2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

[Skin]

Athletes don't neccessarily make basketball players. I care more about coordination.

[doct3r dr3]

Athletes don't neccessarily make basketball players. I care more about coordination.

I tend to agree, but perusing through the historical pre-draft measures (which DraftExpress has, going back to 1989 though it seems to exclude some #1 picks that apparently didn't show up for measurements/workouts), the athletic measure that most corresponds to successful pro careers seems to be that maximum vertical reach, at which Owens excels. In fact, if you look at the historical measurements they have there, Owens is in some pretty impressive company:

Shaquille O'Neal - 12'5"
Solomon Jones - 12'4"
Rudy Gay - 12'3.7"
Tyrus Thomas 12'3.5"
JaVale McGee - 12'3"
Dwight Howard - 12'3"
Jerry Holman - 12'3"
Gary Flowers - 12'3"
Josh Owens - 12'2.55"

I can't find the clip now, but there's footage of Weisbrod and Twardzik using this same metric (slapping the backboard) for Dwight in 2004. They confessed they were so floored by his reach, they were basically sold from that point on...

[Greenraida]

I'm pretty impressed at gay- that's some damn good hops

[cedric76]

orlando magic.com mock draft

http://www.nba.com/magic/orlandomagicco ... aft_062212

19) ORLANDO MAGIC

XXXCohen

Perry Jones

SUCCESS
About a year ago, some thought Jones could be the No. 1 overall pick in the draft because of his versatility and athleticism. Though unpolished and while some are concerned about his work ethic, Jones is a steal at pick No. 19

XXXChapman

Kendall Marshall

SUCCESS
He’d be the heir apparent to Jameer Nelson. Although snagging Marshall this late might be wishful thinking, he could start immediately should Jameer opt out next week, or ideally he could back Jameer up while he develops

XXXSavage


Terrence Jones

POTENTIAL
Although his on-court awareness leaves something to be desired, he possesses top 10 talent. The Magic hope they can get the most out of him here

[msmoore66]

Very cool videos of Lillard & the process he is going through now (only 2 episodes so far)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3My0KilXj0&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Efmy8AT4Ak&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/youtube]

Nice! I want him on this team!

[Nyce_1]

Hollinger says QMiller is the perfect fit for us.

[mcaul55]

Wow, Budinger traded for the 18th pick. I can't wrap my head around it from a T-wolves prospective. Rockets now have 14,16, and 18. Out of sheer hilarity, if they got the 8th pick for Lowry and packaged 4 first rounders for Dwight, I know it wouldn't be anywhere close to equal value, but man that would be hilarious/awesome to have 5 first round draft picks. It'd be exciting if nothing else. The only possible attempt of an NBA Fab Five.

[Dgbarnes]

Wow, Budinger traded for the 18th pick. I can't wrap my head around it from a T-wolves prospective. Rockets now have 14,16, and 18. Out of sheer hilarity, if they got the 8th pick for Lowry and packaged 4 first rounders for Dwight, I know it wouldn't be anywhere close to equal value, but man that would be hilarious/awesome to have 5 first round draft picks. It'd be exciting if nothing else. The only possible attempt of an NBA Fab Five.

I thought the same thing about Budinger, but I guess this next year he has a team-option. Maybe theyre looking to shed the 1mil he's owed off the books?

[MMFla]

This doesn't pertain to us but I've looked at Henson's workout video and he intrigues me, he didn't impress me at North Carolina so maybe hes better suited for the pro game or is just better in workouts. He wont fall to us but hes one guy who caught my eye as surprising me.

If we keep the 19 I wouldn't mind if Sullinger fell and we picked him the medical red flag doesn't scare me as much after Blair and maybe the NFL draft in my head. Terrence Jones, Perry Jones, Quincy Miller, Moe Harkless all seem pretty good and could also be there when we pick and I wouldn't mind if we got one.

I'm actually excited about this draft and what other teams are going to do but more importantly what we do, can't wait.

[londoncollin]

Those picks could turn into a great core of young players. It would be hard to pass that up.

[Blue_and_Whte]

This doesn't pertain to us but I've looked at Henson's workout video and he intrigues me, he didn't impress me at North Carolina so maybe hes better suited for the pro game or is just better in workouts. He wont fall to us but hes one guy who caught my eye as surprising me.

If we keep the 19 I wouldn't mind if Sullinger fell and we picked him the medical red flag doesn't scare me as much after Blair and maybe the NFL draft in my head. Terrence Jones, Perry Jones, Quincy Miller, Moe Harkless all seem pretty good and could also be there when we pick and I wouldn't mind if we got one.

I'm actually excited about this draft and what other teams are going to do but more importantly what we do, can't wait.

Henny's picking Harkless at 19. That's my final offer.

[ChildishGambino]

why settle for Harkless when there are probably better prospects available at 19?

[Blue_and_Whte]

why settle for Harkless when there are probably better prospects available at 19?

I'm not saying they should settle. No ****, obviously if there's a better player on the board then that's who they should pick. I'm just predicting that's what will happen.

[dsg2021]

Hollinger says QMiller is the perfect fit for us.

+1

Saying QM upside just too much, even if it takes 1-2 yr to recover and get stronger he'll turn out like a lotto top 10 pick. I think this guy can be Hedo-lite at SF in season 1.

[ChildishGambino]

I don't think we should take any PF's except if somehow Perry Jones is still on the board.....no moultrie......no nicholson......got enough PF's......i think....i mean there is a possibility we could trade BBD....We let Ryan walk.....Earl Clark opts out.....then all we have left is Harper...but what are the odds of all that happening?

[cedric76]

I don't think we should take any PF's except if somehow Perry Jones is still on the board.....no moultrie......no nicholson......got enough PF's......i think....i mean there is a possibility we could trade BBD....We let Ryan walk.....Earl Clark opts out.....then all we have left is Harper...but what are the odds of all that happening?

2 things

# 1st , i hope we keep BBD
#2nd , who is that girl on ur avatar ?

[Neon1]

Hollinger says QMiller is the perfect fit for us.

+1

Saying QM upside just too much, even if it takes 1-2 yr to recover and get stronger he'll turn out like a lotto top 10 pick. I think this guy can be Hedo-lite at SF in season 1.

He has nowhere near the same type of game or skillset that Hedo has. Not near the ballhandler, passer or shooter. They are not even close to the same type of player. Unless you only want to look at their height.

[NEM]

I don't think we should take any PF's except if somehow Perry Jones is still on the board.....no moultrie......no nicholson......got enough PF's......i think....i mean there is a possibility we could trade BBD....We let Ryan walk.....Earl Clark opts out.....then all we have left is Harper...but what are the odds of all that happening?

2 things

# 1st , i hope we keep BBD
#2nd , who is that girl on ur avatar ?

I have been thinking the same thing about #2

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[ChildishGambino]

Hollinger says QMiller is the perfect fit for us.

+1

Saying QM upside just too much, even if it takes 1-2 yr to recover and get stronger he'll turn out like a lotto top 10 pick. I think this guy can be Hedo-lite at SF in season 1.

He has nowhere near the same type of game or skillset that Hedo has. Not near the ballhandler, passer or shooter. They are not even close to the same type of player. Unless you only want to look at their height.

i agree with this....two different types of players...Quincy is more of a creator than a playmaker like Turk....but i think Q is a much better ballhandler than Turk is by a mile and Turk isn't bad......

[Skin]

ESPN's Thorpe likes QMiller for us too.

Orlando Magic team needs:

It seems obvious that no team has a murkier future, and therefore a more difficult time making the right choices in this draft, than the Magic. The Dwight Howard question just looms so large. Without him, the Magic are a broken team. And without Stan Van Gundy, they might be rudderless for a while even if Howard stays (which is highly unlikely).

The coach sets the agenda, and right now we don't know how Orlando intends to play next season. Without Howard, the Magic have only one definite full-time starter in Ryan Anderson, and he certainly could end up being dealt away if Orlando decides to literally restart the engine and begins to move guys away for picks and younger players.

Perfect fit: Quincy Miller

Whenever I see Chad Ford write "he would be a top-10 pick if he came back to school for another year," I think that teams would be smart to consider that player in the top 10 in the current draft. If the draft is about projection, then why should another year in school matter so much?

Some teams need to see more "proof" before they make the call, but they are also losing some potential value in the process. In any draft, Miller looks like someone who has a chance to be special. Tall, long and athletic with skills -- yep, that's what a small forward in this league needs to look like. In a few years, he'll be far stronger and he has the potential to be an excellent 3-point shooter. If Orlando is starting over but doesn't want to trade up in the draft, Miller is likely the best upside guy the Magic can draft with the least amount of risk.

Kind-of fits: Arnett Moultrie, Fab Melo, Royce White, Moe Harkless

Fab Melo could step in right away and help the Magic.

The thinking here is that Orlando will decide to look for guys who have home run potential in some capacity down the road, rather than someone who can help the team next year.

I would not be surprised if Howard is traded on draft night and Orlando ends up with a lottery pick this year. But in Moultrie and Melo, the Magic could end up with their future starting center or power forward. Given that there will be a huge hole to fill at both spots (probably) after a trade, these guys can earn the minutes they'd need to develop fully. While it is doubtful that either guy will end up as a star, getting a starter inside with the No. 19 pick is always a great value play.

White is another matter, as it's possible that he'd be ready to step into a primary role very quickly. If Orlando hopes to field a competitive team even without Howard, White is a guy who can help with that.

Strong and skilled always works, at least to some degree, and remember that with Anderson's 3-point shooting from the power forward position, the Magic can get away with a small forward who is a below-average shooter.

White's ability to pass and make plays off the dribble, as well as his rebounding prowess, work beautifully with Anderson. Ironically, he'd be a terrific complement in a season or two next to both Anderson and Howard in the Van Gundy offense of the past few years.