Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread

[tiderulz]

I mean, another thing you have to wonder is why open up the war chest when…

1) No one available will turn us into contender
2) we spent our 6th pick on a pg. yes he still has a lot to prove, but is tyus that good to bury our 6th pick? Dejounte isn’t even realistic because the asking price is high for murray. Reportedly, an All star or Austin reaves. Who is the equivalent to that in our roster? There’s only one allstar on our team right now…

to make a run this year, yes.

A run for what?

a run into the playoffs. We waste our 2nd round picks anyways. Now no one knows, but if all it took was a 2nd round pick to try out Jones at PG, get at least a competent offense and see where the team goes in the playoffs, i dont care if Black sees less time on that run. Let him beat out someone for it. But instead, we will waste another year of our young players running out Fultz and Anthony at PG and a team lacking outside shooting will maybe make it into the playoffs and then get run off the court.

[fendilim]

to make a run this year, yes.

A run for what?

a run into the playoffs. We waste our 2nd round picks anyways. Now no one knows, but if all it took was a 2nd round pick to try out Jones at PG, get at least a competent offense and see where the team goes in the playoffs, i dont care if Black sees less time on that run. Let him beat out someone for it. But instead, we will waste another year of our young players running out Fultz and Anthony at PG and a team lacking outside shooting will maybe make it into the playoffs and then get run off the court.

Into the playoffs? We’re basically in the playoffs. It’s almost given with our remaining schedule.

Tyus doesn’t move the table and its likely a he wasn’t available for a 2nd. Reports have said they have seek a 1st for him.

[Furinkazan]

apologysts on a mission

Its not that, doing a trade just for the sake of making a trade is plain stupidity.

your comment is a great example of plain stupidity

show me any trade in the nba that was made for the sake of making a trade
some trades are because of flexibility some trade to get worse and tank some trade to avoid tax some trade to get better
that doesnt mean that trades are made for the sake of making a trade...

we are in the game of getting better and theres no doubt some players out there that could be had for peanuts could make us better...
now the matter if such trade move the needle enough comes in
but even then that doesnt mean such trade was made for the sake of making a trade

so stop with the bs

[Furinkazan]

and nobody is screaming zaymon so get off your "high" horse

[fendilim]

apologysts on a mission

Its not that, doing a trade just for the sake of making a trade is plain stupidity.

your comment is a great example of plain stupidity

show me any trade in the nba that was made for the sake of making a trade
some trades are because of flexibility some trade to get worse and tank some trade to avoid tax some trade to get better
that doesnt mean that trades are made for the sake of making a trade...

we are in the game of getting better and theres no doubt some players out there that could be had for peanuts could make us better...
now the matter if such trade move the needle enough comes in
but even then that doesnt mean such trade was made for the sake of making a trade

so stop with the bs

Its simply a short sighted move to acquire tyus when we can sign him next offseason without moving any of our assets.

Murray is unrealistic because hawks, reportedly, want 2 1sts or an allstar.

Who can be had for peanuts?

[Furinkazan]

look even if we traded Fultz/Harris for other lets say even injured expirings and 2nds which are actually nothing and trade looks like a wash... or Okeke for 2nd

such trade also isnt a tade for the sake of making a trade its a trade that potentially frees up more pt for Black and Jett maybe

[eyriq]

look even if we traded Fultz/Harris for other lets say even injured expirings and 2nds which are actually nothing and trade looks like a wash... or Okeke for 2nd

such trade also isnt a tade for the sake of making a trade its a trade that potentially frees up more pt for Black and Jett maybe

This is what I would have liked, come to think of it. Good call

[zaymon]

and nobody is screaming zaymon so get off your "high" horse

Yes you are right, I am acting like there were threads like "Make a trade or we call for your job!" or something. You also cant scream through written text so another silly mistake on my part. You are also too generous, its not a horse, its a donkey.

[Furinkazan]

and nobody is screaming zaymon so get off your "high" horse

Yes you are right, I am acting like there were threads like "Make a trade or we call for your job!" or something. You also cant scream through written text so another silly mistake on my part. You are also too generous, its not a horse, its a donkey.

thats the pic i get after typing high horse in my searchbar

[Skybox]

Its simply a short sighted move to acquire tyus when we can sign him next offseason without moving any of our assets.

Murray is unrealistic because hawks, reportedly, want 2 1sts or an allstar.

Who can be had for peanuts?

WTF? why for "peanuts"? why is it so unthinkable to make a trade of value for great-fitting basketball value?

Why do you assume that every desirable UFA is simply ours to sign if we want him?
Don't you see value in getting a player in-house for Bird rights and a test-fit? There's no question that retaining FA's happen far more often than simple bidding wars, in recent years. Players generally don't leave unless the team doesn't want them or to pay them what some fools will. Obviously, there is a reduction in trade value for a UFA, but it's not like anyone is piling on IND for Siakim or NY for OG.

If ATL wants 2 frps for Murray he would be LOOOOONG gone by now. I don't know what the ask was, but two catastrophe -protected frps, likely from a playoff-level team, IS peanuts.

[fendilim]

look even if we traded Fultz/Harris for other lets say even injured expirings and 2nds which are actually nothing and trade looks like a wash... or Okeke for 2nd

such trade also isnt a tade for the sake of making a trade its a trade that potentially frees up more pt for Black and Jett maybe

We couldn’t even get a 2nd for tross… you think we can get for Fultz/Harris/Okeke???

[Furinkazan]

Its not that, doing a trade just for the sake of making a trade is plain stupidity.

your comment is a great example of plain stupidity

show me any trade in the nba that was made for the sake of making a trade
some trades are because of flexibility some trade to get worse and tank some trade to avoid tax some trade to get better
that doesnt mean that trades are made for the sake of making a trade...

we are in the game of getting better and theres no doubt some players out there that could be had for peanuts could make us better...
now the matter if such trade move the needle enough comes in
but even then that doesnt mean such trade was made for the sake of making a trade

so stop with the bs

Its simply a short sighted move to acquire tyus when we can sign him next offseason without moving any of our assets.

Murray is unrealistic because hawks, reportedly, want 2 1sts or an allstar.

Who can be had for peanuts?

as you dont want to admit there were potential cheap trades to be made and you already upped the bar to Murray level

so I quit


I dont want to argue Im 10 steps ahead on this argument so I know how it ends

[Furinkazan]

look even if we traded Fultz/Harris for other lets say even injured expirings and 2nds which are actually nothing and trade looks like a wash... or Okeke for 2nd

such trade also isnt a tade for the sake of making a trade its a trade that potentially frees up more pt for Black and Jett maybe

We couldn’t even get a 2nd for tross… you think we can get for Fultz/Harris/Okeke???

as I said you won argument
you are right

[zaymon]

and nobody is screaming zaymon so get off your "high" horse

Yes you are right, I am acting like there were threads like "Make a trade or we call for your job!" or something. You also cant scream through written text so another silly mistake on my part. You are also too generous, its not a horse, its a donkey.

thats the pic i get after typing high horse in my searchbar

Well i am not suprised you made a mistake becouse my donkey is similar to both.

[Skybox]

and nobody is screaming zaymon so get off your "high" horse

Yes you are right, I am acting like there were threads like "Make a trade or we call for your job!" or something. You also cant scream through written text so another silly mistake on my part. You are also too generous, its not a horse, its a donkey.

thats the pic i get after typing high horse in my searchbar

Snoop Dogg with a blunt on a flying giraffe? Saturday morning cartoons have changed

[VFX]

to make a run this year, yes.

A run for what?

a run into the playoffs. We waste our 2nd round picks anyways. Now no one knows, but if all it took was a 2nd round pick to try out Jones at PG, get at least a competent offense and see where the team goes in the playoffs, i dont care if Black sees less time on that run. Let him beat out someone for it. But instead, we will waste another year of our young players running out Fultz and Anthony at PG and a team lacking outside shooting will maybe make it into the playoffs and then get run off the court.

I dont understand why this is hard for people to get.

If Paolo and Franz are in prime development years, why are fans OK with them struggling to win games on offense against average defenses when they absolutely don’t have to?

People make it sound like roster decisions are complex chemistry equations. You have no starting point guard. You haven’t had one since Jameer. Find one until Black develops. Not complicated.

[fendilim]

look even if we traded Fultz/Harris for other lets say even injured expirings and 2nds which are actually nothing and trade looks like a wash... or Okeke for 2nd

such trade also isnt a tade for the sake of making a trade its a trade that potentially frees up more pt for Black and Jett maybe

We couldn’t even get a 2nd for tross… you think we can get for Fultz/Harris/Okeke???

as I said you won argument
you are right

Its just a simple question because I don’t know the answer. I’m simply asking your insight about this. Lol

[tiderulz]

A run for what?

a run into the playoffs. We waste our 2nd round picks anyways. Now no one knows, but if all it took was a 2nd round pick to try out Jones at PG, get at least a competent offense and see where the team goes in the playoffs, i dont care if Black sees less time on that run. Let him beat out someone for it. But instead, we will waste another year of our young players running out Fultz and Anthony at PG and a team lacking outside shooting will maybe make it into the playoffs and then get run off the court.

Into the playoffs? We’re basically in the playoffs. It’s almost given with our remaining schedule.

Tyus doesn’t move the table and its likely a he wasn’t available for a 2nd. Reports have said they have seek a 1st for him.

reading comprehension. i didnt say "into the playoffs" i said see where we go "in the playoffs". with our PG play right now, we will be out in the first round

[tiderulz]

Its not that, doing a trade just for the sake of making a trade is plain stupidity.

your comment is a great example of plain stupidity

show me any trade in the nba that was made for the sake of making a trade
some trades are because of flexibility some trade to get worse and tank some trade to avoid tax some trade to get better
that doesnt mean that trades are made for the sake of making a trade...

we are in the game of getting better and theres no doubt some players out there that could be had for peanuts could make us better...
now the matter if such trade move the needle enough comes in
but even then that doesnt mean such trade was made for the sake of making a trade

so stop with the bs

Its simply a short sighted move to acquire tyus when we can sign him next offseason without moving any of our assets.

Murray is unrealistic because hawks, reportedly, want 2 1sts or an allstar.

Who can be had for peanuts?

2 firsts considering they got him for 3. the Denver pick is likely a bad one, this years looks like a non-lottery. IF, IF they thought he was the missing piece that is a small price to pay.

[fendilim]

your comment is a great example of plain stupidity

show me any trade in the nba that was made for the sake of making a trade
some trades are because of flexibility some trade to get worse and tank some trade to avoid tax some trade to get better
that doesnt mean that trades are made for the sake of making a trade...

we are in the game of getting better and theres no doubt some players out there that could be had for peanuts could make us better...
now the matter if such trade move the needle enough comes in
but even then that doesnt mean such trade was made for the sake of making a trade

so stop with the bs

Its simply a short sighted move to acquire tyus when we can sign him next offseason without moving any of our assets.

Murray is unrealistic because hawks, reportedly, want 2 1sts or an allstar.

Who can be had for peanuts?

2 firsts considering they got him for 3. the Denver pick is likely a bad one, this years looks like a non-lottery. IF, IF they thought he was the missing piece that is a small price to pay.

Do you think the hawks would covet those quality of picks?

It is widely reported that no team wants 1st round picks this year and the denver pick is as good as a 2nd rounder. Lol