2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

[ChildishGambino]

Quincy Miller is nowhere near the ball handler Hedo is. Hedo is 6'10'' and handles better than our backup PG.

I do like Miller as a prospect though.

You must not have seen much of Miller.

Ah thats a tough one because Miller does have natural handling ability, but really didn't show it off much in college. I would say Hedo is a better ball handler but Quincy has the ability to be better but Hedo really does have some sick handles.

hit the nail on the head there...i believe Q was trying to play under control and stayed in his own lane at Baylor.....but make no mistake Q has a bag of tricks....the hesitations....the crossovers....behind the backs....Q has very good handle for his size.....Durant-esque handle imho....he didn't lose his ball-handling because of the ACL....can't understate Q's handle...it's a big part of the reason why people think he's a creator or could be a creator in the league.....

[Cammo101]

Q has good handles, but Hedo has some of the best handles in the NBA for a forward.

[arkknight1988]

Quincy Miller is nowhere near the ball handler Hedo is. Hedo is 6'10'' and handles better than our backup PG.

I do like Miller as a prospect though.

You must not have seen much of Miller.

Ah thats a tough one because Miller does have natural handling ability, but really didn't show it off much in college. I would say Hedo is a better ball handler but Quincy has the ability to be better but Hedo really does have some sick handles.

he used to have good handles. he struggles with he ball now

[arkknight1988]

Q has good handles, but Hedo has some of the best handles in the NBA for a forward.

is this 2008?

[Noonskadoodle]

Q has good handles, but Hedo has some of the best handles in the NBA for a forward.

is this 2008?

Hedo doesn't really have great handles. He is a good PnR player but by no means does he break ppl down with the dribble off an ISO.

[Cammo101]

Hedo struggles getting the basket, but that is more about a lack of quickness, not ball handling. He can't get around guys like he used to, but he can still dribble.

[Skin]

Quincy Miller is nowhere near the ball handler Hedo is. Hedo is 6'10'' and handles better than our backup PG.

I do like Miller as a prospect though.

You must not have seen much of Miller.

I've seen plenty of Quincy Miller.

Then you have bad judgement. Miller's handle is so much better than Hedo's it's not funny.

[Cammo101]

Then you have bad judgement. Miller's handle is so much better than Hedo's it's not funny.

6'10'' and handles better than Hedo should really be able to get you more than 11 points and an assist and a half a game.

Miller is a good player, but if he handled like Hedo he'd still be in the lottery. I'd still be pretty happy if we picked him though.

[ChildishGambino]

Then you have bad judgement. Miller's handle is so much better than Hedo's it's not funny.

6'10'' and handles better than Hedo should really be able to get you more than 11 points and an assist and a half a game.

Miller is a good player, but if he handled like Hedo he'd still be in the lottery. I'd still be pretty happy if we picked him though.

imo the only reason why Miller is not in the lottery is the ACL concerns....that's it really....it's a legit concern though....

[Cammo101]

Then you have bad judgement. Miller's handle is so much better than Hedo's it's not funny.

6'10'' and handles better than Hedo should really be able to get you more than 11 points and an assist and a half a game.

Miller is a good player, but if he handled like Hedo he'd still be in the lottery. I'd still be pretty happy if we picked him though.

imo the only reason why Miller is not in the lottery is the ACL concerns....that's it really....it's a legit concern though....

He clearly was not the same player after the ACL injury. He lost a lot of explosion and never seemed to gain it back last year.

He was a freaky athlete in high school.

[Skin]

Then you have bad judgement. Miller's handle is so much better than Hedo's it's not funny.

6'10'' and handles better than Hedo should really be able to get you more than 11 points and an assist and a half a game.

Miller is a good player, but if he handled like Hedo he'd still be in the lottery. I'd still be pretty happy if we picked him though.

Now I see your problem. Ability doesn't always translate to the stat sheet. Especially a skill like ball handling.

[Cammo101]

Then you have bad judgement. Miller's handle is so much better than Hedo's it's not funny.

6'10'' and handles better than Hedo should really be able to get you more than 11 points and an assist and a half a game.

Miller is a good player, but if he handled like Hedo he'd still be in the lottery. I'd still be pretty happy if we picked him though.

Now I see your problem. Ability doesn't always translate to the stat sheet. Especially a skill like ball handling.

LOL. Your right, I have never watched him play and am just guessing.

[ChildishGambino]

@cammo
Yep that's why i said it's a legit concern.....but he's only one year removed from the injury and he's getting it back.....i mean Blake Griffin was able to come back better than ever from his injury no doubt in my mind that Q has the ability to get it back.....but it's all on him he has to put in the work.....but man if/when he does it get back he's going to be pretty good.....people are telling me that it was said that Quincy could of been the number 1 pick going into college he was that good.....then the injury happened and changed everything...but that's life...it has obstacles....

[Cammo101]

@cammo
Yep that's why i said it's a legit concern.....but he's only one year removed from the injury and he's getting it back.....i mean Blake Griffin was able to come back better than ever from his injury no doubt in my mind that Q has the ability to get it back.....but it's all on him he has to put in the work.....but man if/when he does it get back he's going to be pretty good.....

It is possible, but a sluggish season after the injury is scary. Blake didn't really have that. I think he could certainly be worth the risk at #19 though depending who else is still on the board.

[Truth24]

I really wouldn't say he was a freaky athlete in high school more like he was a decent athlete and lost that decent part with his acl. I do think he is getting some of his old athletic ability back but you can still see that he isn't fully back.

[magicman123]

Q miller has good handles but his lack of speed pretty much cancels that out when getting by defenders. hes got a nice cross over though

[Cammo101]

I really wouldn't say he was a freaky athlete in high school more like he was a decent athlete and lost that decent part with his acl. I do think he is getting some of his old athletic ability back but you can still see that he isn't fully back.

There are not many 6'10'' high schoolers with the level of athletic ability Miller had before he blew out his ACL.

[Truth24]

I really wouldn't say he was a freaky athlete in high school more like he was a decent athlete and lost that decent part with his acl. I do think he is getting some of his old athletic ability back but you can still see that he isn't fully back.

There are not many 6'10'' high schoolers with the level of athletic ability Miller had before he blew out his ACL.

That might be true, but there are plenty 6'7-6'9 guys that are tons more athletic. Quincy just has never really been that athletic of a player.

[ChildishGambino]

Either way Quincy's claim to fame was never really athleticism even in High school it was the fact that he was so skilled....He didn't lose those skills...what's lost is some of the effectiveness the athleticism added to his skills.....it's all about getting back to 100% and if he can i believe he can be a very effective scorer and defender in this league.....To me at 19 he has too much potential on both ends of the floor to pass up unless Perry Jones is still there for some reason....

[mcaul55]

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If Hedo is a better ball handler then Quincy, then Dwight's a better free throw shooter then Ray Allen.