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Re: Shams: The season is suspended / Coronavirus Thread 

Post#1201 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon Apr 6, 2020 10:19 pm

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Gomagic44 wrote:Don't forget the lady over the weekend who told reporters as she drove out of a huge church service that she is "covered in the blood of Christ" and thus unconcerned.

I find the difference between Judaism and Christianity when it comes to these things to be very interesting. Jewish thought when it comes to following God's laws is that when it is threatening to your life, it's ok to change for the time being. The idea is you are to live with God's laws, not die by them unnecessarily.

I think the Protestant Christian communities largely avoiding science and reason in these instances unnecessarily stupid. I know it's not all of them, but it's just really bad optics for their faith in other's eyes.

Why help the homeless and poor when you can ignore a viral outbreak to collect money!

On a positive note I imagine Pastor Joel Hunter is actually feeding the homeless and doing his best to show "God's love". Sadly he doesn't get the press coverage he deserves. I am not religious but I grew up going to Northland and he is the best messenger I ever met. Truly a Christ like figure.


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As a Christian, I would say that most super-religious Christians just ignore science. I don't know if it's the teachings that make you want to bend science for your beliefs or just ignorance but there is a severe lack of respect for science in Christianity as a whole.


Our country was founded on a group of people who's religion was too radical for Europe at the time, and we've had to drag them through history all the way up until now. Faith may be good for the soul, but facts are better for your head. :wink:



Dont worry guys, Kenneth Copeland has blown the virus away........

American televangelist Kenneth Copeland, who recently claimed that the coronavirus pandemic will be "over much sooner you think" because "Christian people all over this country praying have overwhelmed it," has summoned the "wind of God" to destroy the novel coronavirus during a recent sermon.

Before blowing at the camera, he said: "I blow the wind of God on you. You are destroyed forever, and you'll never be back. Thank you, God. Let it happen. Cause it to happen."

Leading a chant surrounded by members of his church and preaching to an empty room, he called out: "Wind, almighty, strong, south wind, Heat: Burn this thing, in the name of Jesus. I say, you bow your knees. You fall on your face."

In a sermon last month, the pastor "executed judgment" on Covid-19, which he declared "finished" and "over" and made the US "healed and well again." He also demanded "a vaccination to come immediately."


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Post#1202 » by spinedoc » Mon Apr 6, 2020 10:28 pm

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spinedoc wrote:
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As a Christian, I would say that most super-religious Christians just ignore science. I don't know if it's the teachings that make you want to bend science for your beliefs or just ignorance but there is a severe lack of respect for science in Christianity as a whole.


Our country was founded on a group of people who's religion was too radical for Europe at the time, and we've had to drag them through history all the way up until now. Faith may be good for the soul, but facts are better for your head. :wink:



Dont worry guys, Kenneth Copeland has blown the virus away........

American televangelist Kenneth Copeland, who recently claimed that the coronavirus pandemic will be "over much sooner you think" because "Christian people all over this country praying have overwhelmed it," has summoned the "wind of God" to destroy the novel coronavirus during a recent sermon.

Before blowing at the camera, he said: "I blow the wind of God on you. You are destroyed forever, and you'll never be back. Thank you, God. Let it happen. Cause it to happen."

Leading a chant surrounded by members of his church and preaching to an empty room, he called out: "Wind, almighty, strong, south wind, Heat: Burn this thing, in the name of Jesus. I say, you bow your knees. You fall on your face."

In a sermon last month, the pastor "executed judgment" on Covid-19, which he declared "finished" and "over" and made the US "healed and well again." He also demanded "a vaccination to come immediately."


https://www.yahoo.com/news/televangelist-kennth-copeland-blows-wind-194622515.html


Wind is the right term for it, now that is what a hoax looks like people. :lol:
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Post#1203 » by Gomagic44 » Mon Apr 6, 2020 10:32 pm

Anyone listen to the secnav's message to the crew of the carrier who's captain got fired?

As a navy veteran it is bizarre. What a bad look by the administration. You don't need to explain your power over a ship as the secretary of the navy. But this guy feels the need to talk trash about their former captain and tell them to "do their jobs". What a mini mess on top of this **** sandwich.

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Post#1204 » by nymets1 » Mon Apr 6, 2020 11:04 pm

Last night's numbers as of 7:30 pm from bing.com/covid

USA-336,537 confirmed cases(+24,782 increase), Recoveries-17,376(+2943 increase), Deaths- 9611(+1204 increase)
Florida- 12,350 confirmed cases( +805 increase), 0 recoveries, (keep an eye on Florida)
California- 13,438 confirmed cases(+2137 increase)
Georgia- 6742 confirmed cases( +582 increase), (Keep an eye on Georgia)
Illinois- 11,256 confirmed cases( +899 increase)
Louisana- 13,010 confirmed cases(+514 increase), (keep an eye on Lousiana)
Mass- 12,500 confirmed cases(+764 increase), 3218 recoveries (Keep an eye on Mass)
Michigan- 14,225 confirmed cases( Same as last night)
New Jersey- 37,505 confirmed cases( +3365 increase)
New York- 122,031 confirmed cases( +6618 increase)
Penn- 11,510 confirmed cases( +1493 increase)
Texas- 6685 confirmed cases( +702 increase), (keep an eye on Texas)
Washington- 8518 confirmed cases( +760 increase), (keep an eye on Washington)

South Korea- 3591 active cases
Italy- 128,948 confirmed cases( +3497 increase), Recoveries- 21,815(+819 increase)
Spain- 131, 646 confirmed cases( +1617 increase), Recoveries- 38,080(+3861 increase)
Germany- 100,123 confirmed cases, Recoveries- 25,280, Active cases- 73,259

1. Georgia, Texas and Washington now have 4 consecutive days(Thur,Fri,Sat,Sun) of low confirmed cases each day.
2. Florida, Lousiana and Massachussets kept their increase in new confirmed cases under 1000 today. Is it because we are on the weekend and something about there are less tests/ less workers? No because today California increased by 2137 cases, New Jersey by 3365 increase, New York well over 5000 increase and even Pennsylvania increased over 1000 cases. So we'll find out by the end of Monday what Florida, Louisana and Massachussets show by their increase in confirmed cases.

3. New York has most of the recoveries in the USA with 12,187 out of 17,394
4. Spain is really good at their recoveries per day, Another almost 4000 recoveries today, Spain has now had 4 consecutive days of/at around 4000 recoveries per day.
5. To me it appears the country we should be idolizing the most with this coronavirus is SPAIN especially their large recoveries these past 4 days. Italy is the 2nd country we look at, followed by South Korea.
6. USA is catching up to Italy with recoveries- USA- 17,394 recoveries VS Italy- 21,815 recoveries
7. Now tracking Germany OMG I slept on Germany on the leaderboard but I now I see they hit 100,000 confirmed cases.
8. USA recoveries will catch Germany soon. USA- 17,394 recoveries vs Germany- 25,280 recoveries

Today's numbers as of 7:30pm from bing.com/covid

USA-366,153 confirmed cases(+27,488 increase), Recoveries- 19,522(+2128 increase), Deaths- 10,831(+1220)
Florida- 13,629 confirmed cases(+1279 increase)
California- 15,823 confirmed cases(+2985 increase)
Connecticut- 6906 confirmed cases( +1630 increase), That's a small state to have that many cases
Georgia- 7558 confirmed cases( +816 increase), (Continuing to watch Georgia)
Illinois- 12,262 confirmed cases( +1006 increase)
Louisana- 14,867 confirmed cases(+1857 increase)
Mass- 13,837 confirmed cases(+1337 increase)
Michigan- 17,221 confirmed cases(+2996 increase)
New Jersey- 41,090 confirmed cases(+3585 increase)
New York- 130,689 confirmed cases(+7479 increase)
Penn- 12,980 confirmed cases(+1470 increase)
Texas- 7276 confirmed cases(+464 increase), (Continuing to watch Texas)
Washington- 8519 confirmed cases(+287 increase), (Continuing to watch Washington)

South Korea- 3500 active cases
Italy-132,547 confirmed cases(+2577 increase), Recoveries- 22,837(+1022 increase)
Spain-135,032 confirmed cases(+1029 increase), Recoveries- 40,437(+2357 increase)
Germany- 102,179 confirmed cases(+2056 increase)

1.Georgia, Texas and Washington now with 5 straight days of low increase in new confirmed cases(Thur,Fri,Sat,Sun,Mon)
2. Connecticut I just started to follow
3. New York with the most recoveries in the USA with 13,366 out of 18,940
4. Spain is really good with their recoveries after having 4 straight days of/at around 4000 recoveries per day only had 2357 increase today but still a really good number in recoveries today.
5. The countries we look at the most in following the coronavirus(Spain, Italy,Germany, South Korea)
6. USA recoveries is 18,940 vs Italy recoveries is 22,837
7. Germany's recoveries is 25,280
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Post#1205 » by spinedoc » Mon Apr 6, 2020 11:19 pm

nymets1 wrote:Tennessee- 7276 confirmed cases(+3955 increase), (Just starting to track them)
2. Connecticut and Tennessee I just started to follow. Those are small states with high confirmed cases.


Okay, that got my attention. Where are you getting these numbers again? I've been following the TN board of health, and here is what they're showing, 3802 cases.
https://www.tn.gov/health/cedep/ncov.html
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Post#1206 » by spinedoc » Mon Apr 6, 2020 11:26 pm

Gomagic44 wrote:Anyone listen to the secnav's message to the crew of the carrier who's captain got fired?

As a navy veteran it is bizarre. What a bad look by the administration. You don't need to explain your power over a ship as the secretary of the navy. But this guy feels the need to talk trash about their former captain and tell them to "do their jobs". What a mini mess on top of this **** sandwich.

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I listened to it today, it disgusted me. I too am a veteran and I never imagined the Secretary of the Army to address me and bad mouth my commander. It didn't go over well with the crew either.
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Post#1207 » by nymets1 » Mon Apr 6, 2020 11:42 pm

spinedoc wrote:
nymets1 wrote:Tennessee- 7276 confirmed cases(+3955 increase), (Just starting to track them)
2. Connecticut and Tennessee I just started to follow. Those are small states with high confirmed cases.


Okay, that got my attention. Where are you getting these numbers again? I've been following the TN board of health, and here is what they're showing, 3802 cases.
https://www.tn.gov/health/cedep/ncov.html



bing.com/covid

When I did my update it showed on the website that Tennessee had 7276 confirmed cases(+3955 increase). Right now it's showing 3802 confirmed cases(+3955 increase).

You can't have a +3955 increase in confirmed cases with a total 3802 cases. This website is frustrating at times when they move their numbers down due to a typing error or whatever the case. Could they see me posting their numbers from their site and be a di-k and lower the numbers.

For now I edited my post and took out Tennessee.
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Post#1208 » by spinedoc » Mon Apr 6, 2020 11:51 pm

nymets1 wrote:
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nymets1 wrote:Tennessee- 7276 confirmed cases(+3955 increase), (Just starting to track them)
2. Connecticut and Tennessee I just started to follow. Those are small states with high confirmed cases.


Okay, that got my attention. Where are you getting these numbers again? I've been following the TN board of health, and here is what they're showing, 3802 cases.
https://www.tn.gov/health/cedep/ncov.html



bing.com/covid

When I did my update it showed on the website that Tennessee had 7276 confirmed cases(+3955 increase). Right now it's showing 3802 confirmed cases(+3955 increase).

You can't have a +3955 increase in confirmed cases with a total 3802 cases. This website is frustrating at times when they move their numbers down due to a typing error or whatever the case. Could they see me posting their numbers from their site and be a di-k and lower the numbers.


Okay, thank you. I don't see the increase numbers that you are talking about, but I hover over TN and it says 3802 cases, 3442 active, 295 recovered, and 65 dead. I hope that's right.
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Post#1209 » by nymets1 » Mon Apr 6, 2020 11:58 pm

spinedoc wrote:
nymets1 wrote:
spinedoc wrote:
Okay, that got my attention. Where are you getting these numbers again? I've been following the TN board of health, and here is what they're showing, 3802 cases.
https://www.tn.gov/health/cedep/ncov.html



bing.com/covid

When I did my update it showed on the website that Tennessee had 7276 confirmed cases(+3955 increase). Right now it's showing 3802 confirmed cases(+3955 increase).

You can't have a +3955 increase in confirmed cases with a total 3802 cases. This website is frustrating at times when they move their numbers down due to a typing error or whatever the case. Could they see me posting their numbers from their site and be a di-k and lower the numbers.


Okay, thank you. I don't see the increase numbers that you are talking about, but I hover over TN and it says 3802 cases, 3442 active, 295 recovered, and 65 dead. I hope that's right.


Your missing the +3955 to the right of that 3442 number for the active cases. You can't have a total of 3802 confirmed cases and +3955 and still have Tennesee confirmed cases at 3802. If that +3955 stays there, It should be 3955+3802 which = 7757. Otherwise they need to eliminate +3955.
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Post#1210 » by nymets1 » Tue Apr 7, 2020 12:08 am

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

This website works also. It looks like the increase in cases for states like Georgia,Texas,California and Washington,etc are different than on bing.

California- +956 increase
Washington- +332 increase
Texas- +275 increase
Georgia- +572 increase

On bing.com/covid it shows

California- +2985 increase
Washington- +161 increase
Texas- +464 increase
Georgia- +816 increase

Both sites have Connecticut and Florida with the exact same increase of (Connecticut) +1231 and Florida +1279.

Most of the time the websites are dead on with the same numbers/close between the 2 websites but at times the numbers from the 2 sites can be different. Georgia, Texas and Washington continue to do a really great job with low increase in confirmed cases the last 5 days.
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Post#1211 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Apr 7, 2020 4:40 am

So turns out Trump is invested in pharmacuticals that make the miracle drug he keeps hawking on the press conferences....and of course no one will do anything about it. Sickening. Is this country so distracted, easily misled, and beaten down into submission that people aren't willing to stand up and say enough???
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Post#1212 » by axl_c_cool » Tue Apr 7, 2020 8:58 am

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Gomagic44 wrote:I think some people are just skeptics at heart to the end. I don't think it's a left or right thing. You have the flu Bros on the right and at work I have the mind control device vaccine people on the left. And I imagine that those two groups want to tear each other's throats out. Pandemics make strange bedfellows.

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Post#1213 » by spinedoc » Tue Apr 7, 2020 11:30 am

Optimus_Steel wrote:So turns out Trump is invested in pharmacuticals that make the miracle drug he keeps hawking on the press conferences....and of course no one will do anything about it. Sickening. Is this country so distracted, easily misled, and beaten down into submission that people aren't willing to stand up and say enough???


Yeah, both Trump and Wilbur Ross, the Commerce Secretary, are tied to investments for the drug. I've got one that will Trump that, lol. It turns out he is trying to buy the exclusive rights to a promising vaccine from a German biotech lab as well. What ever happened to ethics? Because, this is the opposite of that.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/16/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-big-pharma-president-drugs-industry-profit
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Post#1214 » by basketballRob » Tue Apr 7, 2020 12:26 pm

A good site to track coronavirus.


https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/04/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

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Post#1215 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Apr 7, 2020 12:48 pm

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Optimus_Steel wrote:So turns out Trump is invested in pharmacuticals that make the miracle drug he keeps hawking on the press conferences....and of course no one will do anything about it. Sickening. Is this country so distracted, easily misled, and beaten down into submission that people aren't willing to stand up and say enough???


Yeah, both Trump and Wilbur Ross, the Commerce Secretary, are tied to investments for the drug. I've got one that will Trump that, lol. It turns out he is trying to buy the exclusive rights to a promising vaccine from a German biotech lab as well. What ever happened to ethics? Because, this is the opposite of that.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/16/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-big-pharma-president-drugs-industry-profit



How long before he goes "buy three doses of hydroxychloroquine now and get half off a case of Trump water to wash it down" during the daily press briefings?
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Post#1216 » by tiderulz » Tue Apr 7, 2020 1:06 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:So turns out Trump is invested in pharmacuticals that make the miracle drug he keeps hawking on the press conferences....and of course no one will do anything about it. Sickening. Is this country so distracted, easily misled, and beaten down into submission that people aren't willing to stand up and say enough???

i dont ding him too much for this. It is a legit possibility for treatment. I personally think he never really wanted to be president, he just wanted the publicity for the run and then enjoyed being in charge. He was already used to scrutiny and bad press. But he also criticized Obama for his handling of the Swine Flu, called out the death numbers. Now he is dealing with his own situation, making being president hard. He wants a miracle cure out there quickly, that he will use as his big accomplishment to get re-elected.
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Post#1217 » by tiderulz » Tue Apr 7, 2020 1:08 pm

spinedoc wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:So turns out Trump is invested in pharmacuticals that make the miracle drug he keeps hawking on the press conferences....and of course no one will do anything about it. Sickening. Is this country so distracted, easily misled, and beaten down into submission that people aren't willing to stand up and say enough???


Yeah, both Trump and Wilbur Ross, the Commerce Secretary, are tied to investments for the drug. I've got one that will Trump that, lol. It turns out he is trying to buy the exclusive rights to a promising vaccine from a German biotech lab as well. What ever happened to ethics? Because, this is the opposite of that.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/16/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-big-pharma-president-drugs-industry-profit

ehh, he wasnt looking to buy it personally using his own money and licensing for him. He was using administration money. Wanted initial primary access to the US. Like my post above, he wants a cure out quickly to use for re-election. I dont view this as a money move, though it is an ego move that give the world a dimmer view of the US

edit:if you look, Trump's investment is tiny. maybe about $2k. im no Trump fan, but i dont think his pushing of this is for money

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-small-financial-ties-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-drug-maker-2020-4
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Post#1218 » by basketballRob » Tue Apr 7, 2020 2:00 pm

tiderulz wrote:
spinedoc wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:So turns out Trump is invested in pharmacuticals that make the miracle drug he keeps hawking on the press conferences....and of course no one will do anything about it. Sickening. Is this country so distracted, easily misled, and beaten down into submission that people aren't willing to stand up and say enough???


Yeah, both Trump and Wilbur Ross, the Commerce Secretary, are tied to investments for the drug. I've got one that will Trump that, lol. It turns out he is trying to buy the exclusive rights to a promising vaccine from a German biotech lab as well. What ever happened to ethics? Because, this is the opposite of that.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/16/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-big-pharma-president-drugs-industry-profit

ehh, he wasnt looking to buy it personally using his own money and licensing for him. He was using administration money. Wanted initial primary access to the US. Like my post above, he wants a cure out quickly to use for re-election. I dont view this as a money move, though it is an ego move that give the world a dimmer view of the US

edit:if you look, Trump's investment is tiny. maybe about $2k. im no Trump fan, but i dont think his pushing of this is for money

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-small-financial-ties-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-drug-maker-2020-4
I think it can minimally help some people. It's not going to save someone from dying.
Many other drugs could be better.


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Post#1219 » by spinedoc » Tue Apr 7, 2020 3:21 pm

tiderulz wrote:
spinedoc wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:So turns out Trump is invested in pharmacuticals that make the miracle drug he keeps hawking on the press conferences....and of course no one will do anything about it. Sickening. Is this country so distracted, easily misled, and beaten down into submission that people aren't willing to stand up and say enough???


Yeah, both Trump and Wilbur Ross, the Commerce Secretary, are tied to investments for the drug. I've got one that will Trump that, lol. It turns out he is trying to buy the exclusive rights to a promising vaccine from a German biotech lab as well. What ever happened to ethics? Because, this is the opposite of that.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/16/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-big-pharma-president-drugs-industry-profit

ehh, he wasnt looking to buy it personally using his own money and licensing for him. He was using administration money. Wanted initial primary access to the US. Like my post above, he wants a cure out quickly to use for re-election. I dont view this as a money move, though it is an ego move that give the world a dimmer view of the US

edit:if you look, Trump's investment is tiny. maybe about $2k. im no Trump fan, but i dont think his pushing of this is for money

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-small-financial-ties-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-drug-maker-2020-4


I haven't seen information if he is representing the country or himself yet. I don't think he believes there is a difference. He still wanted to have exclusive rights to the vaccine. I seriously doubt that he would make it available to all people for free. Either way, its a conflict of interest, same goes for his investment in the drug company, no matter how small, and his close friends of course. The President of the United States should be divested from all business interests to nullify even the appearance of an inherent conflict. Every other President has done it before, and turning it over to your kids doesn't count, especially if you are going to give them jobs in the white house. With the latest being the Covid task force, how many things are Jared and Ivanka in charge of now? Imagine if Chelsea Clinton, Hunter Biden, or their spouses were involved this much, they would be going nuts.

Edit: I do agree with you though, Trump is looking for a quick fix and is mostly focused on that aspect.
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Post#1220 » by Gomagic44 » Tue Apr 7, 2020 4:38 pm

I agree with you Tide that he is looking for a way out of this mess. It is also a conflict of interest. But that horse has been beaten to death with no real world consequences for Mr. Trump. It was before my time but I am amazed that President Carter had to put his peanut farm in a blind trust. Compared to the nepotism of this administration it just seems like it's a different country now.

I didn't see the presser last night but I don't think I can avoid the dumpster fire again tonight. I am assuming NY and the northeast is getting over the wave?

Went to Publix yesterday afternoon and it was a ghost town. Half the employees are wearing masks. Half the customers as well. Ironically it was the younger couples mostly wearing the masks. Nearly no senior citizens were wearing masks. Not a single old man wore a mask.

I'm so used to working so much that I'm not used to caring for a 6 month old. This is exhausting lol. I've got a newfound respect for my wife who does this every day. I can't imagine having twins. Those poor souls!

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