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pepe1991 wrote:Since Lonzo is mentioned, it seems like Lonzo is actually FINALLY is gearing up to return on a floor , but probably not this year.
drsd wrote:RookieStar wrote:Kyle isnt a C.... or if we play him, he has got to be the softest C ever. Tyler Smith i have hope to be a JI clone...
That kind of misses the point, which is, no rookie next year will get regular court time. At all. At any five slots.
As such: why keep the pick? Is the Magic trying to make a G-league allstar team in Osceola. What value is that to Orlando fans?
Residual-Heat wrote:Monk/Black
Suggs/Howard
Franz/Houstan
Paolo/Isaac
Claxton/Mo
The team plays better with a rim protector vs a stretch 5. Claxton > Goga > WCJcedric76 wrote:Residual-Heat wrote:Monk/Black
Suggs/Howard
Franz/Houstan
Paolo/Isaac
Claxton/Mo
Why coaxtoy?
No spreading the floor, it ll hurt p5 production
cedric76 wrote:Residual-Heat wrote:Monk/Black
Suggs/Howard
Franz/Houstan
Paolo/Isaac
Claxton/Mo
Why coaxtoy?
No spreading the floor, it ll hurt p5 production
cedric76 wrote:Residual-Heat wrote:Monk/Black
Suggs/Howard
Franz/Houstan
Paolo/Isaac
Claxton/Mo
Why coaxtoy?
No spreading the floor, it ll hurt p5 production
eyriq wrote:The team plays better with a rim protector vs a stretch 5. Claxton > Goga > WCJcedric76 wrote:Residual-Heat wrote:Monk/Black
Suggs/Howard
Franz/Houstan
Paolo/Isaac
Claxton/Mo
Why coaxtoy?
No spreading the floor, it ll hurt p5 production
Knightro wrote:I don't think signing Monk *and* Claxton is really possible unless they dump Isaac (or Moritz), which I don't think they want to do.
Realistically it would cost like $50M to $55M to acquire both of them in free agency. The only way for the Magic to free up that kind of cap space would be to let all their free agents (Fultz, Harris, Goga, Okeke) all walk and also dump Ingles and one of Isaac/Moritz.
BadMofoPimp wrote:Knightro wrote:I don't think signing Monk *and* Claxton is really possible unless they dump Isaac (or Moritz), which I don't think they want to do.
Realistically it would cost like $50M to $55M to acquire both of them in free agency. The only way for the Magic to free up that kind of cap space would be to let all their free agents (Fultz, Harris, Goga, Okeke) all walk and also dump Ingles and one of Isaac/Moritz.
Doubt the Magic would blow up the roster that far. Maybe one of them is feasible if they go all in.
RichCollab wrote:BadMofoPimp wrote:Knightro wrote:I don't think signing Monk *and* Claxton is really possible unless they dump Isaac (or Moritz), which I don't think they want to do.
Realistically it would cost like $50M to $55M to acquire both of them in free agency. The only way for the Magic to free up that kind of cap space would be to let all their free agents (Fultz, Harris, Goga, Okeke) all walk and also dump Ingles and one of Isaac/Moritz.
Doubt the Magic would blow up the roster that far. Maybe one of them is feasible if they go all in.
Can Magic move from Fultz and add Monk. Also keep Harris and Goga?
RichCollab wrote:Can Magic move from Fultz and add Monk. Also keep Harris and Goga?
SOUL wrote:RichCollab wrote:Can Magic move from Fultz and add Monk. Also keep Harris and Goga?
Keeping Harris is counter-productive if we're also keeping Jett/AB/Suggs/Cole and adding Monk though. Monk is basically taking over the Harris role and Jett would slot in some backup minutes. It's already still crowded with those guys.
Also don't see Goga wanting to stay if he's a 3rd stringer.
RichCollab wrote:Can we have to many shooters?
Knightro wrote:I don't think signing Monk *and* Claxton is really possible unless they dump Isaac (or Moritz), which I don't think they want to do.
Realistically it would cost like $50M to $55M to acquire both of them in free agency. The only way for the Magic to free up that kind of cap space would be to let all their free agents (Fultz, Harris, Goga, Okeke) all walk and also dump Ingles and one of Isaac/Moritz.
Residual-Heat wrote:Knightro wrote:I don't think signing Monk *and* Claxton is really possible unless they dump Isaac (or Moritz), which I don't think they want to do.
Realistically it would cost like $50M to $55M to acquire both of them in free agency. The only way for the Magic to free up that kind of cap space would be to let all their free agents (Fultz, Harris, Goga, Okeke) all walk and also dump Ingles and one of Isaac/Moritz.
You keep Isaac and Mo. Cole and WCJ are not needed if you get Claxton and Monk. You trade Cole and WCJ to teams with capspace for a pick. OKC makes sense for WCJ. Attach a couple of 2nds to Cole if you have to. Decline Ingles option. Okeke and Fultz can leave. Goga can gogo because we wouldnt have minutes for him anyway. Harris is nothing special. Sign Kevon Harris for minimum.
So that leaves Isaac (17.5), Paolo (12), Mo (8), Suggs(9), Black(7.6), Franz (7), Jett (5). A total of just 66 mill in salary. Thats 75 mill in salary cap. Obviously you dont need that much, and i dont want Monk and Claxton if they cost anywhere close to a combined 75 mill/yr, but I'm just pointing out that we can sign open up more capspace. The key is to find a team with cap space wanting to take on Cole and/or WCJ. I dont think itll be difficult.
Black and Howard will have to step up fill a bench role, but if they're not capable of that in their second year then they're probably not worth keeping around. Weltman says he believes in them, and they're part of the reason we didnt even make a move before the trade deadline. So it'll be time for them to show us what theyve got.
RichCollab wrote:Residual-Heat wrote:Knightro wrote:I don't think signing Monk *and* Claxton is really possible unless they dump Isaac (or Moritz), which I don't think they want to do.
Realistically it would cost like $50M to $55M to acquire both of them in free agency. The only way for the Magic to free up that kind of cap space would be to let all their free agents (Fultz, Harris, Goga, Okeke) all walk and also dump Ingles and one of Isaac/Moritz.
You keep Isaac and Mo. Cole and WCJ are not needed if you get Claxton and Monk. You trade Cole and WCJ to teams with capspace for a pick. OKC makes sense for WCJ. Attach a couple of 2nds to Cole if you have to. Decline Ingles option. Okeke and Fultz can leave. Goga can gogo because we wouldnt have minutes for him anyway. Harris is nothing special. Sign Kevon Harris for minimum.
So that leaves Isaac (17.5), Paolo (12), Mo (8), Suggs(9), Black(7.6), Franz (7), Jett (5). A total of just 66 mill in salary. Thats 75 mill in salary cap. Obviously you dont need that much, and i dont want Monk and Claxton if they cost anywhere close to a combined 75 mill/yr, but I'm just pointing out that we can sign open up more capspace. The key is to find a team with cap space wanting to take on Cole and/or WCJ. I dont think itll be difficult.
Black and Howard will have to step up fill a bench role, but if they're not capable of that in their second year then they're probably not worth keeping around. Weltman says he believes in them, and they're part of the reason we didnt even make a move before the trade deadline. So it'll be time for them to show us what theyve got.
Zero chance we move on from that many players this offseason. I’m pretty sure Cole and WCJ are safe.