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Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXXVIII Off-Season Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXXVIII Off-Season Editi 

Post#1201 » by GameOver25 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:40 am

cb1115 wrote:@Al_Iannazzone: The Knicks are not matching the offer sheet to Landry Fields, his agent said.


Landry Fields? I thought he was with Toronto already.
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Post#1202 » by thelead » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:41 am

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cb1115 wrote:@Al_Iannazzone: The Knicks are not matching the offer sheet to Landry Fields, his agent said.


Landry Fields?


Toronto signed him.
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Post#1203 » by GameOver25 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:42 am

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GameOver25 wrote:
cb1115 wrote:@Al_Iannazzone: The Knicks are not matching the offer sheet to Landry Fields, his agent said.


Landry Fields?


Toronto signed him.


Ok, I was under the assumption it was official already.
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Post#1204 » by SEBAS-07 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:43 am

I factor age and salary when making opinions. Jameer is not getting better, he is an undersized, injury prone player with an $18 million contract. I rather have CJ Watson at vet min.
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Post#1205 » by cvMagic » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:44 am

T-Rob wrote:
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ThatFloridaDude wrote:I dont see the Hype about parsons. lamb will be good.





The hype for Parsons is that a lot of Magic fans are Gator fans. That basically sums it up.


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Post#1206 » by DiplomaticMagic » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:44 am

cj watson is freakin garbage
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXXVIII Off-Season Editi 

Post#1207 » by cb1115 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:45 am

@pinglocal6: I can report from sources that lakers ownership saying no deal as of yet to

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Post#1208 » by MagicStarwipe » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:46 am

When Jameer is on his game, he can take it to any PG in the league.
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Post#1209 » by cvMagic » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:47 am

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Correction:
the magic will take anything BUT Anderson Varejao plus picks and prospects
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXXVIII Off-Season Editi 

Post#1210 » by CPBalla2003 n da 863 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:47 am

MagicStarwipe wrote:When Jameer is on his game, he can take it to any PG in the league.


Agreed.
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Post#1211 » by thelead » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:52 am

CPBalla2003 n da 863 wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:When Jameer is on his game, he can take it to any PG in the league.


Agreed.


yeah, but his problem has always been consistency. You never know which Jameer you're gonna get.
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Post#1212 » by cvMagic » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:52 am

Orlando Tragic wrote:Tony Mejia
ORLANDO – At this time next week, the Dwightmare may not be over.

This is a change from yesterday’s report, which detailed Orlando’s Dwight Howard would finally be moved to Houston, but league business delays keep pushing back the timetable. Houston is creating income for the league coffers by forcing the Knicks deep into the luxury tax three years from now with a toxic offer for Jeremy Lin.

As a result, New York is annoying Houston by avoiding the offer sheet.

The Magic are interested in clearing Jason Richardson, Glen Davis, Chris Duhon, Quentin Richardson’s and Hedo Turkoglu’s – contracts, likely in that order despite the fact Turkoglu is due the largest salary, 11.82 this season and a $12 million player option that will be taken in ’13-’14. The thought is his expiring deal could be an asset at that point.

Kevin Martin’s $12 million expiring contract will be the major piece the Rockets send over, but the Magic would be able to choose from a collection of prospects including local product Chandler Parsons, Patrick Patterson, Marcus Morris and 2012 draft picks Jeremy Lamb, Royce White and Terrence Jones to accompany him in the deal. Future draft picks will also move, with the lottery-guaranteed selection the Rockets are getting from Toronto in the Kyle Lowry deal being especially coveted.

If Chicago allows Asik to walk, sources say the steal could still be re-worked to appease Orlando enough to end the saga.

Reports that the Rockets aren’t willing to take on so much salary if they’re also dealing considerable assets can be taken as a shrewd pre-emptive strike from a negotiation standpoint, but if Houston whiffs on both Lin and Asik, it really has little choice considering the franchise’s desire to utilize its assets to land a franchise-type player like Howard.

http://www.probasketballnews.com/news/s ... dd-howard/


Exactly!

I was ranting about this late last night. Houston is desperate for Dwight.
Has any team EVER tried to land one player as long as the Rockets have been after Dwight??

This is merely Henny showing the rockets what they MUST beat to get Dwight. The Rockets will cave because quite frankly... what other option do they have?
They are stuck in mediocrity - this is all they can do to get out of it.
Here's what happened...

Rockets: Here's our offer.
Magic: Not good enough.
Rockets: then beat it.

Henny called their bluff and went out and is attempting to.

They WILL break.
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Post#1213 » by MagicMan89 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:54 am

Nelson
Career 12.4 PPG 5.0 APG 3.0 RPG
Watson
Career 7.8 PPG 2.6 APG 1.9 RPG

Lets stop the Nelson bashing. At 6 Million I love him leading our young players as we rebuild.
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Post#1214 » by cvMagic » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:55 am

OrlandO wrote:
The Effect wrote:this all better be a bluff to get houston to realize they would miss out on both bynum and dwight


Exactly!
You have to strum up competition in order to negotiate.
Otherwise, what is there to negotiate?
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Post#1215 » by davngab » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:55 am

MagicMan89 wrote:Nelson
Career 12.4 PPG 5.0 APG 3.0 RPG
Watson
Career 7.8 PPG 2.6 APG 1.9 RPG

Lets stop the Nelson bashing. At 6 Million I love him leading our young players as we rebuild.
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Post#1216 » by ThatFloridaDude » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:57 am

OrlandO wrote:I think houston would want Dwight more than ever if they get Lin...

This. It's the obvious. +1
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXXVIII Off-Season Editi 

Post#1217 » by cvMagic » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:58 am

fart wrote:
InFlames wrote:
fart wrote:^^^ can you please tell me the houston deal as I am unfamiliar with it. Sorry guys, I'm not trying to troll your board, just trying to understand what magic have been offered that's better than that. we are just having fun with this anyway so don't get upset with some of my posts here, thanks.


The bare minimum Houston would do is something like Martin, Lamb, Toronto 1st for Dwight/whatever. That blows yours out of the water.



Kevin martin (im not exactly sure why you would want him)
one pick that will probably be in the teens
and this year's 12th pick

vs.

last year's 4th pick
+4 first rounders over the next two years

am I missing something here?


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXXVIII Off-Season Editi 

Post#1218 » by zapatasblood » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:59 am

cvMagic wrote:
Orlando Tragic wrote:Tony Mejia
ORLANDO – At this time next week, the Dwightmare may not be over.

This is a change from yesterday’s report, which detailed Orlando’s Dwight Howard would finally be moved to Houston, but league business delays keep pushing back the timetable. Houston is creating income for the league coffers by forcing the Knicks deep into the luxury tax three years from now with a toxic offer for Jeremy Lin.

As a result, New York is annoying Houston by avoiding the offer sheet.

The Magic are interested in clearing Jason Richardson, Glen Davis, Chris Duhon, Quentin Richardson’s and Hedo Turkoglu’s – contracts, likely in that order despite the fact Turkoglu is due the largest salary, 11.82 this season and a $12 million player option that will be taken in ’13-’14. The thought is his expiring deal could be an asset at that point.

Kevin Martin’s $12 million expiring contract will be the major piece the Rockets send over, but the Magic would be able to choose from a collection of prospects including local product Chandler Parsons, Patrick Patterson, Marcus Morris and 2012 draft picks Jeremy Lamb, Royce White and Terrence Jones to accompany him in the deal. Future draft picks will also move, with the lottery-guaranteed selection the Rockets are getting from Toronto in the Kyle Lowry deal being especially coveted.

If Chicago allows Asik to walk, sources say the steal could still be re-worked to appease Orlando enough to end the saga.

Reports that the Rockets aren’t willing to take on so much salary if they’re also dealing considerable assets can be taken as a shrewd pre-emptive strike from a negotiation standpoint, but if Houston whiffs on both Lin and Asik, it really has little choice considering the franchise’s desire to utilize its assets to land a franchise-type player like Howard.

http://www.probasketballnews.com/news/s ... dd-howard/


Exactly!

I was ranting about this late last night. Houston is desperate for Dwight.
Has any team EVER tried to land one player as long as the Rockets have been after Dwight??

This is merely Henny showing the rockets what they MUST beat to get Dwight. The Rockets will cave because quite frankly... what other option do they have?
They are stuck in mediocrity - this is all they can do to get out of it.
Here's what happened...

Rockets: Here's our offer.
Magic: Not good enough.
Rockets: then beat it.

Henny called their bluff and went out and is attempting to.

They WILL break.

With the team we have we would be worse then mediocre. :D

Which is what I hope happens.
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Post#1219 » by TDJacksonville » Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:00 am

cvMagic wrote:
The Effect wrote:
Probasketballdraft ‏@Probballdraft
According to multiple sources Magic would likely get Anderson Varejao plus picks and prospects.

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Correction:
the magic will take anything BUT Anderson Varejao plus picks and prospects
varejao aint a bad big. prospect wise maybe they offer us thompson and their 2 right to international players in Milan Macvan(6 foot 9 265 pound PF/C) who lacks Athletic Abilities but is a good player which is why i think hes be like a Big Baby davis kinda player. Ejike Ugboaja is a Small Power forward/center(6 foot 9 229 pounds) whos pretty worthless as it seems hes not interested in coming over.
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Post#1220 » by troybiles » Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:01 am

It really shouldn't effect the deals we do with Houston this year because it is only 5 mil this year for Lin. Not too much salary. I'm sure that was factored in when they changed the offer sheet. I wonder if they will do something similar to Asik. Then they can get Asik too with that kind of offer. Maybe they can give us DM and we can wait until August 3. I don't mind waiting until then if we can get him. I think he can be a very good Center for us for the future.

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