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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs Round 1 Game 5: (5) Orlando Magic at (4) Cleveland Cavaliers - Series Tied 2-2 

Post#1241 » by ogmagicfan » Wed May 1, 2024 3:09 am

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pennyfan94 wrote:The ball movement was non existent man. And everyone was just stagnant while Paolo ISO'd


Again: the Magic must get a SG that runs cuts and can hit catch and shoot reliably. This team will never be great until that one player is found. I am getting sick of hearing 80% of Magic RealGMers scream for a PG. It has four PGs on the roster. This team NEEDS a SG.


we could have 100 PGs on our team, how many of our PGs are actually good and can provide all the attributes you need from PGs?

none.

we dont even have a PG who can consistently even give a post entry pass without committing a turnover :banghead:
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Post#1242 » by VFX » Wed May 1, 2024 3:10 am

Knightro wrote:Paolo was 13-21 from the floor before he missed in isolation with 1:29 and 1:02 to go.

I can't in good faith kill Paolo or the Magic for those possessions. That's what got them there and that's what was going to win it or lose it for them.


Yeah I didn’t hate it really. It’s mostly just the timing of some of the bad shots he takes.

They are always heat check shots everyone on the floor knows he’s going to take. It’s like… just make the best decision on the court. You don’t HAVE to heat check after every 2nd shot you see go in.
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Post#1243 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Wed May 1, 2024 3:10 am

Black and Blue wrote:I just took a step back and realized...Paolo 39 point game in the playoffs, Franz 35 game in the playoffs, Suggs suddenly one of the best defenders in the league and way way better at shooting, Isaac is healthy again, coach Mosely runner up for coach of the year, 5th seed, going the distance in round 1, bench scoring more points than most in the nba... like this has to be absolute best case scenario right? Short of the rookies doing anything but I get the impression the idea was always to redshirt both of them.

Really really glass half full right now. This is hopefully the start of something big.

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Post#1244 » by eyriq » Wed May 1, 2024 3:11 am

I can't believe Cole completely sucks in the playoffs
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Post#1245 » by drsd » Wed May 1, 2024 3:11 am

SOUL wrote:but i'm not ready for it to end yet!


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Post#1246 » by ogmagicfan » Wed May 1, 2024 3:11 am

I reallyyyy hope neither Fultz or Cole will be starting for Game 6, or else it will be a long night
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Post#1247 » by drsd » Wed May 1, 2024 3:12 am

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pennyfan94 wrote:The ball movement was non existent man. And everyone was just stagnant while Paolo ISO'd


Again: the Magic must get a SG that runs cuts and can hit catch and shoot reliably. This team will never be great until that one player is found. I am getting sick of hearing 80% of Magic RealGMers scream for a PG. It has four PGs on the roster. This team NEEDS a SG.


we could have 100 PGs on our team, how many of our PGs are actually good and can provide all the attributes you need from PGs?

none.

we dont even have a PG who can consistently even give a post entry pass without committing a turnover :banghead:


How is that a defense that Orlando has ZERO capable SGs on this roster?
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Post#1248 » by SOUL » Wed May 1, 2024 3:12 am

I'm calling it, if we win game 6, the only way we win on the road is from a huge Suggs shooting game and one of Paolo/Franz going off.

1-15 on the road for threes from Suggs is not great, but he feels it at home!
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Post#1249 » by IllMagic04 » Wed May 1, 2024 3:12 am

Yea I have concerns about how we bounce back after that gut punch. We had them


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Post#1250 » by Audi » Wed May 1, 2024 3:13 am

SOUL wrote:Next game might be our last of the season, I hope not because they deserve a shot at game 7.. but i'm not ready for it to end yet! Even though part of me hates the stress lol


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Post#1251 » by 3ddman23 » Wed May 1, 2024 3:13 am

Damm didn't realize we missed 10 free throws.... killer stuff
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Post#1252 » by ogmagicfan » Wed May 1, 2024 3:13 am

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drsd wrote:
Again: the Magic must get a SG that runs cuts and can hit catch and shoot reliably. This team will never be great until that one player is found. I am getting sick of hearing 80% of Magic RealGMers scream for a PG. It has four PGs on the roster. This team NEEDS a SG.


we could have 100 PGs on our team, how many of our PGs are actually good and can provide all the attributes you need from PGs?

none.

we dont even have a PG who can consistently even give a post entry pass without committing a turnover :banghead:


How is that a defense that Orlando has ZERO capable SGs on this roster?


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Post#1253 » by VFX » Wed May 1, 2024 3:13 am

ogmagicfan wrote:I reallyyyy hope neither Fultz or Cole will be starting for Game 6, or else it will be a long night


I can guarantee it’s Fultz if Gary is out.

They will never learn up until he’s off the team.
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Post#1254 » by drsd » Wed May 1, 2024 3:13 am

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MartinsIzAfraud wrote:That’s the scary part…. Mosley cannot play Cole those minutes or were ****. Considering Gary hasn’t done much offensively maybe just maybe we play AB a bit ?


Screw the bench depth: just start the death lineup and see where it lands.

PG: Suggs/Anthony
SG: F-Wagner/Fultz
SF: Banchero/Ingles
PF: Isaac
C: Carter/M-Wagner

At least that 9-man rotation has scoring.


We can't play Cole unfortunately, shame we can't play Black instead of him (we will next season though, Cole is a goner)


Then go with an 8-man rotation. It's game-last for Orlando. All-in.
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Post#1255 » by eyriq » Wed May 1, 2024 3:13 am

MagicMatic wrote:
ogmagicfan wrote:I reallyyyy hope neither Fultz or Cole will be starting for Game 6, or else it will be a long night


I can guarantee it’s Fultz if Gary is out.

They will never learn up until he’s off the team.
They just can't quit Fultz
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Post#1256 » by ogmagicfan » Wed May 1, 2024 3:15 am

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MagicMatic wrote:
ogmagicfan wrote:I reallyyyy hope neither Fultz or Cole will be starting for Game 6, or else it will be a long night


I can guarantee it’s Fultz if Gary is out.

They will never learn up until he’s off the team.
They just can't quit Fultz


Hence why I look forward to when Fultz is off the roster, or we get enough depth at the guard position that he's a 3rd stringer for us
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Post#1257 » by ChosenSavior » Wed May 1, 2024 3:15 am

3ddman23 wrote:Damm didn't realize we missed 10 free throws.... killer stuff


Yeah just looked over that, brutal stuff
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Post#1258 » by ogmagicfan » Wed May 1, 2024 3:16 am

Could we potentially see Caleb Houstan start at SG for Game 6, or get burn over Cole Anthony?
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Post#1259 » by dsg2021 » Wed May 1, 2024 3:17 am

A lot of my first half and sweater vest notes are still very relevant. But with this 2nd half, we battled hard and did well enough. We’ll get them next time. Yet, there also was a couple big things to point out.

So to me, Suggs costed us the game a little bit, and then as well, we are not using Franz and Paolo early enough in the shot clock nor purposefully enough as point forwards.

Suggs' defense was masterful on Donovan. But the creeping up FT’s eventually gave Donovan a still All Star like 28 points on 23 attempts. He also criss-crossed his assignments and gave Garland too much space on two of this 3’s/jumpers if I remember right. It was still herculean defensive effort, so where Suggs really hurt us more legitimately was in the team offense. He took 2-3 ill advised 3’s in 1st Q alone, but by the end of the game it was 5-14 to Franz’s 11 attempts at scoring. Garland to me, is for guarding his shooting and to keep mind of his passing target when he penetrates.

The other major issue is not recognizing that we have point forwards, not point guards. We are not supposed to have Suggs probing the defense for 10 seconds before handing it off to Paolo or Franz. We get confused on offense in small ways too. Calling for screens but not using them. Calling to space out the floor, but not driving. We need to be more purposeful and give Paolo and Franz the ball with a lot of time on the shot clock.
I still want to the first open shot to be taken, but if it doesn’t come early in the shot clock, then I want it to come with some type of Franz/Paolo set plays involving others like PnRs, Horns, flares and whatnot.

Of course, the 26 3P% (before Paolo’s last 3) is a big culprit. I’ve already said I want trial/series adjustment minutes for Caleb over Gary before I even experiment with Black or Goga minutes. But what really stood out to me, what was the true story of the whole game, was ORL’s 17 Assists to 14 TO’s to CLE’s 23 Assists to 10 TO’s. Paolo (10-13 in 2nd half I believe?) and Franz are your point forwards. Tape session and soft-practice how everyone plays off of them, at the top of the key, with the ball, before Friday. And I know Franz faced doubles, but don’t let him have only 11 attempts if he’s leading us with a great 6:2 A:TO ratio. We robbed 'Kelle of a Cummerbund or Mittens too!
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Post#1260 » by ChosenSavior » Wed May 1, 2024 3:17 am

It is what it is, already over this game. Hopefully the city shows out for the team and we pounce on them from start to finish.

If Strus is going to guard Franz, then Franz has to be in attack mode constantly.

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