Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

[KillMonger]

Thoughts on Elijah Hughes?

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seems like a good shot creator.....could he be a riser?

[Skin]

Hughes is already 22 years old. I don't hate him, I don't love him. Not for 15 though. 25-35 pick range.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

anybody know if teams will be able to hold private workouts?

We don't even know when the actual draft will be this year.

October 16th in Connecticut via teleconference like the NFL did.

[Def Swami]

anybody know if teams will be able to hold private workouts?

We don't even know when the actual draft will be this year.

October 16th in Connecticut via teleconference like the NFL did.

This is tentative and likely to get delayed according to Woj. It's more up in the air.

The NBA's board of governors discussed the delaying of the mid-October NBA draft and start of free agency on a call with commissioner Adam Silver on Friday, sources told ESPN.

The possibility of delaying those two events -- an idea with growing support within the NBA and the National Basketball Players Association -- fits into a potential timeline that would have the NBA's original Dec. 1 start date for 2020-2021 pushed back.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29712381/sources-nba-owners-talk-draft-free-agency-delays

[Creativetran]

I mean look around at the landscape of the league right now.

When the league zigs we zag baby!!

[IllMagic04]

Ok here's my first real crack at a big board. I'll go top 15 only since the Magic are picking 15th.

1. LaMelo Ball
2. Tyrese Haliburton
3. James Wiseman
4. Killian Hayes
5. Anthony Edwards
6. Onyeka Okongwu
7. Aleksej Pokusevski
8. RJ Hampton
9. Kira Lewis Jr.
10. Josh Green
11. Devin Vassell
12. Deni Avdija
13. Theo Maledon
14. Isaac Okoro
15. Xavier Tillman

Five I'm Higher on than Most
Xavier Tillman
Malachi Flynn
Paul Reed
Jared Butler
Jalen Smith

Five I'm Lower on than Most
Obi Toppin
Aaron Nesmith
Tyrese Maxey
Cole Anthony
Patrick Williams

If Cole Anthony gets to 15 we pick him and have a party.

Wouldn't be shocked if he fell into the 20s.

I would. Unlike our brain dead GMs teams value shot making. I remember last year there being discustion about if we should draft Tyler Hero. I saw mocks with him in the 20's too. Then draft day comes and he goes 13. I predict Cole Anthoney will NOT be on the board when we pick.

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[The Effect]

i dont know why im wasting my time because we have 0 chance getting the #1 pick from the wolves, but ive spent all day watching anthony edwards videos......man if that isnt who we need, i dont know who is

I get it, he has his flaws.....he takes some really bad shots, isnt the best 3pt shooter (i think those 2 go hand in hand here), he isnt a good defender, hes a littl selfish etc....
But i dont care, that would be our Donovan mitchell, our jamal murray. Our guy that we can give the ball to and tell him to get us a bucket, at the moment, the only guy we can say that to is vuc, and its not a high likelyhood of happening

If the wolves called, there isnt a player that would be off limits. Give them JI, give them AG, give up multiple draft picks etcc

Not sure what combo they would want, but if we could somehow swing a trade of say AG (or JI or fultz or chuma etc)+15+future 1st and filler for #1 and filler, sign me up right now!!!

[MartinsIzAfraud]

i dont know why im wasting my time because we have 0 chance getting the #1 pick from the wolves, but ive spent all day watching anthony edwards videos......man if that isnt who we need, i dont know who is

I get it, he has his flaws.....he takes some really bad shots, isnt the best 3pt shooter (i think those 2 go hand in hand here), he isnt a good defender, hes a littl selfish etc....
But i dont care, that would be our Donovan mitchell, our jamal murray. Our guy that we can give the ball to and tell him to get us a bucket, at the moment, the only guy we can say that to is vuc, and its not a high likelyhood of happening

If the wolves called, there isnt a player that would be off limits. Give them JI, give them AG, give up multiple draft picks etcc

Not sure what combo they would want, but if we could somehow swing a trade of say AG (or JI or fultz or chuma etc)+15+future 1st and filler for #1 and filler, sign me up right now!!!

Most I'd give would be AG +15 + future lotto 1st is what I'd offer for 1 & James Johnson.

[Ducklett]

i dont know why im wasting my time because we have 0 chance getting the #1 pick from the wolves, but ive spent all day watching anthony edwards videos......man if that isnt who we need, i dont know who is

I get it, he has his flaws.....he takes some really bad shots, isnt the best 3pt shooter (i think those 2 go hand in hand here), he isnt a good defender, hes a littl selfish etc....
But i dont care, that would be our Donovan mitchell, our jamal murray. Our guy that we can give the ball to and tell him to get us a bucket, at the moment, the only guy we can say that to is vuc, and its not a high likelyhood of happening

If the wolves called, there isnt a player that would be off limits. Give them JI, give them AG, give up multiple draft picks etcc

Not sure what combo they would want, but if we could somehow swing a trade of say AG (or JI or fultz or chuma etc)+15+future 1st and filler for #1 and filler, sign me up right now!!!

Your description of Edwards is pretty much the description of 5-6 other guards in this draft, some of which we could pick.

[The Effect]

i dont know why im wasting my time because we have 0 chance getting the #1 pick from the wolves, but ive spent all day watching anthony edwards videos......man if that isnt who we need, i dont know who is

I get it, he has his flaws.....he takes some really bad shots, isnt the best 3pt shooter (i think those 2 go hand in hand here), he isnt a good defender, hes a littl selfish etc....
But i dont care, that would be our Donovan mitchell, our jamal murray. Our guy that we can give the ball to and tell him to get us a bucket, at the moment, the only guy we can say that to is vuc, and its not a high likelyhood of happening

If the wolves called, there isnt a player that would be off limits. Give them JI, give them AG, give up multiple draft picks etcc

Not sure what combo they would want, but if we could somehow swing a trade of say AG (or JI or fultz or chuma etc)+15+future 1st and filler for #1 and filler, sign me up right now!!!

Most I'd give would be AG +15 + future lotto 1st is what I'd offer for 1 & James Johnson.

Yeah that's what I was saying, might of come of sounding different but yeah
Ag+15+future 1st

[OrlChamps2030]

Ok here's my first real crack at a big board. I'll go top 15 only since the Magic are picking 15th.

1. LaMelo Ball
2. Tyrese Haliburton
3. James Wiseman
4. Killian Hayes
5. Anthony Edwards
6. Onyeka Okongwu
7. Aleksej Pokusevski
8. RJ Hampton
9. Kira Lewis Jr.
10. Josh Green
11. Devin Vassell
12. Deni Avdija
13. Theo Maledon
14. Isaac Okoro
15. Xavier Tillman

Five I'm Higher on than Most
Xavier Tillman
Malachi Flynn
Paul Reed
Jared Butler
Jalen Smith

Five I'm Lower on than Most
Obi Toppin
Aaron Nesmith
Tyrese Maxey
Cole Anthony
Patrick Williams

It’s hard to tell if you’re really low on Obi or higher on this draft than most haha

I know he has some serious red flags on the defensive side of the ball, but you don’t see him being a good possibly very good offensive player? I could see him turning out to be who Aaron Gordon was supposed to be (on the offensive end)or John Collins. I’ve even seen some compare him to Amare on that end.. actually on both ends lol

[NotACat]

Ok here's my first real crack at a big board. I'll go top 15 only since the Magic are picking 15th.

1. LaMelo Ball
2. Tyrese Haliburton
3. James Wiseman
4. Killian Hayes
5. Anthony Edwards
6. Onyeka Okongwu
7. Aleksej Pokusevski
8. RJ Hampton
9. Kira Lewis Jr.
10. Josh Green
11. Devin Vassell
12. Deni Avdija
13. Theo Maledon
14. Isaac Okoro
15. Xavier Tillman

Five I'm Higher on than Most
Xavier Tillman
Malachi Flynn
Paul Reed
Jared Butler
Jalen Smith

Five I'm Lower on than Most
Obi Toppin
Aaron Nesmith
Tyrese Maxey
Cole Anthony
Patrick Williams

It’s hard to tell if you’re really low on Obi or higher on this draft than most haha

I know he has some serious red flags on the defensive side of the ball, but you don’t see him being a good possibly very good offensive player? I could see him turning out to be who Aaron Gordon was supposed to be (on the offensive end)or John Collins. I’ve even seen some compare him to Amare on that end.. actually on both ends lol

Obi isn't nearly as fluid as John Collins or Amare. He has incredible jumping ability, but his agility and tight space movement is terrible

[The Effect]

i dont know why im wasting my time because we have 0 chance getting the #1 pick from the wolves, but ive spent all day watching anthony edwards videos......man if that isnt who we need, i dont know who is

I get it, he has his flaws.....he takes some really bad shots, isnt the best 3pt shooter (i think those 2 go hand in hand here), he isnt a good defender, hes a littl selfish etc....
But i dont care, that would be our Donovan mitchell, our jamal murray. Our guy that we can give the ball to and tell him to get us a bucket, at the moment, the only guy we can say that to is vuc, and its not a high likelyhood of happening

If the wolves called, there isnt a player that would be off limits. Give them JI, give them AG, give up multiple draft picks etcc

Not sure what combo they would want, but if we could somehow swing a trade of say AG (or JI or fultz or chuma etc)+15+future 1st and filler for #1 and filler, sign me up right now!!!

Your description of Edwards is pretty much the description of 5-6 other guards in this draft, some of which we could pick.

The description of Winston justice and kawhi is the same ..... Doesn't mean they are the same Caliber of player

Edwards will be a Donovan Mitchell-esqe star

[Ducklett]

i dont know why im wasting my time because we have 0 chance getting the #1 pick from the wolves, but ive spent all day watching anthony edwards videos......man if that isnt who we need, i dont know who is

I get it, he has his flaws.....he takes some really bad shots, isnt the best 3pt shooter (i think those 2 go hand in hand here), he isnt a good defender, hes a littl selfish etc....
But i dont care, that would be our Donovan mitchell, our jamal murray. Our guy that we can give the ball to and tell him to get us a bucket, at the moment, the only guy we can say that to is vuc, and its not a high likelyhood of happening

If the wolves called, there isnt a player that would be off limits. Give them JI, give them AG, give up multiple draft picks etcc

Not sure what combo they would want, but if we could somehow swing a trade of say AG (or JI or fultz or chuma etc)+15+future 1st and filler for #1 and filler, sign me up right now!!!

Your description of Edwards is pretty much the description of 5-6 other guards in this draft, some of which we could pick.

The description of Winston justice and kawhi is the same ..... Doesn't mean they are the same Caliber of player

Edwards will be a Donovan Mitchell-esqe star

He is statistically worse than many of the other wings in this draft, the only thing he really has on them is he is a year younger. I think as far as purely offense goes, Nesmith could be the next coming of a star. His stats are INSANE.

[yoyojw17]

Your description of Edwards is pretty much the description of 5-6 other guards in this draft, some of which we could pick.

The description of Winston justice and kawhi is the same ..... Doesn't mean they are the same Caliber of player

Edwards will be a Donovan Mitchell-esqe star

He is statistically worse than many of the other wings in this draft, the only thing he really has on them is he is a year younger. I think as far as purely offense goes, Nesmith could be the next coming of a star. His stats are INSANE.

Nesmith i my dream at our position that's for sure. But... i would like Edward's over him... just because he is a much more well rounded player.... who played against defenses that were designed to always stop him cuz the team sucked so much. But at 15.... Nesmith, Kira Lewis and josh Green to a degree lately are the ones i'm interest in the most.

Nesmith is already elite at something we really need, has the size and defensive potential to be a great 3 and D player... and still actually can do a lot more... but why do more if you hit the 3 at 52 freaking percent. hahah. Assuming the core remains the same.... I'm loving that pickup.

actually coming out of the draft with Nesmith and Lewis would be a successful draft . WOuld just need to find another mid to late 1st rounder... assuming lewis is available

[Knightro]

Here's an article from a Cavs beat writer...

"Given the roster makeup, exploring deals centered on the fifth pick is highly likely. That’s the path for a quicker turnaround. The return package, especially for an asset in a weak class, is a much different, more depressing conversation. Any momentary disappointment from lottery night is tied to that reality -- receiving a lesser-valued trade chip after a 46-loss season. Still, it won’t stop the Cavs from at least shopping for a help-now piece."

And then Aaron Gordon was specifically one of the names mentioned.

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2020/08/cleveland-cavaliers-positioned-perfectly-to-fill-biggest-need-in-nba-draft-if-they-keep-the-fifth-pick.html

The only problem with potentially trading with the Cavs is their contract situation.

They're over the cap like the Magic are, so any deal would have come relatively close to matching salary.

Gordon is set to make 18.1M. The Cavs have Dante Exum's expiring contract at 9.6M, but that isn't enough money. The Magic would almost have to get back one of Nance or Osman as well to make the $ work.

Gordon + 15 for Exum + Osman + 5 makes sense financially. Then the Magic could select Hayes at 5 if he's the guy they really like.

If the Cavs opted to keep the 5th pick and use it on a guard like Haliburton, maybe Bamba for Garland could be a thing?

If the Magic and Cavs really wanted to get nuts, they could do Gordon + Fournier + Birch for Drummond's expiring and 5.

[jonbob17]

I am not sure we have the assets to get 1 from Minnesota, but I am not sure we want it either.

What about this idea:
Magic trade AG and 15 get #6 pick draft Killian Hayes And get JJohnson
Atlanta trade DeAndre Hunter #6 get #1
Minnesota trade #1 get AG, Hunter, and #15

Seems like a little more realistic return for Minnesota.

[yoyojw17]

Here's an article from a Cavs beat writer...

"Given the roster makeup, exploring deals centered on the fifth pick is highly likely. That’s the path for a quicker turnaround. The return package, especially for an asset in a weak class, is a much different, more depressing conversation. Any momentary disappointment from lottery night is tied to that reality -- receiving a lesser-valued trade chip after a 46-loss season. Still, it won’t stop the Cavs from at least shopping for a help-now piece."

And then Aaron Gordon was specifically one of the names mentioned.

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2020/08/cleveland-cavaliers-positioned-perfectly-to-fill-biggest-need-in-nba-draft-if-they-keep-the-fifth-pick.html

The only problem with potentially trading with the Cavs is their contract situation.

They're over the cap like the Magic are, so any deal would have come relatively close to matching salary.

Gordon is set to make 18.1M. The Cavs have Dante Exum's expiring contract at 9.6M, but that isn't enough money. The Magic would almost have to get back one of Nance or Osman as well to make the $ work.

Gordon + 15 for Exum + Osman + 5 makes sense financially. Then the Magic could select Hayes at 5 if he's the guy they really like.

If the Cavs opted to keep the 5th pick and use it on a guard like Haliburton, maybe Bamba for Garland could be a thing?

If the Magic and Cavs really wanted to get nuts, they could do Gordon + Fournier + Birch for Drummond's expiring and 5.

If the did "get nuts".... sign me up! Just cuz... we could flip drummond closer to the deadline for additional assets.

And if we got the 5th.....and i would target Deni Avdija if he was available. I think he would be an excellent small forward... especially one to couple with fultz, isaac, okeke and bamba for the future.... and with vuc in the present. Then we would have to just fill the SG position.

and if we have the 15th pick... we could still fill that position... with TRoss for the present. A player i also do really like that i would love for us to plunder.... terence davis from toronto. But... that's all if... they go loco. haha

[jonbob17]

Thoughts on Elijah Hughes?

Watch on YouTube

seems like a good shot creator.....could he be a riser?

I think he is really interesting, someone that would be great in the 2nd. That highlight video, he sure did have some range.
I would love it if they could get an extra pick, get a couple guards (point/combo), and an upside wing.

15. Anthony/Maxey/Hampton/Mannion
late first Flynn/Riller/Hughes
45. Hughes/Joe

Feels like a draft where quantity is better than quality, assuming a team has room to play these guys.

[VFX]

Here's an article from a Cavs beat writer...

"Given the roster makeup, exploring deals centered on the fifth pick is highly likely. That’s the path for a quicker turnaround. The return package, especially for an asset in a weak class, is a much different, more depressing conversation. Any momentary disappointment from lottery night is tied to that reality -- receiving a lesser-valued trade chip after a 46-loss season. Still, it won’t stop the Cavs from at least shopping for a help-now piece."

And then Aaron Gordon was specifically one of the names mentioned.

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2020/08/cleveland-cavaliers-positioned-perfectly-to-fill-biggest-need-in-nba-draft-if-they-keep-the-fifth-pick.html

The only problem with potentially trading with the Cavs is their contract situation.

They're over the cap like the Magic are, so any deal would have come relatively close to matching salary.

Gordon is set to make 18.1M. The Cavs have Dante Exum's expiring contract at 9.6M, but that isn't enough money. The Magic would almost have to get back one of Nance or Osman as well to make the $ work.

Gordon + 15 for Exum + Osman + 5 makes sense financially. Then the Magic could select Hayes at 5 if he's the guy they really like.

If the Cavs opted to keep the 5th pick and use it on a guard like Haliburton, maybe Bamba for Garland could be a thing?

If the Magic and Cavs really wanted to get nuts, they could do Gordon + Fournier + Birch for Drummond's expiring and 5.

That would be a great move for us.

At 5 we could take Hayes, Haliburton, or Vassell. Have always liked Osman as a hard working player.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y5949pza