The Anthony Black Thread

ibraheim718 · Post #1281 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:38 pm

RichCollab wrote:Black can be as good as Suggs or better on defense without sacrificing his body as much.

His length and natural instincts gives him an edge.

Suggs game is based on dedication,reading, effort, and putting his body on the line.

Black can become a marvel on defense if he wants too.

He won't be a better defender than Suggs.. ever. He can be almost as good though. Jalen's anticipation instincts are second to no one.

zaymon · Post #1282 » by **zaymon** » Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:25 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:
RichCollab wrote:Black can be as good as Suggs or better on defense without sacrificing his body as much.

His length and natural instincts gives him an edge.

Suggs game is based on dedication,reading, effort, and putting his body on the line.

Black can become a marvel on defense if he wants too.

He won't be a better defender than Suggs.. ever. He can be almost as good though. Jalen's anticipation instincts are second to no one.

Suggs is special on defense but Black has size. You can see the gradation with Suggs<Black<Isaac.
Everyone is great and have different tasks bit JI is arguably the most impactful overall.

I Rasharted · Post #1283 » by **I Rasharted** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:10 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:
RichCollab wrote:Black can be as good as Suggs or better on defense without sacrificing his body as much.

His length and natural instincts gives him an edge.

Suggs game is based on dedication,reading, effort, and putting his body on the line.

Black can become a marvel on defense if he wants too.

He won't be a better defender than Suggs.. ever. He can be almost as good though. Jalen's anticipation instincts are second to no one.

The-Stallion70 · Post #1284 » by **The-Stallion70** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:30 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:
RichCollab wrote:Black can be as good as Suggs or better on defense without sacrificing his body as much.

His length and natural instincts gives him an edge.

Suggs game is based on dedication,reading, effort, and putting his body on the line.

Black can become a marvel on defense if he wants too.

He won't be a better defender than Suggs.. ever. He can be almost as good though. Jalen's anticipation instincts are second to no one.

ibraheim718 · Post #1285 » by **ibraheim718** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:36 pm

The-Stallion70 wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
RichCollab wrote:Black can be as good as Suggs or better on defense without sacrificing his body as much.

His length and natural instincts gives him an edge.

Suggs game is based on dedication,reading, effort, and putting his body on the line.

Black can become a marvel on defense if he wants too.

He won't be a better defender than Suggs.. ever. He can be almost as good though. Jalen's anticipation instincts are second to no one.

Yeah well it was my opinion that Jalen Suggs was going to shoot the 3 at 38-40% when a lot of people on here were down on him (i have the receipts and so many dishes of crow stew that I might have to serve a buffet). I trust my opinion more than yours so I like my chances my statement becomes fact.

basketballRob · Post #1286 » by **basketballRob** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:40 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:
The-Stallion70 wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
He won't be a better defender than Suggs.. ever. He can be almost as good though. Jalen's anticipation instincts are second to no one.

Yeah well it was my opinion that Jalen Suggs was going to shoot the 3 at 38-40% when a lot of people on here were down on him (i have the receipts and so many dishes of crow stew that I might have to serve a buffet). I trust my opinion more than yours so I like my chances my statement becomes fact.

Black has a chance to be better than Suggs. He has size on him and a better shooting touch at a younger age. I thought Jalen would shoot over 35% from 3 this season. I hope you're right about him shooting 38-40%. That would be amazing. Only 58 more games to go.

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Post #1287 » by **eyriq** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:44 pm

As prospects I'd have Suggs ahead of Black. I think Suggs has maintained his value, or slightly lost a tick due to injuries, while Black is steady. So, I still think Suggs has a higher ceiling.

basketballRob · Post #1288 » by **basketballRob** » Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:18 am

Black looks more comfortable shooting 3s from around the top of the arc or wings. Most of his college 3s were from that area.

Some players just aren't good from the corners. I believe Doncic has only made like 10 3-pt shots from the corners in his career and has a terrible percentage.

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KillMonger · Post #1289 » by **KillMonger** » Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:57 am

He has quite a bit of "load up" on his shot, has room to tweak to get rid of that and rep it out.... Honestly I think him going to the bench might open things up more for him offensively.... I mean his role starting seems to be bring the ball up the court and hand it off to paolo or Franz then stand in a corner.... I hope coach can trust him to be a bit more aggressive in the second unit

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basketballRob · Post #1290 » by **basketballRob** » Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:40 pm

ABs former HS teammate at Duncanville may go #1 in 2024. Ron Holland is averaging 20 ppg in the G-league. He looks a little TMac-like.

https://youtu.be/_bLQEelzT9M?feature=shared

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fendilim · Post #1291 » by **fendilim** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:22 am

basketballRob wrote:Black looks more comfortable shooting 3s from around the top of the arc or wings. Most of his college 3s were from that area.

Some players just aren't good from the corners. I believe Doncic has only made like 10 3-pt shots from the corners in his career and has a terrible percentage.

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Bad comparison, imo.

The amount of coverage Luka gets, having the ball in the corner is something Luka should avoid at all times. He is literally trapped on offense already whenever that happens.

Most likely those made shots are ill-advised. Lol

Give him the wide ooen shot quality Black gets on corner 3s, then lets talk.

RichCollab · Post #1292 » by **RichCollab** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:08 am

Feel like Black will be a top 4 player on our team. I like the flashes here and there. Guards take 2 to 4 seasons so I’m patiently waiting for him to get a little more seasoning.

Hoping we can upgrade the guard spot in the near short term with a vet leveraging the money from Fultz and Harris. It may be an offseason move.

KillMonger · Post #1293 » by **KillMonger** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:15 am

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Post #1294 » by **SOUL** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:21 am

Lakers were in a different space with a bunch of young people. Lonzo with free reign and usage and being thrown into the fire = 36/30/45 percentages in 34 minutes. A poised Lonzo type of player isn't out of the realm for AB at all, but it'll come along slowly. We've seen this sort of gradual inclusion of duty and responsibility for most of our rookies for a long time now outside of Paolo. Maybe rookie Suggs was a bit unhinged lol but that wasn't pretty.

Ralof · Post #1295 » by **Ralof** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:11 pm

Still early,way too early,but until now:

-way higher that i expected on D,potenzial seem to be even all defensive;and yes he Is clearly above Suggs in that regard.

-worse than i expected on offense,the fact he could score some 3 It Is encouraging,but i thought he had more creation with ball in his hands.

jonbob17 · Post #1296 » by **jonbob17** » Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:44 am

AB up to 32.4% from deep on 3.6 attempts per 36 minutes.

Last year was Fultz's "best" year shooting at 31.0% on 1.8 attempts per 36.

It feels like AB never shoots it, and i don't always believe it has a chance, but it at least looks like he can handle the corner 3 and he's not scared to look foolish. Ready for the FO to polish Fultz up and find a suitor.

Post #1297 » by **eyriq** » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:02 am

jonbob17 wrote:AB up to 32.4% from deep on 3.6 attempts per 36 minutes.

Last year was Fultz's "best" year shooting at 31.0% on 1.8 attempts per 36.

It feels like AB never shoots it, and i don't always believe it has a chance, but it at least looks like he can handle the corner 3 and he's not scared to look foolish. Ready for the FO to polish Fultz up and find a suitor.

I love watching Black play. High IQ players are a joy.

JoshuaPotter · Post #1298 » by **JoshuaPotter** » Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:44 pm

eyriq wrote:
jonbob17 wrote:AB up to 32.4% from deep on 3.6 attempts per 36 minutes.

Last year was Fultz's "best" year shooting at 31.0% on 1.8 attempts per 36.

It feels like AB never shoots it, and i don't always believe it has a chance, but it at least looks like he can handle the corner 3 and he's not scared to look foolish. Ready for the FO to polish Fultz up and find a suitor.
I love watching Black play. High IQ players are a joy.

Black is that guy who can polish it potentially and become something special from a development standpoint. How special? Well trend factors withstanding the ceiling of course would be 1-2x all star. The floor right now is looking like a 3&D specialist and he has the "D" aspect at average - above average already.

The-Stallion70 · Post #1299 » by **The-Stallion70** » Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:03 pm

Sorry but I just don't see it yet with the guy. 5 points per 20 minutes is so low, like below Harkless territory and when he shoots the ball he looks unnatural, like he feels like he's doing a chore.

He's also not really creating much at all, I know he's a rookie but alot of rookie point guards show more chops on offense than he has.

fendilim · Post #1300 » by **fendilim** » Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:28 pm

The-Stallion70 wrote:Sorry but I just don't see it yet with the guy. 5 points per 20 minutes is so low, like below Harkless territory and when he shoots the ball he looks unnatural, like he feels like he's doing a chore.

He's also not really creating much at all, I know he's a rookie but alot of rookie point guards show more chops on offense than he has.

Low usage