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BadMofoPimp wrote:If Burke is slightly better than Meer, then that is bordering All-Star level.
FYI, a player of that caliber taken with the first (5) picks is not a bad situation to be in.
Def Swami wrote:Draft combine is next week. We'll get more answers then.
Kilgore Trout wrote:Def Swami wrote:Orlando Magic rumor: Orlando had "heart set" on Marcus Smart in 2013 NBA Draft
The Orlando Magic continue to prepare for the 2013 NBA Draft, which is set for June 27th. In his latest mock draft for ESPN Insider, Chad Ford pegs Orlando to select Kentucky center Nerlens Noel with the top overall pick, but Noel may not be the highest player on Orlando's board.
More NBA Draft coverage: Orlando Pinstriped Post SB Nation
"According to sources, Orlando had its heart set on Oklahoma State's Marcus Smart," Ford says, "until he broke its heart when he decided to stay in college." Further complicating Orlando's options if it wins the first overall pick is that Noel, the consensus top prospect in the class, won't address the team's need for a young point guard. If the Magic prefer to go with a point guard, Michigan's Trey Burke is an option for Orlando, Ford says.
http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/20 ... rcus-smart
Interesting.....I did think that picking Smart was looking like a Henny type move.
With all the talent in next years draft what kind of range do you guys think Marcus will be picked?
Kilgore Trout wrote:
Interesting.....I did think that picking Smart was looking like a Henny type move.
With all the talent in next years draft what kind of range do you guys think Marcus will be picked?
Smooth_E wrote:
Lol! I'm glad YOU'RE not the GM, you don't even have proper spelling or grammar! Btw, what star player do you see in this year's draft? They're all role players, you dunce. Burke is a leader, one thing that I can guarantee you that neither McLemore, Noel, Oladipo nor Zeller are. He's the only one who literally and mentally showed up in the tournament. I don't know who you're watching brother.
Had trouble beating players off the dribble? Did you even watch the championship game? I'm not sure if you're serious or whether or not to take you seriously because you seem very misinformed and more delusional than anything else. Potential? Who has more potential? Noel and his questionable knees?
Then you say "Slightly better than Jameer"? But he can't beat people of the dribble? Lol!
Then you end it with this contradiction:
"I bet he is going to put up pretty good numbers [this year] as well, but I'm thinking [long term not just right now]."
Please, just delete your account. We already have to worry about that idiot in North Korea today.
InFlames wrote:Burke is already much better than Jameer was at the same age. Burke is just as good of a scorer if not better, and a much much better passer with better court vision. Even if you think his ceiling is Jameer, (I don't) he will at least be a better passing/playmaking Jameer. That sounds okay to me.
Smooth_E wrote:
Lol! I'm glad YOU'RE not the GM, you don't even have proper spelling or grammar!
Smooth_E wrote:
Please, just delete your account. We already have to worry about that idiot in North Korea today.
Def Swami wrote:Orlando Magic rumor: Orlando had "heart set" on Marcus Smart in 2013 NBA Draft
The Orlando Magic continue to prepare for the 2013 NBA Draft, which is set for June 27th. In his latest mock draft for ESPN Insider, Chad Ford pegs Orlando to select Kentucky center Nerlens Noel with the top overall pick, but Noel may not be the highest player on Orlando's board.
More NBA Draft coverage: Orlando Pinstriped Post SB Nation
"According to sources, Orlando had its heart set on Oklahoma State's Marcus Smart," Ford says, "until he broke its heart when he decided to stay in college." Further complicating Orlando's options if it wins the first overall pick is that Noel, the consensus top prospect in the class, won't address the team's need for a young point guard. If the Magic prefer to go with a point guard, Michigan's Trey Burke is an option for Orlando, Ford says.
http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/20 ... rcus-smart
Mac (US)
Who is rising up your big board the most right now?
Chad Ford (1:01 PM)
I think Trey Burke is still rising. Could go as high as the No. 1 pick. Lots of scenarios where he is No. 2 or No. 3 off the board. PGs are always coveted and Burke's spectacular season continues to intrigue people. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Dennis Schroeder also fast risers.
Cory (US)
You personally, which PG would you rather have, Trey Burke, Dennis Schroder or MCW?
Chad Ford (1:02 PM)
Probably Burke. C.J. McCollum is the other guy that really intrigues me. Not sold he's a PG, but if he is, could be a very good pick.
dan (england )
Isn't 12 high for Gorgui Dieng?
Chad Ford (1:08 PM)
Yes. But he's a big who rebounds, blocks shots and he's proven to be an adept passer out of the high post. For a team that wants a player who can contribute now ... he's a solid pick and after the first seven guys, I think the field really flattens out.
Jack (Syracuse )
I feel like MCW should be a top 10 pick, he had a great tournament despite his final four performance I feel like he is a top 10 pick maybe even top 5, what do u think?
Chad Ford (1:15 PM)
Some teams have him that high. Others don't feel the same way about him. He can really help himself by shooting the ball well in workouts. That's a big concern for scouts right now, but in high school he was a much better shooter.
JT (Orlando)
If the Magic pick Noel in this year's Draft, how much of an improvement would he be over Vucevic or Harris at the 4 or 5 positions?
Chad Ford (1:27 PM)
Not so much an improvement as a different look. He's a much better defender and shot blocker than either guy. More athletic too. All three + Andrew Nicholson would get minutes.
David (Provo, UT)
How high can you see Shroeder going? Thoughts on Wolters?
Chad Ford (1:28 PM)
Could see Schroeder cracking late lottery (Jazz at 14?) or mid first (Celtics at 16?). Currently have him going to Pacers at 23 ... but things are very fluid right now.
jack (minneapolis)
How high can Mccollum go? I hope my wolves grab him at nine.
Chad Ford (1:30 PM)
Very high. Could see the Suns taking him. Magic too. Such a lethal scorer and shooter. If he can prove he's a PG, he's going to go very high.
Dan (Boston)
How bummed were NBA decision makers when Smart didn't enter the draft?
Chad Ford (1:34 PM)
Very. Magic especially upset about it. But other teams like the Jazz affected as well since every other point guard moved up a spot in the draft.
RYgoBOOM wrote:tranjSAIC wrote:Smooth_E wrote:[This guy is a first pick in my opinion.
Dear god I'm glad your not the GM, while I don't really want us to draft Burke I would be OK with it if we had a pick in the 7-15 range. If he is drafted any higher than that the team is going to be sorry they spent such a high pick on a role player. For god sake the had trouble beating guys off the dribble in college, what do you think is going to happen in the pros?
Burke = Slightly better Jameer
I rather gamble on potential then take him that high. I bet he is going to put up pretty good numbers this year as well, but I'm thinking long term not just right now.
I love these little "OMG BURKE BARELY BEATS COLLEGE PLAYERS OFF THE DRIBBLE" rants lol.
I watched over 10 games and every game in the tourney that michigan played and I NEVER saw him struggle doing what he wanted WHEN he wanted. Where do you guys draw this damn conclusion from? And don't say you read it somewhere..........
**** is getting old TBH. He is shifty/crafty with his handles, keeps guys on his hip, has a nasty crossover and even nastier hesitation dribble?
I can't wait till the combine so you guys that are on the antiburke bandwagon can get a swift reality check. Burke will be better than Jameer and that IS saying a ton IMO. Jameer without injuries was and would have been an even better player.
Hatas gonna hate!
tranjSAIC wrote:Smooth_E wrote:
Lol! I'm glad YOU'RE not the GM, you don't even have proper spelling or grammar!
Anyone who nit picks grammar online is a tool. BTW I'm at work right now so I just type real quick without proof reading.
I'm not the only one who see's the holes in Burkes game. If he was as good of a prospect as you seem to think he is, why isn't he ranked higher in such a crapper draft??????
Why can't I think a prospect will have a good rookie year but not be a great player? There are plenty of guys who peeked early like Damon Stoudamire. I want a guy who I think down the road could be a great player. Burke will be a solid pro, NOT WORTH THE NUMBER ONE PICK!!!!!! What part of that don't you understand.
Zmill wrote:Ford giving Schroeder love is very interesting. He has the quickness/length/body type to be a nice 2-way player in this league. Definitely a project, but with Jameer under contract for another year or two I think he would be in a good situation here.
BadMofoPimp wrote:Burke could still end up being having the best career out of all the players in the draft. Wouldn't that warrant the #1 overall pick?
Smooth_E wrote:tranjSAIC wrote:Smooth_E wrote:
Lol! I'm glad YOU'RE not the GM, you don't even have proper spelling or grammar!
Anyone who nit picks grammar online is a tool. BTW I'm at work right now so I just type real quick without proof reading.
I'm not the only one who see's the holes in Burkes game. If he was as good of a prospect as you seem to think he is, why isn't he ranked higher in such a crapper draft??????
Why can't I think a prospect will have a good rookie year but not be a great player? There are plenty of guys who peeked early like Damon Stoudamire. I want a guy who I think down the road could be a great player. Burke will be a solid pro, NOT WORTH THE NUMBER ONE PICK!!!!!! What part of that don't you understand.
For us, you tool. I'm at work too and I can guarantee that I'm under more pressure and responsibilities than you are. Lol at you going back on what you said earlier. Don't go taking shots at people and not expect anything back. I have plenty more that I could say but I'll leave it at that. Don't go forcing your opinions on anyone else. What I said was my own personal opinion, I don't remember insulting you or anyone else. I expect the same treatment in return. I assume we're all adults. Good day.
Smooth_E wrote:
For us, you tool. I'm at work too and I can guarantee that I'm under more pressure and responsibilities than you are. Lol at you going back on what you said earlier. Don't go taking shots at people and not expect anything back. I have plenty more that I could say but I'll leave it at that. Don't go forcing your opinions on anyone else. What I said was my own personal opinion, I don't remember insulting you or anyone else. I expect the same treatment in return. I assume we're all adults. Good day.
