Coaching Search: 7/8 Update - Magic to hire Jamahl Mosley per Woj

pepe1991 · Post #121 » by **pepe1991** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:28 am

Kidd was great player.
That's any positive that can be said about him.

S***y person, sh***y behavior, for things he got away in 2001 today he would be blacked out by sports world.
Agressive off the court and even as a coach.

Most hilarious excuse he was doing during his stint for Bucks was that he kept blaming on "young roster" for underachiving, but among 8 rotation players, 6 were 26 or older, including 40 years old Jayson Terry and 32 years old Teletovic.

Tarheel · Post #122 » by **Tarheel** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:37 am

I hope we don't hire Kidd, he's an *sshole and to date a pretty underwhelming coach.

Post #123 » by **Howard Mass** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:39 am

Would not mind if someone broke this up into different threads for candidates when it's rumored The magic have been given them permission to interview them.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #124 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:40 am

Howard Mass wrote:Would not mind if someone broke this up into different threads for candidates when it's rumored The magic have been given them permission to interview them.

Great idea

Magic_Kingdom · Post #125 » by **Magic_Kingdom** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:21 pm

I don't understand interviewing Kidd, unless it's just a smokescreen. I think he would be a terrible fit for where this team is now.

89Magicfan · Post #126 » by **89Magicfan** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:33 pm

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/1/23/16921324/jason-kidd-fired-bucks-coach-reasons-why

Loved him as a player. Hell no to him as a coach.

jvdas · Post #127 » by **jvdas** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:37 pm

Yeah if we get Kidd, this team is set up to fail. This will implode quicker then anyone can imagine, horrible coach.

j-ragg · Post #128 » by **j-ragg** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:58 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Most hilarious excuse he was doing during his stint for Bucks was that he kept blaming on "young roster" for underachiving, but among 8 rotation players, 6 were 26 or older, including 40 years old Jayson Terry and 32 years old Teletovic.

Those Milwaukee teams under Hammond stunk though, as you’ve pointed out before. Maybe not that young but still bad roster construction. I don’t think he really needs an excuse for the underachieving.

MagicFan101 · Post #129 » by **MagicFan101** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:35 pm

In general, I’m a fan of Atkinson, Vanterpool and Hammon in this hiring cycle.

For Orlando I feel Kenny Atkinson or David Vanterpool would be ideal.

I feel it would be best for all parties if Becky Hammon got her shot somewhere else.

VFX · Post #130 » by **VFX** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:35 pm

The more I think about it the more I want it to be Atkinson or Vanterpool.

Those two have already proven that they can develop talent at some point in their careers.

Hammon would be a “splashy” hire for PR, but does her starting job really need to be with a super young roster without an established go-to player? Not ideal.

Kenny’s stint in Brooklyn from 2016-2019 was a pretty good indication that he’s capable of getting the most out of a young group in a relatively short timeframe.

Vanterpool gets praises from Lillard and McCollum for his contributions in Portland.

The Effect · Post #131 » by **The Effect** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:44 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Most hilarious excuse he was doing during his stint for Bucks was that he kept blaming on "young roster" for underachiving, but among 8 rotation players, 6 were 26 or older, including 40 years old Jayson Terry and 32 years old Teletovic.

This feels very lazy to point out that his final year the main rotation was over 26, he was only the coach of that team for half the season and there were changes made to the team that off season

and PS, 40 year old Jason Terry is not a good thing

His first year, there was 12 different guys that started atleast 10 games and the average age of those 12 was 24
also this team had a second year Giannis, who wasnt the giannis of today.

His 2nd year on the bucks, the starting lineup was

c - Greg Monroe aged 25
PF - Jabari Parker aged 20
SF - Giannis aged 20
sg - Khris Middleton aged 24
pg - Michael Carter Williams aged 24

His 3rd year

C - John Henson - aged 26
Pf - Jabari aged 21 (as usual missed 31 games), backup was 19 year old Thon Maker
SF - Giannis, 22
sg - Tony Snell 25 (middleton only played 20 games)
Pg - Malcom Brogdon for half the season, 24... but he was a 24 year old rookie 2nd round pick, the rest of the year was 26 year old Delladova

So yeah....he was in charge of a very young team for most of his tenure there

tiderulz · Post #132 » by **tiderulz** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:50 pm

The Effect wrote:This feels very lazy to point out that his final year the main rotation was over 26, he was only the coach of that team for half the season and there were changes made to the team that off season

and PS, 40 year old Jason Terry is not a good thing

His first year, there was 12 different guys that started atleast 10 games and the average age of those 12 was 24
also this team had a second year Giannis, who wasnt the giannis of today.

His 2nd year on the bucks, the starting lineup was

c - Greg Monroe aged 25
PF - Jabari Parker aged 20
SF - Giannis aged 20
sg - Khris Middleton aged 24
pg - Michael Carter Williams aged 24

His 3rd year

C - John Henson - aged 26
Pf - Jabari aged 21 (as usual missed 31 games), backup was 19 year old Thon Maker
SF - Giannis, 22
sg - Tony Snell 25 (middleton only played 20 games)
Pg - Malcom Brogdon for half the season, 24... but he was a 24 year old rookie 2nd round pick, the rest of the year was 26 year old Delladova

So yeah....he was in charge of a very young team for most of his tenure there

wow, those were some bad teams.

MartinsIzAfraud · Post #133 » by **MartinsIzAfraud** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:33 am

Read on Twitter

Interesting as he was Magic assistant back in 2012-2014 years when Vaughn was HC

basketballRob · Post #134 » by **basketballRob** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:15 am

We'll probably interview Cassell, Ham, and Billups, as they get eliminated.

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Nyce_1 · Post #135 » by **Nyce_1** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:19 am

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:

Read on Twitter

Interesting as he was Magic assistant back in 2012-2014 years when Vaughn was HC

Denver fans seem a bit nervous to lose him. Happy he's getting a shot but they absolutely don't want him gone.

Usually a good sign.

The Effect · Post #136 » by **The Effect** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:23 am

Interesting

Also nice that he has ties here and knows the upper management\owners (atleast youd like to assume he would)
Not to mention, would probably be nice for RJ and Harris to get to work with him again and for him to come here and not have ALL new faces

RookieStar · Post #137 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:02 am

Well well well well.... coach Bud might be in that seat waiting for his turn at the interview with what just happened.

KillMonger · Post #138 » by **KillMonger** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:14 am

Yo if Budenholzer is fired i DO NOT....i repeat DO NOT want him anywhere near my team....is anyone watching his coaching in this Bucks series?....so many questionable decisions and just bad strategy....no way....no frickin way bro....not my team

basketballRob · Post #139 » by **basketballRob** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:17 am

One game closer to interviewing Darvin Ham.

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thelead · Post #140 » by **thelead** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:39 am

Bud was a hot name years ago but he has looked terrible for years. Watching the bucks offense (broken ISO plays and not putting Giannis’ butt in the paint) and defense (former DPOY Giannis guarding a scrub while Durant torches you) was infuriating and I’m not even invested in the outcome.