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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1241 » by Bensational » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:10 am

Skin wrote:Pisses me off to be a fan of such an incompetent team. We have nothing to cheer for except losing and can't even do that right. They are robbing us of having hope for the future.


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And to add to that, the W/L records associated with those TDs are:

Westbrook - 5-0
Payton - 2-2
LeBron - 2-2
Harden 3-1

Standard of competition fluctuates for each player. Westbrook has done it against a lot of good teams, LeBron has done it to Detroit twice, us once and Boston the other time. Harden did it against Cleveland, Lakers, Pelicans and Denver. Elf against NYK, CHI, SAC and DET. So Elf's beating up weaker teams. Still, he's keeping company with some pretty solid names right now.

Yeah, I'd love a Fultz or Ball or Jackson or whoever, but we've already got some prospects who are starting to find a groove.
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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1242 » by drsd » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:55 am

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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1243 » by cedric76 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:21 am

Great win. Go magic. I m sure we can win at least 6 more games

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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1244 » by arkknight1988 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:47 pm

Expecting the 8th pick at this point behind the twolves and sixers. These wins are inexcusable but at least the youngins are playing well.
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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1245 » by Mc-o » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:49 pm

arkknight1988 wrote:Expecting the 8th pick at this point behind the twolves and sixers. These wins are inexcusable but at least the youngins are playing well.

Yah how dare players go out and try to win a game lmao this tanking thing is funny ! Doesn't matter if we pick 2nd or 8th it's a crap shoot after FULTZ!
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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1246 » by npiper17 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:59 pm

Skin wrote:Pisses me off to be a fan of such an incompetent team. We have nothing to cheer for except losing and can't even do that right. They are robbing us of having hope for the future.


Be realistic - the Pistons are playing that badly that could have rolled out Augustin, Watson, Hezonja, Rudez and Zimmerman all game and still won.
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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1247 » by VFX » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:37 pm

Bensational wrote:
Skin wrote:Pisses me off to be a fan of such an incompetent team. We have nothing to cheer for except losing and can't even do that right. They are robbing us of having hope for the future.


The future might already be here...

Read on Twitter


And to add to that, the W/L records associated with those TDs are:

Westbrook - 5-0
Payton - 2-2
LeBron - 2-2
Harden 3-1

Standard of competition fluctuates for each player. Westbrook has done it against a lot of good teams, LeBron has done it to Detroit twice, us once and Boston the other time. Harden did it against Cleveland, Lakers, Pelicans and Denver. Elf against NYK, CHI, SAC and DET. So Elf's beating up weaker teams. Still, he's keeping company with some pretty solid names right now.

Yeah, I'd love a Fultz or Ball or Jackson or whoever, but we've already got some prospects who are starting to find a groove.


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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1248 » by OrlandoDream » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:50 pm

Bensational wrote:
Skin wrote:Pisses me off to be a fan of such an incompetent team. We have nothing to cheer for except losing and can't even do that right. They are robbing us of having hope for the future.


The future might already be here...

Read on Twitter


And to add to that, the W/L records associated with those TDs are:

Westbrook - 5-0
Payton - 2-2
LeBron - 2-2
Harden 3-1

Standard of competition fluctuates for each player. Westbrook has done it against a lot of good teams, LeBron has done it to Detroit twice, us once and Boston the other time. Harden did it against Cleveland, Lakers, Pelicans and Denver. Elf against NYK, CHI, SAC and DET. So Elf's beating up weaker teams. Still, he's keeping company with some pretty solid names right now.

Yeah, I'd love a Fultz or Ball or Jackson or whoever, but we've already got some prospects who are starting to find a groove.
it's crazy how much better he looks with this small ball lineup. The extra space had given him the room to operate unlike before when Ibaka and Vuc were clogging it up.

This TD EP is no fluke. He looks so poised out there. Even with his inability to shoot he is helping the team win in other areas besides scoring with his Defense, rebounding, and finding guys.

EP is here to stay. Over the past 11 Games he is avg 13pt 8.2ast 8.6reb. Pay the man!
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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1249 » by p0peye » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:23 pm

In todays NBA it is so damn hard to lose a game this late in season. Teams are competing very hard, either to win a ring or a lottery. I have no idea what's our strategy, but it doesn't seem to be working.
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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1250 » by drsd » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:19 pm

p0peye wrote:In todays NBA it is so damn hard to lose a game this late in season. Teams are competing very hard, either to win a ring or a lottery. I have no idea what's our strategy, but it doesn't seem to be working.


Teaching Payton how to win games is a strategy.


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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1251 » by drsd » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:20 pm

What team in the East has played the worst over the last 10?

If you called the Knicks, you would be correct. NYKs has caught the Sixers and Magic in the (lack of) wins column.
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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1252 » by p0peye » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:25 pm

drsd wrote:
p0peye wrote:In todays NBA it is so damn hard to lose a game this late in season. Teams are competing very hard, either to win a ring or a lottery. I have no idea what's our strategy, but it doesn't seem to be working.


Teaching Payton how to win games is a strategy.


I ain't fooled by March Payton again. I'm gonna wait until he does this sort of thing in January and February, when season is decided, not against opponents trying hard to lose. Winning D-League games might have more weight than this.
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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1253 » by VFX » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:50 pm

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drsd wrote:
p0peye wrote:In todays NBA it is so damn hard to lose a game this late in season. Teams are competing very hard, either to win a ring or a lottery. I have no idea what's our strategy, but it doesn't seem to be working.


Teaching Payton how to win games is a strategy.


I ain't fooled by March Payton again. I'm gonna wait until he does this sort of thing in January and February, when season is decided, not against opponents trying hard to lose. Winning D-League games might have more weight than this.


Exactly. It's "great" he is capable of putting up numbers and beating teams wanting to tank... Let's not dismiss the fact we are trying to acquire better players to put around him rather than assume these last cupcake games mean anything.

I guess it's a bright spot in an otherwise terrible season.However, to put his name next to Russ, Harden, and Lebron is somewhat laughable considering the teams they play are actually competing against them and the games mean something.
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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1254 » by SOUL » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:05 pm

p0peye wrote:
drsd wrote:
p0peye wrote:In todays NBA it is so damn hard to lose a game this late in season. Teams are competing very hard, either to win a ring or a lottery. I have no idea what's our strategy, but it doesn't seem to be working.


Teaching Payton how to win games is a strategy.


I ain't fooled by March Payton again. I'm gonna wait until he does this sort of thing in January and February, when season is decided, not against opponents trying hard to lose. Winning D-League games might have more weight than this.


You do know Payton was our best player in January, right?

46/37/71 on 14/4/7 averages.

I don't know, it's always a "but" with Payton. Dude can average a quadruple double but people would say it was against somebody with their pinky wrapped up or we didn't win by 10 points instead of 5 or something else to discredit it.
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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1255 » by p0peye » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:22 pm

SOUL wrote:
p0peye wrote:
drsd wrote:
Teaching Payton how to win games is a strategy.


I ain't fooled by March Payton again. I'm gonna wait until he does this sort of thing in January and February, when season is decided, not against opponents trying hard to lose. Winning D-League games might have more weight than this.


You do know Payton was our best player in January, right?

46/37/71 on 14/4/7 averages.

I don't know, it's always a "but" with Payton. Dude can average a quadruple double but people would say it was against somebody with their pinky wrapped up or we didn't win by 10 points instead of 5 or something else to discredit it.


I'm talking about triple doubles and winning games, not average numbers. We lost 75% of games.

He had 7 triple doubles in his career so far and guess what, they all come in March against tanking teams. Same story each year he's been in the league.
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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1256 » by SOUL » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:32 pm

p0peye wrote:I'm talking about triple doubles and winning games, not average numbers. We lost 75% of games.

He had 7 triple doubles in his career so far and guess what, they all come in March against tanking teams. Same story each year he's been in the league.


I mean, we all watch the games and Payton has easily the most sweater vests in our wins, which means when he's playing good, he is one of the biggest contributors to a win.

So if he's playing good in January and we're not winning... doesn't that mean that some of our other players need to step up as well?

I've said that there are games this year that he didn't get triple doubles where he looked better than when he did, so I don't really put too much stock into those. Triple doubles earlier in a season + all in wins would be the ideal scenario, but I don't get why he is the one questioned in that scenario and not whoever else can pick up the slack. Usually it's the bench that is digging us in huge holes for 15-20 mins of the game.
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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1257 » by SOUL » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:37 pm

Also 3 were against playoff teams... (Blazers 2 years ago, Dallas 2 years ago, Detroit 1 year ago), 2 of them are against teams fighting for the playoffs (Chicago and Detroit this year) .. 2 of them against tanking teams (Kings, Knicks). And we went 3-4.

If we really want to be specific and not just throw a random statement out there.
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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1258 » by VFX » Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:15 am

SOUL wrote:
p0peye wrote:
drsd wrote:
Teaching Payton how to win games is a strategy.


I ain't fooled by March Payton again. I'm gonna wait until he does this sort of thing in January and February, when season is decided, not against opponents trying hard to lose. Winning D-League games might have more weight than this.


You do know Payton was our best player in January, right?

46/37/71 on 14/4/7 averages.

I don't know, it's always a "but" with Payton. Dude can average a quadruple double but people would say it was against somebody with their pinky wrapped up or we didn't win by 10 points instead of 5 or something else to discredit it.


I think Payton is a good player. I also know our team is garbage and we are playing garbage opponents (considering we are capable beating them). He has the capability of having similar games during the season against competitive teams. Imagine people not being 100% sold and excited with EP putting up a career string of games against terrible opponents when most of the fan base is hoping for more talent in the draft and not pointless wins. :lol:

Saying EP is the "best" player on this team in January has little value considering we are genuinely terrible. I don't mind him being our starter in the future IF we can surround him with enough talent to win against the top teams.
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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1259 » by darthcheech2000 » Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:16 am

Throwing games isn't an option but these W's are going to hurt us.
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Re: Tankapolooza: UPDATED 3/15/17; 02:21 EST 

Post#1260 » by SOUL » Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:27 am

MagicMatic wrote:[
Saying EP is the "best" player on this team in January has little value considering we are genuinely terrible. I don't mind him being our starter in the future IF we can surround him with enough talent to win against the top teams.


That's sort of my point though. It doesn't matter how well he's playing (and getting other people involved) if our team is just bad and certain lineups will throw away leads. I'm just saying that it's not like he has only played well in March, it's just when he gets triple doubles. And I think this year in particular it has to do with the ball being in his hands more and the pace being quicker compared to the slow/awful offense we ran when Ibaka was here.
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