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Post#122 » by BadMofoPimp » Sat Jun 14, 2025 8:48 pm

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Getting 4 players making over 35M with the new CBA is a recipe for disaster


Just some fantasy pipe dream with no reality of happening in the current NBA.
Cole/KCP makes the same as Poole.

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Let me set this straight. The only way the Magic make a stupid trade like this is in NBA2k. It is irrational and insane for a good, not great low BBIQ player. Not a chance in hell do they trade for a 4th $30 mil per player who isn't worth $30 mil much less $20-22 mil cap strapping this team for years to come. ZERO CHANCE, not even slim chance. And that is on top of the Wizards taking on a 33 year old KCP. Just irrational reasoning.
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Post#123 » by VFX » Sat Jun 14, 2025 9:03 pm

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Post#124 » by 89Magicfan » Sat Jun 14, 2025 9:09 pm

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I’d no longer follow the team lol



It would be a huge risk but if he can stay healthy and engaged, he might be a good move. It also could be the worse…Besides Poole of course lol
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I’d no longer follow the team lol



It would be a huge risk but if he can stay healthy and engaged, he might be a good move. It also could be the worse…Besides Poole of course lol


I would take Melo over Poole 10 times out of 10. But, I still cannot fathom taking on another $30 mil plus player.
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Post#126 » by Skybox » Sat Jun 14, 2025 9:16 pm

I think Lamelo would be an even bigger risk than Poole, all things considered

ORL sends: KCP, Goga Bitadze, Cole Anthony, #46
WAS sends: Poole, Kispert
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Post#127 » by VFX » Sat Jun 14, 2025 9:18 pm

Lol.

Melo
Morant
Dlo
And to a lesser extent Poole

Are all players I do not want to see in Orlando for various reasons. I don’t think Poole is actually that bad compared to the others.

By the way. Melo Ball requires real assets to acquire. Assets Orlando doesn’t really have.
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Post#128 » by cedric76 » Sat Jun 14, 2025 9:20 pm

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Just some fantasy pipe dream with no reality of happening in the current NBA.
Cole/KCP makes the same as Poole.

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Let me set this straight. The only way the Magic make a stupid trade like this is in NBA2k. It is irrational and insane for a good, not great low BBIQ player. Not a chance in hell do they trade for a 4th $30 mil per player who isn't worth $30 mil much less $20-22 mil cap strapping this team for years to come. ZERO CHANCE, not even slim chance. And that is on top of the Wizards taking on a 33 year old KCP. Just irrational reasoning.



And saying 2 contracts (KCP+ Cole)= 1 contract (Poole) doesn't help as you need to pay someone to fill that spot.

If you have 4 players making over 35M, you are gonna struggle paying the 11 other players
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
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Post#129 » by Knightro » Sat Jun 14, 2025 9:21 pm

cedric76 wrote:Getting 4 players making over 35M with the new CBA is a recipe for disaster


The Magic would only have four players making that much for one season if they acquired Poole.

And if Poole played well enough to justify a new contract, then that would mean the previous two seasons with him went REALLY well.
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Post#130 » by T-Cat » Sat Jun 14, 2025 9:30 pm

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Post#131 » by Skybox » Sat Jun 14, 2025 9:40 pm

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I’d no longer follow the team lol



It would be a huge risk but if he can stay healthy and engaged, he might be a good move. It also could be the worse…Besides Poole of course lol


I would take Melo over Poole 10 times out of 10. But, ORL sends: KCP, Goga Bitadze, Cole Anthony, #46
WAS sends: Poole, Kispert

I still cannot fathom taking on another $30 mil plus player.


You’ve made that pretty clear :roll:

…but it can work. Suggs makes $35 for one season, then it descends steeply as Paolo’s extension hits. Re-forming this squad’s salary balance is the realistic way contenders look - Top heavy is reality. Paying extremely limited guys like Cole $12m+ and KCP $22m and having 3 centers (none of whom is a quality starter) totaling $30m BEFORE WCJ’s extension hits is what’s unworkable. If we could offload salaries without frps for Poole, we’ll be in strong shape to use our draft equity towards further moves to strengthen our bench, offload more $$, or even just draft a high-upside prospect like Coward or Richardson AND a safe pick for a mature contributor like Raynaud or Clifford.

A couple of people seem to have suddenly learned of the CBA and it’s overtaken their worldview to an unreasonable degree. There is NO MAJOR move that doesn’t involve CBA-related risk. Salary, contract length, trade cost, player ceiling, floor, etc all factor in. Poole is certainly an enigma - when he’s good, he’s better than ALL of the guys we discuss here and yet, his volatility makes it (maybe) possible to get him WITHOUT EVEN A SINGLE FRP…that opens a whole lot of other scenarios. His contract is only as long as KCP’s, with an added $10 or 11m per- that’s not peanuts, but as long as KCP is part of the package going out, it’s manageable for a player that’s likely to contribute so significantly more offensively. If he craters (why would he? But…), it’s not even as daunting to me as WCJ or Suggs’ extensions potential for heartbreak.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#132 » by Skybox » Sat Jun 14, 2025 9:42 pm

cedric76 wrote:
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basketballRob wrote:Cole/KCP makes the same as Poole.

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Let me set this straight. The only way the Magic make a stupid trade like this is in NBA2k. It is irrational and insane for a good, not great low BBIQ player. Not a chance in hell do they trade for a 4th $30 mil per player who isn't worth $30 mil much less $20-22 mil cap strapping this team for years to come. ZERO CHANCE, not even slim chance. And that is on top of the Wizards taking on a 33 year old KCP. Just irrational reasoning.



And saying 2 contracts (KCP+ Cole)= 1 contract (Poole) doesn't help as you need to pay someone to fill that spot.

If you have 4 players making over 35M, you are gonna struggle paying the 11 other players


That’s a fallacy, you “upgrade” Cole with someone like Trev Queen or Walter Clayton for $2m
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#133 » by RookieStar » Sat Jun 14, 2025 10:11 pm

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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#134 » by RookieStar » Sat Jun 14, 2025 10:12 pm

Algith ill go first...

rob, where the heck and who are these guys you are quoting sources from?
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Post#135 » by basketballRob » Sat Jun 14, 2025 10:17 pm

RookieStar wrote:Algith ill go first...

rob, where the heck and who are these guys you are quoting sources from?
None of these reports are probably credible. It's all speculation, even if it comes from Stein and Fisher.

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Post#136 » by basketballRob » Sat Jun 14, 2025 10:50 pm

Seth Curry is working out over at Rollins College, and Steph liked the post on IG.

Seth married Doc's daughter, who is from Winter Park. That's probably why Steph bought a house in the area a couple of years ago.

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Post#137 » by eyriq » Sat Jun 14, 2025 10:57 pm

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Most people are down on AB but I feel like we are going to see a nice jump from him yr 3.


Facts.

AB just put up ~10/3/3 in year two and was arguably our 4th best player in the playoffs. A starting role is coming — and soon.



He is our 5/6th scoring option. All he needs to do is shoot 34% from 3 and he will be a problem. Elite defense. I don't get how people are so low on him. I understand he has games where he disappears, but he is 21. 12/4/4/2/1 is in his very near future. Fans will be begging for more AB on the court this season. I can see it now... "Should AB be starting?" thread before the ASG. You're the only one who sees it which is wild. Also, something nobody ever talks about with him, and I get it only 2 years but he's available. 78 games last year.

I think other teams have been including him in most trade scenarios with us and the organization has made it clear he's not available. Unless it's an all-in move like Maxey, Trae or maybe Murphy I do not see us trading AB and I'll be here when the fans apologize to you for be so so wrong about AB.

I have been debating which jersey I am getting this year and writing this made up my mind. White AB jersey for the home opener. Paolo Jordans on. Go MAGIC!


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Post#138 » by OrlandoMagic » Sat Jun 14, 2025 11:25 pm

Honestly I just want as many Vets on our team as we can afford. Plus make one really good splash for a solid PG
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#139 » by BadMofoPimp » Sun Jun 15, 2025 1:58 am

Skybox wrote:
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It would be a huge risk but if he can stay healthy and engaged, he might be a good move. It also could be the worse…Besides Poole of course lol


I would take Melo over Poole 10 times out of 10. But, ORL sends: KCP, Goga Bitadze, Cole Anthony, #46
WAS sends: Poole, Kispert

I still cannot fathom taking on another $30 mil plus player.


You’ve made that pretty clear :roll:

…but it can work. Suggs makes $35 for one season, then it descends steeply as Paolo’s extension hits. Re-forming this squad’s salary balance is the realistic way contenders look - Top heavy is reality. Paying extremely limited guys like Cole $12m+ and KCP $22m and having 3 centers (none of whom is a quality starter) totaling $30m BEFORE WCJ’s extension hits is what’s unworkable. If we could offload salaries without frps for Poole, we’ll be in strong shape to use our draft equity towards further moves to strengthen our bench, offload more $$, or even just draft a high-upside prospect like Coward or Richardson AND a safe pick for a mature contributor like Raynaud or Clifford.

A couple of people seem to have suddenly learned of the CBA and it’s overtaken their worldview to an unreasonable degree. There is NO MAJOR move that doesn’t involve CBA-related risk. Salary, contract length, trade cost, player ceiling, floor, etc all factor in. Poole is certainly an enigma - when he’s good, he’s better than ALL of the guys we discuss here and yet, his volatility makes it (maybe) possible to get him WITHOUT EVEN A SINGLE FRP…that opens a whole lot of other scenarios. His contract is only as long as KCP’s, with an added $10 or 11m per- that’s not peanuts, but as long as KCP is part of the package going out, it’s manageable for a player that’s likely to contribute so significantly more offensively. If he craters (why would he? But…), it’s not even as daunting to me as WCJ or Suggs’ extensions potential for heartbreak.


I have no problem paying $30 mil for a truly worth player. Poole is not that player. He is a $15-20 mil player masquerading as a $30 mil player and acts like he a star Wizards fans say. Don't need that around these players. I would rather pay Simons $30 mil for 2 years than Poole. Smart players.

Edit: I would rather take Middleton's 1 year rental over Poole's then target Simons in Free Agency if it comes to those options. Middleton would be cheap.
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Post#140 » by CLosP » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:17 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:
Skybox wrote:
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I would take Melo over Poole 10 times out of 10. But, ORL sends: KCP, Goga Bitadze, Cole Anthony, #46
WAS sends: Poole, Kispert

I still cannot fathom taking on another $30 mil plus player.


You’ve made that pretty clear :roll:

…but it can work. Suggs makes $35 for one season, then it descends steeply as Paolo’s extension hits. Re-forming this squad’s salary balance is the realistic way contenders look - Top heavy is reality. Paying extremely limited guys like Cole $12m+ and KCP $22m and having 3 centers (none of whom is a quality starter) totaling $30m BEFORE WCJ’s extension hits is what’s unworkable. If we could offload salaries without frps for Poole, we’ll be in strong shape to use our draft equity towards further moves to strengthen our bench, offload more $$, or even just draft a high-upside prospect like Coward or Richardson AND a safe pick for a mature contributor like Raynaud or Clifford.

A couple of people seem to have suddenly learned of the CBA and it’s overtaken their worldview to an unreasonable degree. There is NO MAJOR move that doesn’t involve CBA-related risk. Salary, contract length, trade cost, player ceiling, floor, etc all factor in. Poole is certainly an enigma - when he’s good, he’s better than ALL of the guys we discuss here and yet, his volatility makes it (maybe) possible to get him WITHOUT EVEN A SINGLE FRP…that opens a whole lot of other scenarios. His contract is only as long as KCP’s, with an added $10 or 11m per- that’s not peanuts, but as long as KCP is part of the package going out, it’s manageable for a player that’s likely to contribute so significantly more offensively. If he craters (why would he? But…), it’s not even as daunting to me as WCJ or Suggs’ extensions potential for heartbreak.


I have no problem paying $30 mil for a truly worth player. Poole is not that player. He is a $15-20 mil player masquerading as a $30 mil player and acts like he a star Wizards fans say. Don't need that around these players. I would rather pay Simons $30 mil for 2 years than Poole. Smart players.

Edit: I would rather take Middleton's 1 year rental over Poole's then target Simons in Free Agency if it comes to those options. Middleton would be cheap.


So you want Middleton who is more washed at a higher cost for a year then want to get Simons as a FA with no money to do so? You wanna talk about 2K…

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