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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1261 » by arkknight1988 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:18 am

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AshBlackstone wrote:This deal is indefensible. You can't come out of a Dwight Howard deal without obtaining someone else's lottery pick or an up and coming future star.

We all know that Houston offered us something.

The worst part is, we don't even get the cap flexibility we were looking for. I keep seeing people in this thread defend the deal...by claiming we get cap flexibility.

We gain very little cap flexibility out of this in comparison to holding on to Dwight and letting him walk. We basically swapped J-Rich's deal for Affalo's, and got out from under Duhon's deal.

We gained the cap flexibility of not having to pay Chris Duhon. That's it. Whoopie.

And so what if we only have to pay Harrington 50 percent of the salary if we waive him after this year? That's a loss, because we wouldn't have had to pay Dwight Howard ANYTHING after this season.

This deal doesn't make any sense.

cap flexibility doesn't mean sh*t for the next couple years. We are tanking, full out tanking. Only thing that matters is that we got assets instead of letting him walk for nothing. I'm not saying its a great deal but we got assets.




What assets did we get? Aaron Affalo stopped playing defense in Denver last year, and was one of the least inefficient players at his position. He had a PER of 14. Everyone trying to sell us on his defense didn't watch him play last season.

We didn't get desireable assets, other than late first round picks...which are only minor assets.

We got nothing. After all this time, we caved...and just decided to move on, and take whatever garbage deal was on the table.

Harkless is a great asset. Vuc is a good asset. 3 1sts GS 2nd and the trade is yet to be finalized
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1262 » by Leissak » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:19 am

We gotta plan something cool for when Dwight visits Orlando on March 12!
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1263 » by Driguez » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:19 am

silent1900 wrote:...and I STILL would rather see the Lakers beat the Heat...



Too early to say for me
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1264 » by thelead » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:19 am

^For the second best player in the nba?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1265 » by Driguez » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:20 am

Leissak wrote:We gotta plan something cool for when Dwight visits Orlando on March 12!


We should do a Dwight jersey appreciation BBQ at Turkey Lake Park! Yay!
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1266 » by OrlandoMajinBuu » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:24 am

Christine Vest is very happy. Secretly trolling with us, but she seem victorious.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1267 » by Magic#1 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:24 am

Holy Crap. I come back after a few hours and find out that this is actually happening and we are NOT getting Gasol? I don't think it is AS bad as some of you, but this is still really bad. I'm actually thrilled with the players we're getting. I love Afflalo and Harkless is a very nice prospect. I can't remember Vucecic playing, but he is a very young big who actually had decent numbers last year. But still walking away--after all this time--with what appears to be no future lottery picks and Aaron Afflalo as the centerpiece? That is truly awful. If all this happens, I really hope we can flip Harrington for something. If this is the deal and it goes down like this, we are going to be so epic bad next year it's ridiculous. I'd be stunned if we won 20 games. This is starting to look really, really bad. If Hennigan doesn't do this then he has seriously trolled hard. However, it's not looking likely that's the case. Just wow.
I'd just like everyone to know this: If this trade happens as we think it will, we are now the worst team in our division with the Washington Wizards and Charlotte Bobcats.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1268 » by AshBlackstone » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:25 am

Leissak wrote:We gotta plan something cool for when Dwight visits Orlando on March 12!




Honestly, I hope Dwight gets hit by a bus tonight and dies at the hospital.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1269 » by SOUL » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:26 am

At least Wizards have Beal and Wall.. and Nene.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1270 » by ReadyOrlando » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:27 am

Magic fan for life, but I hope the Clippers take over as LA's #1 team for the next 10 years.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1271 » by TDJacksonville » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:27 am

Driguez wrote:
Leissak wrote:We gotta plan something cool for when Dwight visits Orlando on March 12!


We should do a Dwight jersey appreciation BBQ at Turkey Lake Park! Yay!

an emphatic U sold out Chant and Hey Daddy dont u remember me :lol:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1272 » by arkknight1988 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:27 am

thelead wrote:^For the second best player in the nba?

nope it comes up short. but for the biggest bi**h in the league?
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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition) 

Post#1273 » by MagicTownBaller » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:28 am

Hey arsenal, you still online?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1274 » by PeePee la Fritz » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:29 am

SOUL wrote:At least Wizards have Beal and Wall.. and Nene.



The Wizards are gonna make the playoffs this year, I think they got a great shot at the 8th seed. The Bobcats....well the Bobcats are a train wreck, but now so is Orlando. Even the Hawks got worse. Miami is going to sweep every team in this division this year :lol:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1275 » by TDJacksonville » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:29 am

AshBlackstone wrote:
Leissak wrote:We gotta plan something cool for when Dwight visits Orlando on March 12!




Honestly, I hope Dwight gets hit by a bus tonight and dies at the hospital.
lol i was thinking more like a Bunch of drive bye shootings killing Howard and his goons :wink:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1276 » by DaveMustaine » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:29 am

No, if this trade goes down, then we are far and away the worst team in basketball, and that won't change for at least 3 seasons. I don't get why we didn't want Bynum...(Those rumors about him not willing to resign here were debunked by his agent).
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1277 » by SOUL » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:30 am

PeePee la Fritz wrote:
SOUL wrote:At least Wizards have Beal and Wall.. and Nene.



The Wizards are gonna make the playoffs this year, I think they got a great shot at the 8th seed. The Bobcats....well the Bobcats are a train wreck, but now so is Orlando. Even the Hawks got worse. Miami is going to sweep every team in this division this year :lol:


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1278 » by bigdogdylan5 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:31 am

Ok so i am gonna throw my 2 cents in when i initially saw this trade i hated it but then i let it sink in more and i saw it from Henny's perspective and i see the line of thinking. I dont believe Henny sees a future for Affalo in this organization i think we are gonna feature him as our best player and pad his stats then trade him after this season for a possible lottery pick and young talent. The reality is we are gonna have to be terrible before we get better to get the top picks with the players we have now give us two drafts then we will have 25+ in money to spend in FA thus why we have Harrington expires with Jameer and Hedo. Then he got two first round draft picks next draft as opposed to two in different years from one team so they can be packaged with someone else (BBD) to get another lottery pick i think there is a method to this madness i wouldnt be suprised if we have 3 top picks next draft ours one from an Affalo trade and one from combining Philly and Denver pick with another player BBD
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1279 » by BN » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:32 am

Bad start, but at least we're doing something. Shoot, I really wanted a few players I could get excited about... or at least getting rid of more bad contracts...
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition 

Post#1280 » by RickB-Orlando » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:32 am

AshBlackstone wrote:
Leissak wrote:We gotta plan something cool for when Dwight visits Orlando on March 12!




Honestly, I hope Dwight gets hit by a bus tonight and dies at the hospital.


That's ridiculous and offensive, and totally uncalled for. Root against the guy, sure, but you're going way, way too far.

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