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2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

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Who would you like to see the Magic draft ?

PG Marquis Teague
24
20%
PG/SG Tony Wroten
20
17%
SF Jeff Taylor
5
4%
PG Kendall Marshall
41
34%
SF Terrance Ross
3
3%
SF Quincy Miller
14
12%
PF Arnett Moultrie
4
3%
PF Andrew Nicholson
9
8%
 
Total votes: 120

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Post#1181 » by drsd » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:40 pm

mcaul55 wrote:The only possible attempt of an NBA Fab Five.


As I posted on another thread, this by NBAdraft.net has Orlando selecting a 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. It really would be a fab-five.
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Post#1182 » by Neon1 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:57 pm

ChildishGambino wrote:i agree with this....two different types of players...Quincy is more of a creator than a playmaker like Turk....but i think Q is a much better ballhandler than Turk is by a mile and Turk isn't bad......


Not even close. Hedo is basically like a guard. You guys are setting yourseves up for serious dissapointment unless you guys understand each prospect is capable and not capable of skill wise. Quincy is more post player then he is guard/swing. Hedo can run pick and rolls drive drive and kick etc...I'm not saying Quincy cannot be a better player when its said and done, but what im trying to point out is that the games are not even similar between the two.

Im not against drafting Quincy, im just concerned that a lot of people are excited/hyping up players without even knowing/understanding what type of player each prospect is.
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Post#1183 » by Noonskadoodle » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:16 pm

Two separate sources have confirmed that point guard Damian Lillard won the hearts of Trail Blazer officials with a solo workout for the team earlier this month that was sensational.

Lillard was said to be near flawless in the session,during which he was put through shooting drills and drills that tested his skills as a pick-and-roll point guard.

One person at the workout said,"I swear,he missed two shots the whole time -- that's all. He was amazing."

Another source was even stronger.

"It's the best workout we've had here since Kevin Durant," he said,echoing what others have said about that workout.

Of course,the Trail Blazers didn't take Durant in the draft -- which adds a touch of irony to the situation. Portland,this time,appears to want Lillard,though
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Post#1184 » by Skin » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:18 pm

Noonskadoodle wrote:Two separate sources have confirmed that point guard Damian Lillard won the hearts of Trail Blazer officials with a solo workout for the team earlier this month that was sensational.

Lillard was said to be near flawless in the session,during which he was put through shooting drills and drills that tested his skills as a pick-and-roll point guard.

One person at the workout said,"I swear,he missed two shots the whole time -- that's all. He was amazing."

Another source was even stronger.

"It's the best workout we've had here since Kevin Durant," he said,echoing what others have said about that workout.

Of course,the Trail Blazers didn't take Durant in the draft -- which adds a touch of irony to the situation. Portland,this time,appears to want Lillard,though

They'll get him too.
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ... 

Post#1185 » by mcaul55 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:52 pm

drsd wrote:
mcaul55 wrote:The only possible attempt of an NBA Fab Five.


As I posted on another thread, this by NBAdraft.net has Orlando selecting a 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. It really would be a fab-five.

If we're starting over, I honestly can't think of a situation that would be more exciting from a fan perspective.
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ... 

Post#1186 » by Cammo101 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:54 pm

Davis
Robinson
Barnes
Beal
Lillard
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Post#1187 » by Noonskadoodle » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:03 pm

Cammo101 wrote:Davis
Robinson
Barnes
Beal
Lillard


If Bobcats keep # 2

Davis
TRob
Beal
MKG
Barnes
Lillard
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Post#1188 » by Cammo101 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:06 pm

Noonskadoodle wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:Davis
Robinson
Barnes
Beal
Lillard


If Bobcats keep # 2

Davis
TRob
Beal
MKG
Barnes
Lillard


I meant for us if we managed to nab the top 5. As it stands (barring trades) the top 6 looks like this...

1. NO - Davis
2. CHA - TRob
3. WAS - Beal
4. CLE - Barnes
5. SAC - MKG
6. POR - Lillard
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Post#1189 » by Noonskadoodle » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:14 pm

Ahhhh gotcha
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Post#1190 » by mcaul55 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:44 pm

Man... I love JJ. ESPN just put out another article where a player on each team made each team's draft pick. For instance, Jason Smith would select Anthony Davis for the Hornets at #1, Gerald Henderson would select MKG at #2. This should be shocking to no one that most of these guys have no clue. With the 19th pick JJ selected Bradley Beal (after 18 players passed on him) and had this to say...
"He's the best player available, and he could be the shooting guard Magic fans have longed for, someone who can create his own shot," says Magic guard Redick about the Gators freshman, who averaged 14.6 ppg and 6.5 rpg. "All this is moot, if he dropped this far it's because he has a life-threatening injury or a habit of punching his coaches that I don't know about"
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Post#1191 » by Noonskadoodle » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:52 pm

mcaul55 wrote:Man... I love JJ. ESPN just put out another article where a player on each team made each team's draft pick. For instance, Jason Smith would select Anthony Davis for the Hornets at #1, Gerald Henderson would select MKG at #2. This should be shocking to no one that most of these guys have no clue. With the 19th pick JJ selected Bradley Beal (after 18 players passed on him) and had this to say...
"He's the best player available, and he could be the shooting guard Magic fans have longed for, someone who can create his own shot," says Magic guard Redick about the Gators freshman, who averaged 14.6 ppg and 6.5 rpg. "All this is moot, if he dropped this far it's because he has a life-threatening injury or a habit of punching his coaches that I don't know about"


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Post#1192 » by dsg2021 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:08 pm

Neon1 wrote:
ChildishGambino wrote:i agree with this....two different types of players...Quincy is more of a creator than a playmaker like Turk....but i think Q is a much better ballhandler than Turk is by a mile and Turk isn't bad......


Not even close. Hedo is basically like a guard. You guys are setting yourseves up for serious dissapointment unless you guys understand each prospect is capable and not capable of skill wise. Quincy is more post player then he is guard/swing. Hedo can run pick and rolls drive drive and kick etc...I'm not saying Quincy cannot be a better player when its said and done, but what im trying to point out is that the games are not even similar between the two.

Im not against drafting Quincy, im just concerned that a lot of people are excited/hyping up players without even knowing/understanding what type of player each prospect is.

Im not a draft expert so Im not going to argue much, but Ill say a few things. Miller's height is like Turk, taller than most other NBA SF's. Miller supposedly has a great set 3, and great passing skills too. And when Turk was in his MIP season with us, he used the low/mid range post jumper allll the time.
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ... 

Post#1193 » by mcaul55 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:07 pm

Neon1 wrote:
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Nyce_1 wrote:Hollinger says QMiller is the perfect fit for us.

+1

Saying QM upside just too much, even if it takes 1-2 yr to recover and get stronger he'll turn out like a lotto top 10 pick. I think this guy can be Hedo-lite at SF in season 1.


He has nowhere near the same type of game or skillset that Hedo has. Not near the ballhandler, passer or shooter. They are not even close to the same type of player. Unless you only want to look at their height.


Since when did Hedo become a perennial all star?
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Post#1194 » by gp123 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:11 pm

why do we want a bad version of hedo when most of us hate hedo?
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ... 

Post#1195 » by MoMM » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:17 pm

When Hedo averaged 19/5/5 he was a perennial all star without a doubt.
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Post#1196 » by ChildishGambino » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:20 pm

Neon1 wrote:
ChildishGambino wrote:i agree with this....two different types of players...Quincy is more of a creator than a playmaker like Turk....but i think Q is a much better ballhandler than Turk is by a mile and Turk isn't bad......


Not even close. Hedo is basically like a guard. You guys are setting yourseves up for serious dissapointment unless you guys understand each prospect is capable and not capable of skill wise. Quincy is more post player then he is guard/swing. Hedo can run pick and rolls drive drive and kick etc...I'm not saying Quincy cannot be a better player when its said and done, but what im trying to point out is that the games are not even similar between the two.

Im not against drafting Quincy, im just concerned that a lot of people are excited/hyping up players without even knowing/understanding what type of player each prospect is.

man all i said was Quincy is the better ballhandler.....which is no doubt true.....never said Q was a better player because we don't know if Q can play at a pro level.......you can't compare the two....one is a playmaker the other is a creator/scorer......we need a guy that can create his own shot then Q is definitely a prospect that can do that.....

to me though he is a medium risk pick only because of the ACL.....but he has the tools to be a very talented player.....legit 6"10....handles the ball like a guard....funky shot mechanics but despite it he still gets the shot off...has some post moves he can go to and he's great with ball fakes and up and unders.......potential on the defensive end with his crazy length.....to me his only knocks is that he's somewhat frail he needs to bulk up and he has to get his athleticism 100% back....if he can live up to his potential then he could end up being a much better player than Turk ever was....but that's just a hypothetical
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ... 

Post#1197 » by Cammo101 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:36 pm

Quincy Miller is nowhere near the ball handler Hedo is. Hedo is 6'10'' and handles better than our backup PG.

I do like Miller as a prospect though.
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Post#1198 » by Skin » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:53 pm

Cammo101 wrote:Quincy Miller is nowhere near the ball handler Hedo is. Hedo is 6'10'' and handles better than our backup PG.

I do like Miller as a prospect though.

You must not have seen much of Miller.
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ... 

Post#1199 » by Cammo101 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:17 pm

Skin wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:Quincy Miller is nowhere near the ball handler Hedo is. Hedo is 6'10'' and handles better than our backup PG.

I do like Miller as a prospect though.

You must not have seen much of Miller.


I've seen plenty of Quincy Miller.
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Post#1200 » by Truth24 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:18 pm

Skin wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:Quincy Miller is nowhere near the ball handler Hedo is. Hedo is 6'10'' and handles better than our backup PG.

I do like Miller as a prospect though.

You must not have seen much of Miller.


Ah thats a tough one because Miller does have natural handling ability, but really didn't show it off much in college. I would say Hedo is a better ball handler but Quincy has the ability to be better but Hedo really does have some sick handles.

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