum than Big baby can.....Just his Skillset fits well next to someone like Bynum

[woosah]

Magic lakers sixers 3 way?

for who? you want Lou williams?

[TDJacksonville]

Magic lakers sixers 3 way?

rumor or wishful thinking?

[eyriq]

im not seeing that bolded part?

"If a player retires, even for medical reasons, his team does not receive a salary cap exception to acquire a replacement player." (brandon roy)

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q61

The only exception to this is when a player is still under contract, wants to quit, and his team doesn't want to let him out of his contract. Under these circumstances the player can file for retirement with the league. The player is placed on the league's Voluntarily Retired list, forgoes his remaining salary, and cannot return to the league for one year.

I read this to imply two things: first that a team can let a player out of his contract and second that if they don't the player can retire with the league but with stipulations on when he can return to activity.

Any money paid to a player is included in team salary, even if the player is no longer playing or has retired.

There is one exception whereby a player can continue to receive his salary, but the salary is excluded from team salary. This is when a player suffers a career-ending injury or illness.

I've been through all that already, see my first post. Notice that this says "any money paid to a player". If a player initiates his release from a team by retiring it is implied that the team can release him from his contract and it explicitly states that the team can protest with penalties on the player's ability to play in the league within a year, also with the implied release of contractual obligations.

[TDJacksonville]

Magic lakers sixers 3 way?

for who? you want Lou williams?

i wouldnt mind adding Lou and IGGY to our team

[BadMofoPimp]

I think it will end up being a three way involving either Wolves, Rockets or Hawks of which all of them really want Gasol. Thus, I can see Bynum with either Webster (Wolves), Picks (Rockets) or Horford coming to Orlando.

[Nolimit1211]

Lets go BYNUM! *Clap* *Clap* *Clap*