Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XLI Off-Season Edition)

rcklsscognition · Post #1141 » by **rcklsscognition** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:59 pm

magic111 wrote:Can i ask why everyone is talking about this D-mo guy?? Was it said somewhere that we want him???? Or are you guys just assuming things?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFqK-YXlsHs[/youtube]

Let's hope Henny has seen the plays around 1:40-2:00 minutes

cedric76 · Post #1142 » by **cedric76** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:00 pm

Nothing to worried about

We have Rob and Houston can become huge by getting d12

OrlandoMajinBuu · Post #1143 » by **OrlandoMajinBuu** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:04 pm

Tony Mejia‏@TonyMejiaNBA

Watch 8/5 as a date. First day Motiejunas is trade eligible.." Yep, but framework could be agreed upon beforehand. It's time.

Tony Mejia‏@TonyMejiaNBA

With Lin & Howard/Bynum on Rockets & All-Star in Houston it sure puts them back on NBA map." Ya, DH may be "hosting" 2nd straight.

Skin · Post #1144 » by **Skin** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:26 pm

OrlandoMajinBuu wrote:
Tony Mejia‏@TonyMejiaNBA

Watch 8/5 as a date. First day Motiejunas is trade eligible.." Yep, but framework could be agreed upon beforehand. It's time.

Tony Mejia‏@TonyMejiaNBA

With Lin & Howard/Bynum on Rockets & All-Star in Houston it sure puts them back on NBA map." Ya, DH may be "hosting" 2nd straight.

I bet he reads our forum for his info. We were just talking about this. lol

Chet Wagner · Post #1145 » by **Chet Wagner** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:27 pm

I would what excuse people will come up with when August 5th rolls on by and there's still no deal talked about

Post #1146 » by **Def Swami** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:31 pm

Larry Ridley ‏@mrlarryridley
Think D12 resolution will be done within 3 wks, his camp is Aug 13-14, can't come back to #Orlando with this cloud over his head can he?

arkknight1988 · Post #1147 » by **arkknight1988** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:33 pm

henny is on vacation to clear his head according to a rockets insider. must be weighing options. i don't think we wait on dontas

Skin · Post #1148 » by **Skin** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:36 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:Note quite...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#Rookie_scale_salary

No free agent signed in the offseason can be traded until December 15 of that year or until three months have passed (whichever comes later), a rule that prevents teams from signing free agents with the intent of using them strictly as trade fodder. For draft picks this moratorium lasts 30 days.

The rule doe not say that teams must wait a month, it says that teams must wait 30 days. Since there are 31 days this July, the actual date for which D-Mo could be traded would be August 5th.

Touche. August 5th it is.

D-Mo isn't a rookie draft pick though. So isn't MF101 right? Seems like Dec 15 would be the soonest since he was drafted in 2011 by the Wolves.

rcklsscognition · Post #1149 » by **rcklsscognition** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:41 pm

Skin wrote:D-Mo isn't a rookie draft pick though. So isn't MF101 right? Seems like Dec 15 would be the soonest since he was drafted in 2011 by the Wolves.

Doesn't say "rookie" in the rules. Just says draft pick.

MagicFan101 · Post #1150 » by **MagicFan101** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:41 pm

Skin wrote:D-Mo isn't a rookie draft pick though. So isn't MF101 right? Seems like Dec 15 would be the soonest since he was drafted in 2011 by the Wolves.

But this is the first contract he has signed in the NBA. This is much like how Ricky Rubio (a 2009 draft choice) was a 1st team all rookie selection and a strong contender for rookie of the year this past season.

TDJacksonville · Post #1151 » by **TDJacksonville** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:43 pm

Skin wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:
The rule doe not say that teams must wait a month, it says that teams must wait 30 days. Since there are 31 days this July, the actual date for which D-Mo could be traded would be August 5th.

Touche. August 5th it is.

D-Mo isn't a rookie draft pick though. So isn't MF101 right? Seems like Dec 15 would be the soonest since he was drafted in 2011 by the Wolves.[/quote]

technically hes a Rookie because he hasnt Played in the NBA. he just signed his rookie deal. that should say hes a ROOKIE and according to Trade Checker his date is august not december

Skin · Post #1152 » by **Skin** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:49 pm

Sounds good enough to me! Thanks for the clarification guys.

Post #1153 » by **Bensational** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:51 pm

Last Guardian wrote:
Bensational wrote:that's your definition of absolutely awful? outside of Dwight, it's better than our team in 3 out of 4 positions (with an argument to be made that they're better at every position), and we were good enough for a 2nd round run at least.

Lin's good enough to make Dwight better. all the complaints you have about Dwight's lack of offense won't matter half as much as long as he's got a PG who can get him the ball in effective spots.

and, as mentioned, between Asik, BBD, Donatas, Patterson, White, Parsons and KMart's expiring, they've got enough talent on that team to bring in significant upgrades in the future. much more than any current Magic player would ever land, that's for sure.

Dwights lack of offense will always matter. Relying on Jeremy Lin (lmao) to make you look better would be a very sad time for Dwight, a supposed superstar. Needing help to win it all is one thing, but needing help to make you a more effective player is something else. That is an obvious glaring weakness in him being a franchise player and I am not sure why you so swiftly ignore it.

And that supporting cast is terrible no matter how you spin it. Jeremy Lin would be his best teamate. And no, Jeremy Lin is not a good enough PG to help Dwight out. The two of them would be the most TO prone combo in the league. That Houston team would just not be very good, especially in the West.

i think you're too blinded by Dwight's limitations to actually accept how effective he is. and if you think that the fact Dwight needs help to be more effective knocks him down a few notches from superstar then you're just a flat out hater with no ability to rationalize.

Lin is one of the top ranking PGs at finding his man in the paint, and he did that with Chandler and Stat. He'll do just fine with Howard.

KMart is better than JRich and JJ, and he's still a threat to get to the line frequently, even if the new rules have slowed him. That alone is a difference maker - we never had a player who could even get to the line when needed.

Parsons and White aren't as good as Turk, but they've got similar skill sets, and they've also got something called heart and hustle. Turk hasn't played like he's cared for several seasons now.

do you really rate last year's Magic squad over that potential Houston lineup?

Magic#1 · Post #1154 » by **Magic#1** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:56 pm

Skin wrote:
OrlandoMajinBuu wrote:
Tony Mejia‏@TonyMejiaNBA

Watch 8/5 as a date. First day Motiejunas is trade eligible.." Yep, but framework could be agreed upon beforehand. It's time.

Tony Mejia‏@TonyMejiaNBA

With Lin & Howard/Bynum on Rockets & All-Star in Houston it sure puts them back on NBA map." Ya, DH may be "hosting" 2nd straight.

I bet he reads our forum for his info. We were just talking about this. lol

I can't picture Houston giving up D-Mo. If they did, that's be fantastic. He has superstar potential. I wouldn't get our hopes up on getting him, though. If we are able to get Lamb, D-Mo, and the Toronto pick in a deal, Henny did great.

OrlandoMajinBuu · Post #1155 » by **OrlandoMajinBuu** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:14 pm

Tony Mejia‏@TonyMejiaNBA

Magic have to get DM. They don't have a C on the roster, minus Gus. I'd be happy w/ Lamb & DM" Liked how both looked in Vegas.

Tony Mejia‏@TonyMejiaNBA

Dude asks an interesting question. Nelson's contract is sneaky ugly."Eyebrows were raised in Orlando. Paying him to be bridge.

Tony Mejia‏@TonyMejiaNBA

Worst contract the Magic have is the one Hennigan just signed (Nelson)- I don't have hopes up for him winning this trade"Ouch

thelead · Post #1156 » by **thelead** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:27 pm

OrlandoMajinBuu wrote:
Tony Mejia‏@TonyMejiaNBA

Magic have to get DM. They don't have a C on the roster, minus Gus. I'd be happy w/ Lamb & DM" Liked how both looked in Vegas.

Tony Mejia‏@TonyMejiaNBA

Dude asks an interesting question. Nelson's contract is sneaky ugly."Eyebrows were raised in Orlando. Paying him to be bridge.

Tony Mejia‏@TonyMejiaNBA

Worst contract the Magic have is the one Hennigan just signed (Nelson)- I don't have hopes up for him winning this trade"Ouch

Jameer's contract has in one fell swoop lost most of my confidence in Hennigan... yet people here still want to defend it.

magicman123 · Post #1157 » by **magicman123** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:30 pm

thelead wrote:Jameer's contract has in one fell swoop lost most of my confidence in Hennigan... yet people here still want to defend it.

that contract was awful and uncalled for

MagicTownBaller · Post #1158 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:31 pm

Tony Mejia @TonyMejiaNBA
"@MrBrianGill:What are the exact details of Jameer's deal? He'll be a trade chip in 2 years." Starts at>6.1 w/raises next 2yrs for 19.7/3yrs

The contract looks a little better then $8.6M a year.

Post #1159 » by **Bensational** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:33 pm

The biggest thing about resigning Jameer for me is it makes me wonder what Hennigan's take on the market for PGs is. He obviously didn't see any young PGs this summer he felt would be better options to sign. Given the length of the deal, it makes me think there isn't someone on his radar for the next 2 seasons at least as a free agent either.

TheLastDon · Post #1160 » by **TheLastDon** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:35 pm

T-Cat wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:
Tom Kessenich ‏@TomKessenich
The #Bucks also following JJ Reddick, Hedo Turkoglu, Chris Duhon & Glen Davis. Either something's afoot or it's Random NBA Follow Day at BC.

Speculators, speculate!

Book it!
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cmyfqlx

I'll do that deal RIGHT NOW... Who DISAGREES???