Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread

[BadMofoPimp]

Im thinking the Blazers weren't offered a 1st round pick for Brogdon, if they were and they passed then it was a dumb decision given his injury history.

My feeling on Brogdon is he just looks after himself. A lot of his injuries iirc are minor and easy to exaggerate. I don't think he takes any chances with his body.

I might be off, but it always looked that way to me. Not a guy who goes to war, come what may.

Brogdon is already 31 years old which we almost never see 1sts offered for non superstar players.

[fendilim]

Im thinking the Blazers weren't offered a 1st round pick for Brogdon, if they were and they passed then it was a dumb decision given his injury history.

My feeling on Brogdon is he just looks after himself. A lot of his injuries iirc are minor and easy to exaggerate. I don't think he takes any chances with his body.

I might be off, but it always looked that way to me. Not a guy who goes to war, come what may.

Brogdon is already 31 years old which we almost never see 1sts offered for non superstar players.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2023/08/01/why-nba-teams-are-valuing-draft-picks-more-than-ever-before/

[BadMofoPimp]

My feeling on Brogdon is he just looks after himself. A lot of his injuries iirc are minor and easy to exaggerate. I don't think he takes any chances with his body.

I might be off, but it always looked that way to me. Not a guy who goes to war, come what may.

Brogdon is already 31 years old which we almost never see 1sts offered for non superstar players.

true

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2023/08/01/why-nba-teams-are-valuing-draft-picks-more-than-ever-before/

What is strange is the Heat is the one team that targets 1sts outside the lottery and undrafted players and has had great success with that process being they have the best strength and conditioning program in the league. They must be doing something right as many teams are starting to adopt that but with much less success. If I was Magic management, one of my goals would be to steal one of those Heat individuals who work in that program by offering them more than any other team would. That is how I would roll the dice as opposed to making risky trades. I bet the Heat would make Jett better than the Magic has done and not by gifting minutes and praying like fans think would work, but by developing in a better process. Hopefully, that is what they are doing by sending him to the G-League. Maye, they have someone working with him down there.

[fendilim]

Brogdon is already 31 years old which we almost never see 1sts offered for non superstar players.

true

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2023/08/01/why-nba-teams-are-valuing-draft-picks-more-than-ever-before/

What is strange is the Heat is the one team that targets 1sts outside the lottery and undrafted players and has had great success with that process being they have the best strength and conditioning program in the league. They must be doing something right as many teams are starting to adopt that but with much less success. If I was Magic management, one of my goals would be to steal one of those Heat individuals who work in that program by offering them more than any other team would. That is how I would roll the dice as opposed to making risky trades.

Being in top condition and high iq really helps. Pat Riley talked about the beginning of the heat culture in the dwade podcast

[BadMofoPimp]

true

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2023/08/01/why-nba-teams-are-valuing-draft-picks-more-than-ever-before/

What is strange is the Heat is the one team that targets 1sts outside the lottery and undrafted players and has had great success with that process being they have the best strength and conditioning program in the league. They must be doing something right as many teams are starting to adopt that but with much less success. If I was Magic management, one of my goals would be to steal one of those Heat individuals who work in that program by offering them more than any other team would. That is how I would roll the dice as opposed to making risky trades.

Being in top condition and high iq really helps. Pat Riley talked about the beginning of the heat culture in the dwade podcast

I think their coach makes way too many questionable adjustment during the game and many don't work out for him but their players often bail him out. Maybe, it is their program that does it. I would like to learn that by stealing some of their staff, lol. I remember during the Pistons championship runs they accomplished alot due to Arnie Kander.

[fendilim]

What is strange is the Heat is the one team that targets 1sts outside the lottery and undrafted players and has had great success with that process being they have the best strength and conditioning program in the league. They must be doing something right as many teams are starting to adopt that but with much less success. If I was Magic management, one of my goals would be to steal one of those Heat individuals who work in that program by offering them more than any other team would. That is how I would roll the dice as opposed to making risky trades.

Being in top condition and high iq really helps. Pat Riley talked about the beginning of the heat culture in the dwade podcast

I think their coach makes way too many questionable adjustment during the game and many don't work out for him but their players often bail him out. Maybe, it is their program that does it. I would like to learn that by stealing some of their staff, lol. I remember during the Pistons championship runs they accomplished alot due to Arnie Kander.

Isnt arnie with us now?

[ChosenSavior]

Being in top condition and high iq really helps. Pat Riley talked about the beginning of the heat culture in the dwade podcast

I think their coach makes way too many questionable adjustment during the game and many don't work out for him but their players often bail him out. Maybe, it is their program that does it. I would like to learn that by stealing some of their staff, lol. I remember during the Pistons championship runs they accomplished alot due to Arnie Kander.

Isnt arnie with us now?

He is.

https://www.nba.com/magic/news/orlando-magic-arnie-kander-vice-president-player-performance-wellness-release-20230418

[BadMofoPimp]

I think their coach makes way too many questionable adjustment during the game and many don't work out for him but their players often bail him out. Maybe, it is their program that does it. I would like to learn that by stealing some of their staff, lol. I remember during the Pistons championship runs they accomplished alot due to Arnie Kander.

Isnt arnie with us now?

He is.

https://www.nba.com/magic/news/orlando-magic-arnie-kander-vice-president-player-performance-wellness-release-20230418

I reckon he has been impactful with their recent success.

[The-Stallion70]

If there are Zero good trades available where the Magic get the short end of the stick, what do you expect Management to do?

How do you know there were zero good trades available? Many respected posters on here have lamented the Magic's decision to stand pat as well.

Do you actually think a single poster on this board knows what goes on behind closed doors? Obviously, you nor I do.

We do know McDermott went for a 2nd round pick.

He's a player who can help us.

The Magic have a bounty of 2nd round picks, we are not in the Spurs division. It makes alot of sense for to make that trade.

There isnt much of a reason not to be upset at this.


But you're right we should just be hunkie-dory happy with whatever management does.

[Orl_Magic]

Facts! Dougie MAC would have been a perfect for our team.

[Orl_Magic]

Maybe we have been black balled throughout the league and nobody will take Weltman's calls.

[JoshuaPotter]

Maybe we have been black balled throughout the league and nobody will take Weltman's calls.

I enjoy a good conspiracy.

[Knightro]

I don't think McDermott would have helped much at all.

Great shooter, but a horrendous defender and not really capable of sliding up to guard SGs or sliding down to guard PFs.

So his minutes would have come at the expense of Ingles, who gives more as a passer and facilitator while also being a good shooter (albeit a low volume one).

[Skybox]

Maybe we have been black balled throughout the league and nobody will take Weltman's calls.

I think it's more likely he hasn't made any.

[RookieStar]

Facts! Dougie MAC would have been a perfect for our team.

As a what? If we didn't have Ingles sure. Defense are the same despite the age difference, 3pt threat are the same. He just can't dribble or lead the offense like Jingles can.

[bigdogdylan5]

Maybe we have been black balled throughout the league and nobody will take Weltman's calls.

I think it's more likely he hasn't made any.

Really you think our GM made no calls? What evidence do you have? You think he is completely lying in the Orlando sentinel piece where he said he talked to teams but always hard to know how serious teams on other end were? Also said prices were not what they were comfortable paying

[Skybox]

Maybe we have been black balled throughout the league and nobody will take Weltman's calls.

I think it's more likely he hasn't made any.

Really you think our GM made no calls? What evidence do you have? You think he is completely lying in the Orlando sentinel piece where he said he talked to teams but always hard to know how serious teams on other end were? Also said prices were not what they were comfortable paying

yes...he's got a tell. Look at how his left eye twitches when he said it

[SOUL]

Read on Twitter

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Mose confirmed best shooting form on team

[fendilim]

Read on Twitter

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Mose confirmed best shooting form on team

Give him a jersey already

[SOUL]

Watch on YouTube

Kinda cool, I guess these are three guys who are Raptors fans who talk about the NBA but were in Orlando and went to a Magic game and told their experiences in the arena/thoughts on t he team.