Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Edition)

Post #1181 » by **Def Swami** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:00 am

arsenal6106 wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:Why is everybody acting like this is a done deal? I haven't really heard/read anything that says we're going to get that.

I dk, but we're on the fun part of the roller coaster. Just enjoy it!

dsg2021 · Post #1182 » by **dsg2021** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:01 am

It's not official guys, in fact we have to see how the Lin and Asik offer sheets play for maybe up to a week from now. Unless I missed something this was already said a few hours ago so nothing's changed..

But this is a helluva a great deal. The only thing I forgot was the draftees are coming on rights only, that gives Orlando Parsons, Morris who I like, and Patterson has also played well on top of the three just drafted players. The other differences from the draft day offer was Lowry exchanging for a lotto pick very likely and the Rockets gaining direct cap space to give Orlando TPE's instead of Dalembert's payment of a last year, and possibly Scola's long term deal too. Kevin Martin presents a probably very enticing expiring. Then the obvious other picks, from Dal and Hou futures with very limited protections.

My first move is always to keep Dwight and make him walk away if it was really in his heart after one more season, but I understand he's not here anymore and would support this trade like crazy too. I'm completely sold on Lamb and Jones being somewhere between good role players to borderline all stars, and the cap space and picks (one TOR lotto eventually with possibly our own lotto) is incredible in starting to make a new young team core. My gut instinct is to flip Turk, J Rich and Duhon if possible, and make the same Jameer/BBD magic from the late last season and playoffs again during the early next season to do a deadline-ish deal off BBD for hopefully a nice rookie scaled player or a first rounder of any sort. But the glut of bigs is huge and I want the Magic to develop youth so I can deal with BBD in the deal too. There is no deal that has beat this kind of cap space reduction, picks potential. There's no injury prone, maxed deal but headlining Bynum or Lopez, but there is young guns who are on rookie deals and whose athleticism and potential warrant a starter or rotation spot of a rising title team down the line (Lamb, Jones, lotto(s), White?, Parsons?, Morris?). I fully believe we will have atleast two more lotto talents and roster continuity working with a Houston package than any other deal through the end of our rebuild.

Ahmadab · Post #1183 » by **Ahmadab** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:01 am

Rockets‬ also just followed Duhon, J-Rich, and BBD as well along with Dwight Howard on twitter

ADRajX · Post #1184 » by **ADRajX** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:02 am

Ahmadab wrote:Rockets‬ also just followed Duhon, J-Rich, and BBD as well along with Dwight Howard on twitter

Did they really?

94_MagicFan · Post #1185 » by **94_MagicFan** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:02 am

What's our cap look like after this trade

SloNick Russia · Post #1186 » by **SloNick Russia** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:03 am

When did they? They got max deals in their sign and trade to the Heat 2 years ago. They took a little less, like 500K or 1 million per, but they sure didn't lose 25 to 30 million. Also all 3, Wade, Bosh and Lebron, got player options in 2014, which all 3 will take so all 3 could be making 20+ million after the 2013-2014 season.

But both could resign for 6 years MAXs with their teams and get more money than they did in Miami, why can't Howard do the same thing they did to join the team of his choise? Especially if you add Adidas money boost for playing in a large city.

Ahmadab · Post #1187 » by **Ahmadab** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:03 am

https://twitter.com/#!/HoustonRockets/following

Check em

ADRajX · Post #1188 » by **ADRajX** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:04 am

Ahmadab wrote:https://twitter.com/#!/HoustonRockets/following

Check em

Carlos Arroyo · Post #1189 » by **Carlos Arroyo** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:04 am

DJRajX wrote:
Ahmadab wrote:Rockets‬ also just followed Duhon, J-Rich, and BBD as well along with Dwight Howard on twitter

Did they really?

few pages late lol

Carlos Arroyo · Post #1190 » by **Carlos Arroyo** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:05 am

SloNick Russia wrote:
When did they? They got max deals in their sign and trade to the Heat 2 years ago. They took a little less, like 500K or 1 million per, but they sure didn't lose 25 to 30 million. Also all 3, Wade, Bosh and Lebron, got player options in 2014, which all 3 will take so all 3 could be making 20+ million after the 2013-2014 season.

But both could resign for 6 years MAXs with their teams and get more money than they did in Miami, why can't Howard do the same thing they did to join the team of his choise? Especially if you add Adidas money boost for playing in a large city.

because its really simple
mle or almost max money thats it

SloNick Russia · Post #1191 » by **SloNick Russia** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:05 am

Just about when BBD convinced Dwight to stay he gets the news...

Ahmadab · Post #1192 » by **Ahmadab** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:05 am

YANKE3 wrote:
DJRajX wrote:
Ahmadab wrote:Rockets‬ also just followed Duhon, J-Rich, and BBD as well along with Dwight Howard on twitter

Did they really?

few pages late lol

Sorry, just woke up

arsenal6106 · Post #1193 » by **arsenal6106** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:05 am

rafal wrote:Ok guys, go to bed. It is 10 am at my place. If anything happens, I`ll wake you up.

If only Real gm had some kind of sophisticated text alert system.

Edit: had*

Post #1194 » by **ChosenSavior** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:06 am

The Rockets are following Turk now as well... :lol:

Ahmadab · Post #1195 » by **Ahmadab** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:06 am

I love having a smart GM.

Post #1196 » by **ChosenSavior** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:07 am

Ahmadab wrote:I love having a smart GM.

Yeah it's really awesome. The fact that he is only 30 years old makes this even more impressive.

SloNick Russia · Post #1197 » by **SloNick Russia** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:08 am

because its really simple
mle or almost max money thats it

There are teams besides Brooklyn he can go next summer, Dallas for example.

Idunkonyou2 · Post #1198 » by **Idunkonyou2** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:09 am

SloNick Russia wrote:
When did they? They got max deals in their sign and trade to the Heat 2 years ago. They took a little less, like 500K or 1 million per, but they sure didn't lose 25 to 30 million. Also all 3, Wade, Bosh and Lebron, got player options in 2014, which all 3 will take so all 3 could be making 20+ million after the 2013-2014 season.

But both could resign for 6 years MAXs with their teams and get more money than they did in Miami, why can't Howard do the same thing they did to join the team of his choise? Especially if you add Adidas money boost for playing in a large city.

There are no more sign and trades for max deals. That was taken out via the new CBA so basically Howard will only get the full deal on the team he is on at the end of the 2012-2013 season. Otherwise he can walk and leave 30 million on the table or sign with the Nets for the MLE and leave 100 million on the table.

In other words, he isn't leaving the team he is on in the summer of 2013.

Carlos Arroyo · Post #1199 » by **Carlos Arroyo** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:09 am

Ahmadab wrote:
YANKE3 wrote:
DJRajX wrote:

Sorry, just woke up

lol all good bro im excited as hell right now tho...... no sleep for me

OrlandO · Post #1200 » by **OrlandO** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:10 am

arsenal6106 wrote:
rafal wrote:Ok guys, go to bed. It is 10 am at my place. If anything happens, I`ll wake you up.

If only Real gm has some kind of sophisticated text alert system.

I think on the Android and iOS twitter apps you can now choose to get notifications from specific accounts whenever they tweet. We need an account that only tweets official transactions, so if your phone beeps you know something just went down.