Official 2021 NBA Draft Thread

[basketballRob]

Suggs is a fierce competitor.

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[Knightro]

Cade and Fultz do not make the perfect pairing, but there is no reason they can’t play together.

Drafting Suggs likely means we should start looking at moving Fultz if and when a good offer comes.

Cade is such a good shooter that I think he can pretty much play with anyone.

Fultz would be the point guard/primary creator and Cade would be the primary scorer/secondary creator.

I think the perception of Cade's game is a lot different than the reality. We heard that he was a "triple double threat" and this new age big point guard prospect for months and months, but he just didn't play like that at all IMO.

He played more like a Paul George type of player at Oklahoma State than he did Luka Doncic or Jason Kidd. Still a super talented and super valuable player, just different than the original expectation.

[Nyce_1]

could you imagine landing the top pick for this franchise and you pick the wrong guy (whoever it is/isn't)?!?!?!

So much Cade noise, but what if the real star is...Kuminga? lol. 1 thing for sure, I am EXCITED for summer league!

Cade*, Cole, RJ, Okeke, Chi-pick (if kept)...that's 5 rookie/2nd year players on a 15-man roster. Not even counting Mo, WCJ, JI & Fultz, whom all still need developmental time. 9 super young players to develop...something will give.

What could we get for one of our young centers, Ross + Chi pick? we have so much flexibility and ammunition.

[MasterGMer]

Can someone tell me why Cade is such a special player? Dude has no elite first step and he lacks speed with the ball. How could he become a focal point of offense on an NBA team? I need more education, I guess

[thelead]

Cade and Fultz do not make the perfect pairing, but there is no reason they can’t play together.

Drafting Suggs likely means we should start looking at moving Fultz if and when a good offer comes.

Cade is such a good shooter that I think he can pretty much play with anyone.

Fultz would be the point guard/primary creator and Cade would be the primary scorer/secondary creator.

I think the perception of Cade's game is a lot different than the reality. We heard that he was a "triple double threat" and this new age big point guard prospect for months and months, but he just didn't play like that at all IMO.

He played more like a Paul George type of player at Oklahoma State than he did Luka Doncic or Jason Kidd. Still a super talented and super valuable player, just different than the original expectation.

The Luka comparison does not pass the eye test for me. Someone please show me the highlight reel of that type of talent. I see Kansas Paul Pierce when I watch Cade play. Obviously, he handles the ball more than Paul did in college but I don't see anything exceptional on that front from Cade.

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[ogmagicfan]

could you imagine landing the top pick for this franchise and you pick the wrong guy (whoever it is/isn't)?!?!?!

So much Cade noise, but what if the real star is...Kuminga? lol. 1 thing for sure, I am EXCITED for summer league!

Cade*, Cole, RJ, Okeke, Chi-pick (if kept)...that's 5 rookie/2nd year players on a 15-man roster. Not even counting Mo, WCJ, JI & Fultz, whom all still need developmental time. 9 super young players to develop...something will give.

What could we get for one of our young centers, Ross + Chi pick? we have so much flexibility and ammunition.

Weltham better explore options with the Chicago pick, if we can move that pick and Ross & WCJ to move up a couple spots in the draft to snag someone like Moody to pair with Cade. I’d want them to do that in a heartbeat.

It’s in the end a good problem to have the glut of young players, and why we should tank for a couple seasons, the bigger question will we properly evaluate and make the right decisions on who to draft & keep and who to move, but having that flexibility will be key to helping us make the next level jump to contender by possibly acquiring a star/perfect fit by moving a couple young pieces.

The Nets having Levert & Allen gave them the flexibility to get Harden, and they still have Dinwiddie who they can trade. Assets are a premium in this league and currently no matter what homers on the board want to think, we don’t have close to enough.

My goal is a championship, not just to be in the conversation.

[MagicFan101]

could you imagine landing the top pick for this franchise and you pick the wrong guy (whoever it is/isn't)?!?!?!

So much Cade noise, but what if the real star is...Kuminga? lol. 1 thing for sure, I am EXCITED for summer league!

I do have a very strong feeling when all is said and done, the best player in this class will NOT be Cade or Suggs.

However, the floor on Cade and Suggs is so incredibly high.

The bust potential on Green and Kuminga is high IMO. Green particularly might end up being the best of them all or a complete flop.

Mobley is hard to see flopping but also hard to see being a mega franchise super star. The game just doesn’t allow that.

There is also the “best of the rest” to consider. If Barnes ever learns to shoot then it’s just not fair. He wins. He is the best. Is there anyone else we aren’t really talking about???


... at the end, If we get the #1 pick I’ll take Cade and be happy.

If we get #2 or 3 it gets tricky but I would probably take Green and gamble on the rebuild.

[ogmagicfan]

I think comparisons for NBA prospects aren’t that useful. I’m sure every remembers the DeShawn Stevenson comparison to Michael Jordan one

I think Cade projects to be a 2 or 3 in the NBA. His quickness is probably his biggest weakness, but he didn’t seem like the most in shape guy on the court, too high of a body fat %. I think with proper league conditioning and gym routine he will possess a quicker first step along with athelticism.

[ogmagicfan]

Hopeful Orlando Big Board (at this point):
1. Cade
2. Green
3. Suggs
4. Mobley
5. Kuminga

[basketballRob]

Cade uses his strength, body, and handle, to get shots off, in the same way Kawhi does. I didn't watch him much, so maybe the comparison is bad.

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[Knightro]

Can someone tell me why Cade is such a special player? Dude has no elite first step and he lacks speed with the ball. How could he become a focal point of offense on an NBA team? I need more education, I guess

He's a 6'8" 220 pound wing who was tremendous in isolation while making threes and drawing fouls at VERY strong rates in college.

Throw in the fact that he's a capable passer and shot creator for others and there you have it.

I do NOT think he's a point guard. The passing and creation for others are viable, but not super duper elite like a Luka type of prospect.

But if you look at Cade more in the Paul George, Jimmy Butler, Khris Middleton, Jayson Tatum kind of mold - a big wing who can make threes, get to the line and also do some secondary creation offense for others - he has a clear all-star skill set.

[BCS]

If Jalen Green's interview impresses me. I take my chances with him. If he has the not satisfied mentality and the work ethic to be great, he just has the best superstar skills and we can't pass that by. But I need him to have that kobe, mj mentality and I don't know if he has it.

But if he does and we get the 1st pick and cade is consensus #1 pick...i might even consider a trade in the fashion of C Webb for Penny.

Either way, I'd be happy with either but I just feel Green has the potential to end up being the best from this class.

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[BDill012]

Who are guys you all are eyeing right now for the Chicago pick?

What do people think about Kispert from Gonzaga? I think he could be a good pick to add the shooting that will be needed around Flutz and Isaac.

I wouldn't mind Cade/Green and Kispert. Obviously still a ways to go and lots to happen.

Thoughts

[RookieStar]

Cade and Fultz do not make the perfect pairing, but there is no reason they can’t play together.

Drafting Suggs likely means we should start looking at moving Fultz if and when a good offer comes.

Cade is such a good shooter that I think he can pretty much play with anyone.

Fultz would be the point guard/primary creator and Cade would be the primary scorer/secondary creator.

I think the perception of Cade's game is a lot different than the reality. We heard that he was a "triple double threat" and this new age big point guard prospect for months and months, but he just didn't play like that at all IMO.

He played more like a Paul George type of player at Oklahoma State than he did Luka Doncic or Jason Kidd. Still a super talented and super valuable player, just different than the original expectation.

The Luka comparison does not pass the eye test for me. Someone please show me the highlight reel of that type of talent. I see Kansas Paul Pierce when I watch Cade play. Obviously, he handles the ball more than Paul did in college but I don't see anything exceptional on that front from Cade.

Watch on YouTube

I think it's the 6'8 part with great ball handling and decision making to run the team. Oh yeah, Luka instead of Simmons is because Cade can actually shoot and does a lot both 3pt and midrange. He can do shooting spot-up, running stop and etc.

If PP did that in college.. ball handling against opposing PGs and running the team then yeah, you could make a case for the comparison with Cade.

[Knightro]

The Luka comparison does not pass the eye test for me. Someone please show me the highlight reel of that type of talent. I see Kansas Paul Pierce when I watch Cade play. Obviously, he handles the ball more than Paul did in college but I don't see anything exceptional on that front from Cade.

Hey I mean... Paul Pierce is a 10x NBA All-Star and Finals MVP.

I'd cry tears of joy if Cade Cunningham became that.

[The Effect]

Who are guys you all are eyeing right now for the Chicago pick?

What do people think about Kispert from Gonzaga? I think he could be a good pick to add the shooting that will be needed around Flutz and Isaac.

I wouldn't mind Cade/Green and Kispert. Obviously still a ways to go and lots to happen.

Thoughts

Jalen Johnson from duke
He's a top 5 talent that is gonna fall because he left duke mid season and is rumored to have attitude problems

His situation reminds me michael porter jr in that both at elite talent that falls because of issues besides talent

Best high risk high reward prospect in the middle of the draft

[The Effect]

Man I can see it now, barnes is going to be one of those guys who you'll love on your team but hate if he's not

Just something about his personality tells me he's going to be a winner. I haven't seen the top 5 talent yet but I get the hype

[MagicFan101]

Man I can see it now, barnes is going to be one of those guys who you'll love on your team but hate if he's not

Just something about his personality tells me he's going to be a winner. I haven't seen the top 5 talent yet but I get the hype

His game is flawed right now but his intangibles and measurables are everything you could want.

[basketballRob]

Jalen Johnson looked a little stiff to me to play SF, but maybe he can be an undersized PF like AG.

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[The Effect]

If Jalen Green's interview impresses me. I take my chances with him. If he has the not satisfied mentality and the work ethic to be great, he just has the best superstar skills and we can't pass that by. But I need him to have that kobe, mj mentality and I don't know if he has it.

But if he does and we get the 1st pick and cade is consensus #1 pick...i might even consider a trade in the fashion of C Webb for Penny.

Either way, I'd be happy with either but I just feel Green has the potential to end up being the best from this class.

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I've only see one interview with him, and mind you it was for gq magazine, but I wasn't too impressed, He did seem a little immature and not sure he had that "mamba mentality" in him

But I wouldn't hold that against him as hes only 18 and it was for a materialistic magazine\website

He's still my #2 choice behind cunningham and ahead of suggs