THE Trade Deadline Thread

[magicman123]

who wants to start an otis appreciation thread? that should go over well

I by no means think he's done a good job, but not just pulling a deal for the sake of pulling a deal was one of the few things he's done well.

you are right, he would of screwed something up

[Cammo101]

It is a weird spot for Otis. Clearly he needs to find more talent to pair with Dwight. He likely would have an easier time in the offseason, but then JRich and his expiring were our best trade chip and they just went kaput.

I just hope Otis sees what needs to be done and has a plan for it. Nash and Randolph should/should have been the plan IMO. Randolph today, Nash in the offseason.

[Magicfan94]

It is a weird spot for Otis. Clearly he needs to find more talent to pair with Dwight. He likely would have an easier time in the offseason, but then JRich and his expiring were our best trade chip and they just went kaput.

I just hope Otis sees what needs to be done and has a plan for it. Nash and Randolph should/should have been the plan IMO. Randolph today, Nash in the offseason.

I think Randolph was a pipe dream. Memphis wasn't trading him.

[dwightsmight12]

who wants to start an otis appreciation thread? that should go over well

I by no means think he's done a good job, but not just pulling a deal for the sake of pulling a deal was one of the few things he's done well.

you are right, he would of screwed something up

He shouldn't have made a deal to make a deal...he should have made a deal to improve the team. We could have landed someone that gave us a better shot, and if he couldn't have, then WTF is he a GM? Z-Bo, Crash, Mayo, or Iggy could have all been had for a reasonable price...and everyone should get off Jameer's nuts already, the guy has regressed since the injury and cannot lead a team (or run an offense). I'm so sick of it.

[Nemesis21]

It is a weird spot for Otis. Clearly he needs to find more talent to pair with Dwight. He likely would have an easier time in the offseason, but then JRich and his expiring were our best trade chip and they just went kaput.

I just hope Otis sees what needs to be done and has a plan for it. Nash and Randolph should/should have been the plan IMO. Randolph today, Nash in the offseason.

I'm going to get my hopes up, and still wish for Nash in the offseason.

[Cammo101]

He shouldn't have made a deal to make a deal...he should have made a deal to improve the team. We could have landed someone that gave us a better shot, and if he couldn't have, then WTF is he a GM? Z-Bo, Crash, Mayo, or Iggy could have all been had for a reasonable price...and everyone should get off Jameer's nuts already, the guy has regressed since the injury and cannot lead a team (or run an offense). I'm so sick of it.

Iggy was not on the trade block. He is going to have to make a bigger move than Mayo or Crash. Those guys would be like trying to band aid the Titanic. Getting those guys would be giving up assets we need to make a run at real top talent later on for the sake of pretending to still be competitive.

Not trading for Mayo or Crash was a smart move.

[EasternMagic]

if rip is bought out do we look at him as an option... probably not, but i just wanted to say it

[BelgianMagic]

Some other news again

NY is getting another big man.

@NYPost_Berman Marc Berman
Two sources said Rockets and Jared Jeffries are now working on buyout. A favorite of Mike D'Antoni's as Knicks review big-man options.

Sheed will NOT be coming back

@daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Told Cs will NOT be re-signing Sheed. Gotta be Murphy after buyout.

NY is gonna waive some players

@NYPost_Berman Marc Berman
Knicks can easily open roster spots for two bigs by waiving either Balkman, Brewer, or Anthony Carter.

I really doubt they're gonna waive Brewer .. But:

The Knicks offered Corey Brewer to the Bulls, a source said, but he had been available in his previous stop at Minnesota and the Bulls never had interest.

So Brewer is available ..

[Shishnizzle]

I really don't want to hear from anyone in the Magic organization that we are trying to win a championship because it makes them and us look very stupid. This team has no chance at a championship. Our biggest problem is that we don't have one player that will or can take the ball to the basket. Defenses don't have to respect us for the dribble drive at all. Just keep us out of the paint and force us to jack up threes. Let Dwight get all he wants. Dwight and a bunch of chuckers.

We should sit Dwight for the rest of the season and hope we can end up in the lottery like the Spurs did when they got Duncan.

We should not sign J Rich and we will probably get out bid for him anyway. I see this as a cost cutting move by the organization. They want us to believe they are bringing him back but he will end up out of our price range. Which isn't a bad thing, but Dwight is gone and when he leaves that will be the last NBA game I ever watch. Simply because the NBA is telling the city of Orlando that they are in the group of teams like Memphis that can never win a Championship in their league.

[Magicfan94]

He shouldn't have made a deal to make a deal...he should have made a deal to improve the team. We could have landed someone that gave us a better shot, and if he couldn't have, then WTF is he a GM? Z-Bo, Crash, Mayo, or Iggy could have all been had for a reasonable price...and everyone should get off Jameer's nuts already, the guy has regressed since the injury and cannot lead a team (or run an offense). I'm so sick of it.

Except only one of the guys you mentioned got traded. Meaning, they weren't really out there to be had that easily. Another looked like he was and then the team that had him got cold feet.

Sorry. They weren't out there to be had, and what Charlotte got for Wallace was a lot better than we could do.

At this point is not about a better shot. We've played that game twice now...

Vince Carter was to make us better
Jason Richardson was to make us better
Gilbert Arenas was to make us better

Those guys are no different than Wallace, or Mayo, or Igoudala (Randolph on the otherhand is a different story).

Mayo's contract is favorable, he would have been a decent fit, but the guy is a terrible shooter, can't play defense, and turns the ball over a lot. He's still living off a magazine cover in high school and a couple good games at USC. That honeymoon would have lasted about 5 minutes, then he'd go 3-10, turn the ball over a lot, and get destroyed by some other shooting guard.

Iguodala? Not only is his contract awful, he's severly overhyped and is a horrible defender. He has become a much better distributor, but that's what Hedo's here for. And Hedo does a good job of it. I really don't think he makes the Magic that much better.

Wallace? His defense is very good. But his contract goes through '13 and is over 10 mil a year. On top of that, Charlotte's not taking Richardson over Portland's deal. They lose 10 mil and get 2 first rounders from Portland.

[Blue_and_Whte]

He shouldn't have made a deal to make a deal...he should have made a deal to improve the team. We could have landed someone that gave us a better shot, and if he couldn't have, then WTF is he a GM? Z-Bo, Crash, Mayo, or Iggy could have all been had for a reasonable price...and everyone should get off Jameer's nuts already, the guy has regressed since the injury and cannot lead a team (or run an offense). I'm so sick of it.

Oh yeah..You mean waive his enchanted "Make all the GM's accept what I offer" wand. Not to mention every GM in the history of sports succeeds in making trade offers work until Otis Smith.

[dwightsmight12]

He shouldn't have made a deal to make a deal...he should have made a deal to improve the team. We could have landed someone that gave us a better shot, and if he couldn't have, then WTF is he a GM? Z-Bo, Crash, Mayo, or Iggy could have all been had for a reasonable price...and everyone should get off Jameer's nuts already, the guy has regressed since the injury and cannot lead a team (or run an offense). I'm so sick of it.

Iggy was not on the trade block. He is going to have to make a bigger move than Mayo or Crash. Those guys would be like trying to band aid the Titanic. Getting those guys would be giving up assets we need to make a run at real top talent later on for the sake of pretending to still be competitive.

Not trading for Mayo or Crash was a smart move.

Was Deron on the TB to anyone's knowledge, was Jeff Green? No. I was just using Iggy as an example. Anyways, I don't believe we'll ever land some "real top talent" as long as Otis is here...

[Blue_and_Whte]

He shouldn't have made a deal to make a deal...he should have made a deal to improve the team. We could have landed someone that gave us a better shot, and if he couldn't have, then WTF is he a GM? Z-Bo, Crash, Mayo, or Iggy could have all been had for a reasonable price...and everyone should get off Jameer's nuts already, the guy has regressed since the injury and cannot lead a team (or run an offense). I'm so sick of it.

Except only one of the guys you mentioned got traded. Meaning, they weren't really out there to be had that easily. Another looked like he was and then the team that had him got cold feet.

Sorry. They weren't out there to be had, and what Charlotte got for Wallace was a lot better than we could do.

At this point is not about a better shot. We've played that game twice now...

Vince Carter was to make us better
Jason Richardson was to make us better
Gilbert Arenas was to make us better

Those guys are no different than Wallace, or Mayo, or Igoudala (Randolph on the otherhand is a different story).

Mayo's contract is favorable, he would have been a decent fit, but the guy is a terrible shooter, can't play defense, and turns the ball over a lot. He's still living off a magazine cover in high school and a couple good games at USC. That honeymoon would have lasted about 5 minutes, then he'd go 3-10, turn the ball over a lot, and get destroyed by some other shooting guard.

Iguodala? Not only is his contract awful, he's severly overhyped and is a horrible defender. He has become a much better distributor, but that's what Hedo's here for. And Hedo does a good job of it. I really don't think he makes the Magic that much better.

Wallace? His defense is very good. But his contract goes through '13 and is over 10 mil a year. On top of that, Charlotte's not taking Richardson over Portland's deal. They lose 10 mil and get 2 first rounders from Portland.

Iggy isnt a horrible defender. He's actually known for his defense. Everything else I agree with. Most of the people panicing are just mad that A trade wasn't they couldn't care less if its wasa major improvment or a lateral move. That's just how people are on this board for whatever reason.

They don't care that we had a 0.1% chance of landing an elite player. Because Otis didnt do it...he should be fired.

[Magicfan94]

My overall point is, the Magic will make changes. Bringing in the Wallaces, etc of the league aren't the changes that will make this team immensly better. I fully believe we'll make a run at someone huge before Dwight's contract is up...or we'll make a run with Dwight in the summer of '12 like Wade did with Miami.

That being said, bringing in average player, after average player doesn't do anything for this team other than burden it with more salary to make that 1-2 everyone wants tougher.

I'm glad we didn't rush and make a deal today. I wish we had used that mentality back in Decemeber when we grabbed Arenas, but what is done, is done.

[DHoward4Mvp]

Hey guys, remember when Otis landed Rafer Alston at the trading deadline?? That was a pretty fun day

[Blue_and_Whte]

And on cue with my last post.

Was Deron on the TB to anyone's knowledge, was Jeff Green? No. I was just using Iggy as an example. Anyways, I don't believe we'll ever land some "real top talent" as long as Otis is here...

So lame.

[Magicfan94]

He shouldn't have made a deal to make a deal...he should have made a deal to improve the team. We could have landed someone that gave us a better shot, and if he couldn't have, then WTF is he a GM? Z-Bo, Crash, Mayo, or Iggy could have all been had for a reasonable price...and everyone should get off Jameer's nuts already, the guy has regressed since the injury and cannot lead a team (or run an offense). I'm so sick of it.

Except only one of the guys you mentioned got traded. Meaning, they weren't really out there to be had that easily. Another looked like he was and then the team that had him got cold feet.

Sorry. They weren't out there to be had, and what Charlotte got for Wallace was a lot better than we could do.

At this point is not about a better shot. We've played that game twice now...

Vince Carter was to make us better
Jason Richardson was to make us better
Gilbert Arenas was to make us better

Those guys are no different than Wallace, or Mayo, or Igoudala (Randolph on the otherhand is a different story).

Mayo's contract is favorable, he would have been a decent fit, but the guy is a terrible shooter, can't play defense, and turns the ball over a lot. He's still living off a magazine cover in high school and a couple good games at USC. That honeymoon would have lasted about 5 minutes, then he'd go 3-10, turn the ball over a lot, and get destroyed by some other shooting guard.

Iguodala? Not only is his contract awful, he's severly overhyped and is a horrible defender. He has become a much better distributor, but that's what Hedo's here for. And Hedo does a good job of it. I really don't think he makes the Magic that much better.

Wallace? His defense is very good. But his contract goes through '13 and is over 10 mil a year. On top of that, Charlotte's not taking Richardson over Portland's deal. They lose 10 mil and get 2 first rounders from Portland.

Iggy isnt a horrible defender. He's actually known for his defense. Everything else I agree with. Most of the people panicing are just mad that A trade wasn't they couldn't care less if its wasa major improvment or a lateral move. That's just how people are on this board for whatever reason.

They don't care that we had a 0.1% chance of landing an elite player. Because Otis didnt do it...he should be fired.

I should have said perimeter. My apologies. He's a very good on the ball defender and can guard any position, but I still don't think his Hindenberg contract is worth it.

[DHoward4Mvp]

I wish the NBA was like the NFL.. you suck or your team doesnt want you anymore, goodbye!!

Lets see, goodbye Turk, goodbye Arenas!!
That would also be pretty cool

[BelgianMagic]

Iguodala? Not only is his contract awful, he's severly overhyped and is a horrible defender. He has become a much better distributor, but that's what Hedo's here for. And Hedo does a good job of it. I really don't think he makes the Magic that much better.

I didn't read the rest of your post, but I really hope you were kidding when calling Iggy a horrible defender?

He's one of the best perimeter defenders in this league. Coach K of Team USA called him one of the best perimeter defenders he's ever worked with last summer ..

So please don't call Iggy a horrible defender

[Magicfan94]

Was Deron on the TB to anyone's knowledge, was Jeff Green? No. I was just using Iggy as an example. Anyways, I don't believe we'll ever land some "real top talent" as long as Otis is here...

Major differences there. Both situations were unique.

OKC needed a center. Badly. They traded for one of the top centers in the game. One who has been known to be a tough out.

Deron Williams was traded for a rookie that was a top 5 pick, a decent point guard, and two draft picks that will likely end up in the lottery (Nets this year, Golden State's next year)...That's a lot to give up for one player...we don't have assets like that