Official 2025 Offseason Thread

[SOUL]

Doncic is many times better than Paolo and his team was just gentleman swept with homecourt advantage. Lets not act like ball stopping, weak defense, and midrange shot depending is not a problem.
You need great defense. You need rim protection.

None of that matters in this comparison from that poster. That's personal gripes you have with his game, not rooted in trade value at all. Paolo may never be the "answer", but Paolo is not in prime yet and holds way more value. Also Doncic was still traded for a guy who despite being injury prone, can be top 5 MVP and DPOY in AD.

In that scenario Paolo would be traded for a in his prime Trae Young who is a low percentage shooter, non-defender, but can set up players really well and score well with low efficiency (which people have gripes with with Paolo already).

I guarantee you "making winning moves now" is not firing our coach and trading Paolo for Trae lol. How about using any sort of picks/contracts/young players that aren't our core (since we've yet to use ANY asset) before blowing up our team for a lateral move

[pepe1991]

Let's get bit over a top

Franz and Suggs for Mobley and Garland


PG: Garland
SG : KCP
SF: Black
PF: Banchero
C: Mobley

elite defense sustained



Cavs:
PG : MItchell
SG: Suggs
SF: Franz
PF: Hunter
C: Allen


Worst part is, both teams would benefit

[SOUL]

And also the example of following Detroit/Indiana as who we should be like, sure... which would be like getting vet scorers/shooters like Beasley/Tobias/Schroeder to pair with Pistons youngins, or trade Bruce Brown + picks for Siakam for Indy... not TRADE Haliburton or Cunningham (which would be the equivalent of trading Paolo). Or Franz for that matter. Not trading either.

[pepe1991]

Jakob Poeltl is solid C starting option to go after, "traditional C" , we see in playoffs those still have lot to say ( Zubac, Gobert, Jokić on days when 3 does not fall, Segun who gave up on 3s etc ).

$20M a year, has player's option for 2026-27.

[zaymon]

Doncic is many times better than Paolo and his team was just gentleman swept with homecourt advantage. Lets not act like ball stopping, weak defense, and midrange shot depending is not a problem.
You need great defense. You need rim protection.

None of that matters in this comparison from that poster. That's personal gripes you have with his game, not rooted in trade value at all. Paolo may never be the "answer", but Paolo is not in prime yet and holds way more value. Also Doncic was still traded for a guy who despite being injury prone, can be top 5 MVP and DPOY in AD.

In that scenario Paolo would be traded for a in his prime Trae Young who is a low percentage shooter, non-defender, but can set up players really well and score well with low efficiency (which people have gripes with with Paolo already).

I guarantee you "making winning moves now" is not firing our coach and trading Paolo for Trae lol. How about using any sort of picks/contracts/young players that aren't our core (since we've yet to use ANY asset) before blowing up our team for a lateral move

I am not sure when personal gripes change into objective gripes. I think Doncic value is higher than Paolo's, and Banchero limited impact on winning is/or will be a problem soon. We are average team becouse of our defense not offense, and if Paolo impacts defense its sadly in negative way most of the time. Yes he is young, talented and has elite tools. Its possible waiting for his development is the best idea, but maybe not.
I am not sure if trading Paolo now is a good idea, especially for someone as controversial as Young. I am also not sure if its possible to build a contender with 3 guys as limited as shooters as Suggs, Wagner and Banchero.
We can wait and see where it leads us. I prefer to be more proactive.

[Skybox]

Jakob Poeltl is solid C starting option to go after, "traditional C" , we see in playoffs those still have lot to say ( Zubac, Gobert, Jokić on days when 3 does not fall, Segun who gave up on 3s etc ).

$20M a year, has player's option for 2026-27.

I’ve been promoting that …Maluach mocked to TOR, WCJ or Goga & more for Poeltl.

[Optimus_Steel]

I’m convinced that P5 and Franz pairing doesn’t work. Ball movement starts to work wonders if one of them is on the bench and one of them is tasked to lead shooters.

That’s why I’m ok with trading P5 for Trae (this will fix our stagnant offense and also our 3 point shooting). I’ll also move on from our coach (Malone and Jenkins are available). The time for contention should be near. Enough of the “development” year. We must follow Pistons / Pacers and actually make winning moves.

You dont trade a freight train for a Mini Cooper

[cedric76]

Doncic is many times better than Paolo and his team was just gentleman swept with homecourt advantage. Lets not act like ball stopping, weak defense, and midrange shot depending is not a problem.
You need great defense. You need rim protection.

None of that matters in this comparison from that poster. That's personal gripes you have with his game, not rooted in trade value at all. Paolo may never be the "answer", but Paolo is not in prime yet and holds way more value. Also Doncic was still traded for a guy who despite being injury prone, can be top 5 MVP and DPOY in AD.

In that scenario Paolo would be traded for a in his prime Trae Young who is a low percentage shooter, non-defender, but can set up players really well and score well with low efficiency (which people have gripes with with Paolo already).

I guarantee you "making winning moves now" is not firing our coach and trading Paolo for Trae lol. How about using any sort of picks/contracts/young players that aren't our core (since we've yet to use ANY asset) before blowing up our team for a lateral move

I am not sure when personal gripes change into objective gripes. I think Doncic value is higher than Paolo's, and Banchero limited impact on winning is/or will be a problem soon. We are average team becouse of our defense not offense, and if Paolo impacts defense its sadly in negative way most of the time. Yes he is young, talented and has elite tools. Its possible waiting for his development is the best idea, but maybe not.
I am not sure if trading Paolo now is a good idea, especially for someone as controversial as Young. I am also not sure if its possible to build a contender with 3 guys as limited as shooters as Suggs, Wagner and Banchero.
We can wait and see where it leads us. I prefer to be more proactive.

Trading p5 for Trae is not proactive (I know you didn't propose that trade), this is just a terrible move

[pepe1991]

Jakob Poeltl is solid C starting option to go after, "traditional C" , we see in playoffs those still have lot to say ( Zubac, Gobert, Jokić on days when 3 does not fall, Segun who gave up on 3s etc ).

$20M a year, has player's option for 2026-27.

I’ve been promoting that …Maluach mocked to TOR, WCJ or Goga & more for Poeltl.

Im not touching Malu.
He is taller Byiombo awarness vise

[Skybox]

Jakob Poeltl is solid C starting option to go after, "traditional C" , we see in playoffs those still have lot to say ( Zubac, Gobert, Jokić on days when 3 does not fall, Segun who gave up on 3s etc ).

$20M a year, has player's option for 2026-27.

I’ve been promoting that …Maluach mocked to TOR, WCJ or Goga & more for Poeltl.

Im not touching Malu.
He is taller Byiombo awarness vise

My point is that TOR might take the runaway highest mocked C in the draft at their draft slot...and, therefore, make Poeltl available...bring in a less expensive C to play ahead of Maluach for as little time as possible, and then become a reserve (or, in WCJ's case, backup 4 and 5).

[basketballRob]

The Weltman interview with Mike Bianci is at 8:15 est. About 15 minutes from now.

https://969thegame.iheart.com/featured/open-mike/

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[drsd]

Does the FO add a legitimate starting (scoring) guard to the roster this summer?

My heart says: it is an obligation to the team and its fans that a new guard is brought in.

My head says: there will not be a new guard brought in.


I think the vote reflects a head v. heart view here.

[basketballRob]

Weltman says we're out of the rebuild phase and transitioning into the win now phase. Whatever that means. He's talking about adding vets.

He had some deals at the deadline, but they were for expiring contract players.

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[eyriq]

The Weltman interview with Mike Bianci is at 8:15 est. About 15 minutes from now.

https://969thegame.iheart.com/featured/open-mike/

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Ready to turn the page on the rebuild and look through a more win-now lens. Ready to put his foot on the pedal and put everything on the table to build around Paolo and Franz. Trades will happen

He thinks we played our best basketball when it matters most

We failed with availability. Succeeded in making the playoffs.

My takeaways:
Happy with Mosley, Franz, and Paolo. Win-now trades will happen to build around these stars and compliment Mosley's system.

[eyriq]

Weltman says we're out of the rebuild phase and transitioning into the win now phase. Whatever that means. He's talking about adding vets.

He had some deals at the deadline, but they were for expiring contract players.

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That means we've identified the core and now will build around them to win. Next season is about next season.

[basketballRob]

Going forward, they'll need to do swapping and not adding.

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[MartinsIzAfraud]

Weltman on 96.9 the Game this morning a few tidbits.

Weltman basically said that at the deadline they were only looking at expiring contracts and he didn't want to overpay for a 2-month rental.
He did say he's ready to turn the page and look at this summer as a WIN NOW PHASE.
The dual path is done, and they have to start making moves to push the roster to the next step and actually compete for something.
Nothing can be off the table for us, and we have to use the assets to acquire the next pieces now.
Paolo & Franz are battle tested, really showed a lot during the Boston series.
Did say we're going to have to get better offensively, and it will have to come at the cost of the defensive side but not completely overthrow that.
He's said WIN NOW multiple times.
Draft Capital we're in a strong position and Cap Flexibility we've got to maneuver that properly and again mentioned sacrificing defense for offense. Basically, said swap Offense for Defense has to be our goal this summer


I wouldn't be shocked if we saw Isaac play his last game in an Orlando magic jersey

[basketballRob]

I think he said we have 8 first round picks and the 5th most second round picks in the league, and those picks are good for tax teams. I'm not sure if he's advocating to trade picks or keep them.

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[Husky1]

Weltman on 96.9 the Game this morning a few tidbits.

Weltman basically said that at the deadline they were only looking at expiring contracts and he didn't want to overpay for a 2-month rental.
He did say he's ready to turn the page and look at this summer as a WIN NOW PHASE.
The dual path is done, and they have to start making moves to push the roster to the next step and actually compete for something.
Nothing can be off the table for us, and we have to use the assets to acquire the next pieces now.
Paolo & Franz are battle tested, really showed a lot during the Boston series.
Did say we're going to have to get better offensively, and it will have to come at the cost of the defensive side but not completely overthrow that.
He's said WIN NOW multiple times.
Draft Capital we're in a strong position and Cap Flexibility we've got to maneuver that properly and again mentioned sacrificing defense for offense. Basically, said swap Offense for Defense has to be our goal this summer


I wouldn't be shocked if we saw Isaac play his last game in an Orlando magic jersey

Anyone got a link ??

[Knightro]

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