Official Speculation Thread (Pt XVI, Mods Close)

BadMofoPimp · Post #1221 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:05 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:BTW if we have to trade both JJ and Ryan to get Ellis, I think I rather go after Nash and keep one of them.

Only trade JJ and Ryno for Ellis if Dwight at least opts in. Otherwise, I would rather not take on Ellis and Biedrins contracts as they go through 2014.

backasswards · Post #1222 » by **backasswards** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:05 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:BTW if we have to trade both JJ and Ryan to get Ellis, I think I rather go after Nash and keep one of them.

You can't get Nash and keep one of them. You're not getting Nash with just Redick.

bigdogdylan5 · Post #1223 » by **bigdogdylan5** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:07 am

backasswards wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:BTW if we have to trade both JJ and Ryan to get Ellis, I think I rather go after Nash and keep one of them.

You can't get Nash and keep one of them. You're not getting Nash with just Redick.

Were not getting Nash period Phx has said 100 times that they arent gonna trade him

RickB-Orlando · Post #1224 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:08 am

backasswards wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:BTW if we have to trade both JJ and Ryan to get Ellis, I think I rather go after Nash and keep one of them.

You can't get Nash and keep one of them. You're not getting Nash with just Redick.

I'm not sure I follow the logic here. Nash is 38 years old and also a free agent at the end of the year. You don't ~need~ to include both Ryan and JJ in a deal for Nash anymore. One of them, probably, and Nelson almost certainly goes as well.

So a straight deal of Nelson plus either JJ or Ryan for Nash works under the cap, and is a pretty good return for a very good, but very old, Point Guard.

DiplomaticMagic · Post #1225 » by **DiplomaticMagic** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:11 am

backasswards wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:BTW if we have to trade both JJ and Ryan to get Ellis, I think I rather go after Nash and keep one of them.

You can't get Nash and keep one of them. You're not getting Nash with just Redick.

I don't see why not. I don't think Nash is gonna re-sign with PHX in the off-season, they should just pair him with Frye and get something while they can. They're not going anywhere this year or anytime soon. And he's friggin 38

backasswards · Post #1226 » by **backasswards** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:12 am

bigdogdylan5 wrote:
backasswards wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:BTW if we have to trade both JJ and Ryan to get Ellis, I think I rather go after Nash and keep one of them.

You can't get Nash and keep one of them. You're not getting Nash with just Redick.

Were not getting Nash period Phx has said 100 times that they arent gonna trade him

That wasn't the point I was trying to make but thanks for playing.

BadMofoPimp · Post #1227 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:12 am

I am thinking Dwight announces that he opts in for another year then the summer of 2013, the Magic sign both Ellis and Josh Smith.

Alex Martins should be telling Dwight "Imagine a team with a lineup. . .

Ellis
JJ
Smith
Ryno
Dwight

while jumping up and down going Hell Yeah!"

j_n · Post #1228 » by **j_n** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:13 am

backasswards wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:BTW if we have to trade both JJ and Ryan to get Ellis, I think I rather go after Nash and keep one of them.

You can't get Nash and keep one of them. You're not getting Nash with just Redick.

Why not though, Is nash really thinking about resigning with the suns?
If they trade him this year, they will lose enough games to get a good pick and get something in return, rather than keep him and remain in no mans land for another year.

You could even argue that resigning him would be a mistake as he would just keep them a mediocre team.

rhp1990 · Post #1229 » by **rhp1990** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:14 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:
backasswards wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:BTW if we have to trade both JJ and Ryan to get Ellis, I think I rather go after Nash and keep one of them.

You can't get Nash and keep one of them. You're not getting Nash with just Redick.

I don't see why not. I don't think Nash is gonna re-sign with PHX in the off-season, they should just pair him with Frye and get something while they can. They're not going anywhere this year or anytime soon. And he's friggin 38

Firstly..

Second of all you should post this on the Suns board. Nash is worth way more then JJ REDICK. He is still playing at a high level and is still a top 10 PG in this league. The Suns are better off letting him finish his career in PHX instead of trading for jj redick. JJ is not going to sell tickets lol and is not going to improve their team or their future lol.

Styx817 · Post #1230 » by **Styx817** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:14 am

Dwight is vastly over rated. He is more of a side-kick than superstar. I would let him walk

Driguez · Post #1231 » by **Driguez** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:15 am

Why are people talking about Nash, both Nash and the Suns have made it very clear they aren't moving him.

bigdogdylan5 · Post #1232 » by **bigdogdylan5** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:15 am

Styx817 wrote:Dwight is vastly over rated. He is more of a side-kick than superstar. I would let him walk

GTFO troll

JarethCutestory · Post #1233 » by **JarethCutestory** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:15 am

Styx817 wrote:Dwight is vastly over rated. He is more of a side-kick than superstar. I would let him walk

you're a fool

Post #1234 » by **ChosenSavior** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:16 am

Driguez wrote:Why are people talking about Nash, both Nash and the Suns have made it very clear they aren't moving him.

This.

bigdogdylan5 · Post #1235 » by **bigdogdylan5** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:16 am

ChosenSavior wrote:
Driguez wrote:Why are people talking about Nash, both Nash and the Suns have made it very clear they aren't moving him.

This.

Exactly

Driguez · Post #1236 » by **Driguez** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:19 am

Styx817 wrote:Dwight is vastly over rated. He is more of a side-kick than superstar. I would let him walk

Yeah it's official, you're a troll.

BadMofoPimp · Post #1237 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:19 am

I am going with my official prediction. No major trades but Dwight announces he will Opt In for next year.

YDNA · Post #1238 » by **YDNA** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:19 am

RickB-Orlando wrote:
backasswards wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:BTW if we have to trade both JJ and Ryan to get Ellis, I think I rather go after Nash and keep one of them.

You can't get Nash and keep one of them. You're not getting Nash with just Redick.

I'm not sure I follow the logic here. Nash is 38 years old and also a free agent at the end of the year. You don't ~need~ to include both Ryan and JJ in a deal for Nash anymore. One of them, probably, and Nelson almost certainly goes as well.

So a straight deal of Nelson plus either JJ or Ryan for Nash works under the cap, and is a pretty good return for a very good, but very old, Point Guard.

so with your logic, you must be saying dwight is worth kris humphries because dwight is older and is a free agent soon.

Styx817 · Post #1239 » by **Styx817** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:20 am

JarethCutestory wrote:
Styx817 wrote:Dwight is vastly over rated. He is more of a side-kick than superstar. I would let him walk

you're a fool

Superstars close games. Howard cannot even hit free throws

BadMofoPimp · Post #1240 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:21 am

Styx817 wrote:
JarethCutestory wrote:
Styx817 wrote:Dwight is vastly over rated. He is more of a side-kick than superstar. I would let him walk

you're a fool

Superstars close games. Howard cannot even hit free throws

Neither could Shaq, but he still won 4 ships over 2 different teams.