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Re: Fultz Prediction 

Post#121 » by RichCollab » Wed Jan 17, 2024 4:02 pm

jezzerinho wrote:
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If it was a motorbike accident, I would expect that to be used against him. Mocking a mental health issue is not funny and it would be universally frown upon.


TOS isn’t a mental health issue.


He doesn't have TOS. Or if he does, its not anywjere near his main challenge. He has involuntary tics, which is likely some combination of a psychological and nervous condition.

Nobody is asking why Fultz cant shoot, because they already know the answer. The organisation is trying to protect Fultz and help him recover, but clearly he has relapses.


We both aren’t medical professionals nor do we have access to his medical records.

I have accepted he has TOS and its potential negative impacts to his shooting.

Wouldn’t tics have presented before college and impacted him in college?
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Re: Fultz Prediction 

Post#122 » by jezzerinho » Wed Jan 17, 2024 4:14 pm

RichCollab wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
TOS isn’t a mental health issue.


He doesn't have TOS. Or if he does, its not anywjere near his main challenge. He has involuntary tics, which is likely some combination of a psychological and nervous condition.

Nobody is asking why Fultz cant shoot, because they already know the answer. The organisation is trying to protect Fultz and help him recover, but clearly he has relapses.


We both aren’t medical professionals nor do we have access to his medical records.

I have accepted he has TOS and its potential negative impacts to his shooting.

Wouldn’t tics have presented before college and impacted him in college?


If.you watch interviews of him in college/HS, he had them then too. Seemimgly something that flares up and dies back, but never goes away.

Im not a medical professional, but i have eyes. His last post game interview was rife with involuntary tics much more aggressive than a lot of them had been before. Theres your reason for DNPs and no shooting right there. The vids of him trying to shoot but with a massive "tic" in the motion show you what he's battling.

I don't believe its yips, as in the golfing definition, where as soon as you stand over a putt your brain is impeding you from completing the stroke smoothly. Fultz has tics all day every day at the moment. You can see it courtside, in interviews etc. Its not something the pressure of making a specific shot brings out in him, the tics are already there.

Anyway, out of respect for him I'll leave it at that.
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Re: Fultz Prediction 

Post#123 » by swarlesbarkley » Wed Jan 17, 2024 4:46 pm

jezzerinho wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
p0peye wrote:
If it was a motorbike accident, I would expect that to be used against him. Mocking a mental health issue is not funny and it would be universally frown upon.


TOS isn’t a mental health issue.


He doesn't have TOS. Or if he does, its not anywjere near his main challenge. He has involuntary tics, which is likely some combination of a psychological and nervous condition.

Nobody is asking why Fultz cant shoot, because they already know the answer. The organisation is trying to protect Fultz and help him recover, but clearly he has relapses.


I don't think it's fair to state the bolded as fact.

I do think it's fine to speculate that his issues are probably more than just 1 thing: TOS, tics, maybe the mental challenge of having to change the way he played for 15 years. It hasn't been an easy road for Fultz so I feel for him in that way. But at the same time, if he can't shoot then he can't shoot. He's had 4 years with us to improve and outside of a handful of nice looking 3s, he hasn't improved much at all.
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Post#124 » by eyriq » Wed Jan 17, 2024 4:49 pm

I thought his issue was knee tendonitis. You mean they are lying about his issue? If so, have they done this in the past? If so, who do we trust?
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Post#125 » by zaymon » Wed Jan 17, 2024 4:55 pm

eyriq wrote:I thought his issue was knee tendonitis. You mean they are lying about his issue? If so, have they done this in the past? If so, who do we trust?


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Re: Fultz Prediction 

Post#126 » by swarlesbarkley » Wed Jan 17, 2024 4:55 pm

eyriq wrote:I thought his issue was knee tendonitis. You mean they are lying about his issue? If so, have they done this in the past? If so, who do we trust?


His recent injury is the knee which kept him out much longer than expected so the speculation is his TOS or tics or something else was preventing him from returning.
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Re: Fultz Prediction 

Post#127 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:00 pm

swarlesbarkley wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
TOS isn’t a mental health issue.


He doesn't have TOS. Or if he does, its not anywjere near his main challenge. He has involuntary tics, which is likely some combination of a psychological and nervous condition.

Nobody is asking why Fultz cant shoot, because they already know the answer. The organisation is trying to protect Fultz and help him recover, but clearly he has relapses.


I don't think it's fair to state the bolded as fact.

I do think it's fine to speculate that his issues are probably more than just 1 thing: TOS, tics, maybe the mental challenge of having to change the way he played for 15 years. It hasn't been an easy road for Fultz so I feel for him in that way. But at the same time, if he can't shoot then he can't shoot. He's had 4 years with us to improve and outside of a handful of nice looking 3s, he hasn't improved much at all.


He 1000% has TOS and the KT tape on his shoulder is to minimize the movement of muscles in shoulder/neck.
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Re: Fultz Prediction 

Post#128 » by pepe1991 » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:11 pm

zaymon wrote:
eyriq wrote:I thought his issue was knee tendonitis. You mean they are lying about his issue? If so, have they done this in the past? If so, who do we trust?


You trust no one except your buddies on realgm.


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Re: Fultz Prediction 

Post#129 » by eyriq » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:18 pm

zaymon wrote:
eyriq wrote:I thought his issue was knee tendonitis. You mean they are lying about his issue? If so, have they done this in the past? If so, who do we trust?


You trust no one except your buddies on realgm.
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Re: Fultz Prediction 

Post#130 » by JoshuaPotter » Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:35 pm

eyriq wrote:
zaymon wrote:
eyriq wrote:I thought his issue was knee tendonitis. You mean they are lying about his issue? If so, have they done this in the past? If so, who do we trust?


You trust no one except your buddies on realgm.
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Remember when Dwight played through a fractured chest against Boston? Lewis got a penalty for steroids playing through an injury?

Somewhere around here I stopped trusting our team calling correct or incorrect injuries.

If I am really honest, I started distrusting it the second T-Mac found his way to the injured list for a season and we purposefully tanked.
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Re: Fultz Prediction 

Post#131 » by p0peye » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:12 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
swarlesbarkley wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:
He doesn't have TOS. Or if he does, its not anywjere near his main challenge. He has involuntary tics, which is likely some combination of a psychological and nervous condition.

Nobody is asking why Fultz cant shoot, because they already know the answer. The organisation is trying to protect Fultz and help him recover, but clearly he has relapses.


I don't think it's fair to state the bolded as fact.

I do think it's fine to speculate that his issues are probably more than just 1 thing: TOS, tics, maybe the mental challenge of having to change the way he played for 15 years. It hasn't been an easy road for Fultz so I feel for him in that way. But at the same time, if he can't shoot then he can't shoot. He's had 4 years with us to improve and outside of a handful of nice looking 3s, he hasn't improved much at all.


He 1000% has TOS and the KT tape on his shoulder is to minimize the movement of muscles in shoulder/neck.


There you go, facts. Condition that can't be confirmed other then saying, well all other conditions have not been confirmed, so it must be it. It is undeniable and cannot possibly be used to cover up something else.
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Re: Fultz Prediction 

Post#132 » by Skybox » Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:47 pm

The only condition I care about is confirmed...he can't/won't shoot the ball outside of 12 feet, so regardless of the cause or condition, he's out of this job, imo.

Get well. Elsewhere. Honestly, I wish him the best, but...
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Post#133 » by fendilim » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:05 pm

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Re: Fultz Prediction 

Post#134 » by VFX » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:48 pm

It’s funny people are focusing on the shot.

I don’t give a **** about the shot hitch. Turning the ball over, looking completely lost on defense, and being otherwise useless without the ball make him a liability.
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Post#135 » by Audi » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:51 pm

MagicMatic wrote:It’s funny people are focusing on the shot.

I don’t give a **** about the shot hitch. Turning the ball over, looking completely lost on defense, and being otherwise useless without the ball make him a liability.


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Re: Fultz Prediction 

Post#136 » by fendilim » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:15 pm

MagicMatic wrote:It’s funny people are focusing on the shot.

I don’t give a **** about the shot hitch. Turning the ball over, looking completely lost on defense, and being otherwise useless without the ball make him a liability.

His shot is clearly broken especially this year, that’s why he isnt even trying hard to shoot.
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Post#137 » by magik9113 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:23 pm

For a brief moment last night, I tried to envision a world where his lack of shot can work. If we surround him with four players who CAN shoot, it's no different than having a C on the court who won't shoot 3s.

But... no...

furthermore, I started imagining teams in the playoffs just putting him on the line to brick FTs. Hack-a-Fultz.
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Post#138 » by Furinkazan » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:33 pm

magik9113 wrote:For a brief moment last night, I tried to envision a world where his lack of shot can work. If we surround him with four players who CAN shoot, it's no different than having a C on the court who won't shoot 3s.

But... no...

furthermore, I started imagining teams in the playoffs just putting him on the line to brick FTs. Hack-a-Fultz.




so basicly you would be building a team around him :D just so he could feel accepted ?

and our main 2 guys as role players

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Post#139 » by p0peye » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:40 pm

magik9113 wrote:For a brief moment last night, I tried to envision a world where his lack of shot can work. If we surround him with four players who CAN shoot, it's no different than having a C on the court who won't shoot 3s.

But... no...

furthermore, I started imagining teams in the playoffs just putting him on the line to brick FTs. Hack-a-Fultz.


In the last few games I did watch, Markelle was frequently playing C, occupying dunker spot after bringing the ball across the court. So, he is battling Goga for starting position in a sense, as he cannot share the floor with him, but he can with WCJ or Moe hanging at perimeter. And it makes sense if what you're saying is true, Goga can't get to the FT line and Markelle would be like, foul magnet!
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Post#140 » by UCFJayBird » Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:20 pm

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When I saw this last night I wanted to throw up. I feel bad for him because it's gotta be his TOS, but he should not be on the floor if he can't take a shot without that happening. I'm rooting for him, I really had high hopes coming into this season that he was going to have a good year and have turned the corner, but that TOS has come back and it's debilitating. He literally can't shoot a jumpshot. He has a lot great intangibles, he's able to breakdown defenses and get to the hoop, he can create for others, but if the ball isn't in his hand teams can leave him basically unguarded and not worry about it.

The only thing I can rationalize is that the doctors have told him that rest isn't going to fix it so he might as well play through it and do his best (and be promptly parked at the back of the bench).

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