Official Spec Thread: I guess now's the time to blow this dumpster fire up and bask in the glow!

[MAGICian619]

If the teams that tanked better than us are rewarded then yeah....we didn't do enough and it bit us in the azz.....again....not going to lie....i did question why they brought Ennis back....why did they feel the need to get Wagner and brazdekus when Franks and Hall were doing the job just fine? Ennis/Wagner/Brazdekus are probably responsible for a few wins that might cost us a top 4/5 selection

This is the part that pisses me off the most. I get that we can't lose every game but we are the only tanking team actively searching for the perfect 10 day compliment pieces. Should have stuck with Franks and Hall as they were terrible but no we "needed" more shooters or forwards or whatever. Completely unnecessary and those guy likely made a few points difference in the recent close games that we won.

[RookieStar]

If the teams that tanked better than us are rewarded then yeah....we didn't do enough and it bit us in the azz.....again....not going to lie....i did question why they brought Ennis back....why did they feel the need to get Wagner and brazdekus when Franks and Hall were doing the job just fine? Ennis/Wagner/Brazdekus are probably responsible for a few wins that might cost us a top 4/5 selection

This is the part that pisses me off the most. I get that we can't lose every game but we are the only tanking team actively searching for the perfect 10 day compliment pieces. Should have stuck with Franks and Hall as they were terrible but no we "needed" more shooters or forwards or whatever. Completely unnecessary and those guy likely made a few points difference in the recent close games that we won.

I dunno as well. I can only think that Wagner was signed in the thinking of the future( next season). Like we need to fill up our roster and we probably think that he would be good for us. So do what they did with Birch/MCW.. sign him then make him earn it then dangle that contract for next year.

[SOUL]

People were saying Hall > Bamba his first game and Franks was a solid player who didn't really do anything too crazy but could hit open shots. Mo Wagner looked absolutely awful in Boston and Iggy barely had any NBA experience at all.

Let's stop acting like we brought in LeBron and Giannis.

[KillMonger]

People were saying Hall > Bamba his first game and Franks was a solid player who didn't really do anything too crazy but could hit open shots. Mo Wagner looked absolutely awful in Boston and Iggy barely had any NBA experience at all.

Let's stop acting like we brought in LeBron and Giannis.

Stop with the hyperbole people understand that these guys are who they are but the reality of the situation is Wagner is pretty much a big part of a W that we didn't need....we don't win that memphis game without him and Ignas was pretty key in the detroit game as well

[SOUL]

People were saying Hall > Bamba his first game and Franks was a solid player who didn't really do anything too crazy but could hit open shots. Mo Wagner looked absolutely awful in Boston and Iggy barely had any NBA experience at all.

Let's stop acting like we brought in LeBron and Giannis.

Stop with the hyperbole people understand that these guys are who they are but the reality of the situation is Wagner is pretty much a big part of a W that we didn't need....we don't win that memphis game without him and Ignas was pretty key in the detroit game as well

It's just a useless exercise that makes people just sound whiny.

What's next, we gonna say playing Chasson Randle in a game where he scored 25 is stupid? He's sucked most of these games, now it's stupid to play him if he goes off? We should've played a player that we knew before the game that was gonna suck?

Playing the "what if" game with scrubs doesn't work when we're talking about tanking, it's all based on random outbursts of big games.

There's a difference between the Doncic draft and playing our starters the first quarter of the last game (which he had complete control over not doing) when every other team wasn't doing that, versus our scrubs beating other people's scrubs and people nitpicking what scrubs we should've played or not signed.

These arguments make zero sense. Yes, those players played well during those games, that is not lost on me. But nobody sees us signing Mo **** Wagner and Ignas **** Brazdeikis and thinks "Oh no, our tank is in trouble!"

[Bergmaniac]

The way some here talk about Wagner you'd think we have signed some stud, he's been quite terrible overall. -13.7 On/off, 38.5 FG%, etc. Yeah, he got hot against Memphis, but even the worst NBA players get hot once in a while when given the green light. If Cole had missed that buzzer beater against the Grizzlies or if the Grizzlies hadn't missed a million good looks in the second half and if Brazdeikis and Randle hadn't randomly gotten hot against Detroit we'd have been congratulating the management for finding a great tank commander in Wagner.

[KillMonger]

The way some here talk about Wagner you'd think we have signed some stud, he's been quite terrible overall. -13.7 On/off, 38.5 FG%, etc. Yeah, he got hot against Memphis, but even the worst NBA players get hot once in a while when given the green light. If Cole had missed that buzzer beater against the Grizzlies or if the Grizzlies hadn't missed a million good looks in the second half and if Brazdeikis and Randle hadn't randomly gotten hot against Detroit we'd have been congratulating the management for finding a great tank commander in Wagner.

wagner is trash....franks/hall are worse....it doesn't matter now but it was unnecessary

[KillMonger]

People were saying Hall > Bamba his first game and Franks was a solid player who didn't really do anything too crazy but could hit open shots. Mo Wagner looked absolutely awful in Boston and Iggy barely had any NBA experience at all.

Let's stop acting like we brought in LeBron and Giannis.

Stop with the hyperbole people understand that these guys are who they are but the reality of the situation is Wagner is pretty much a big part of a W that we didn't need....we don't win that memphis game without him and Ignas was pretty key in the detroit game as well

It's just a useless exercise that makes people just sound whiny.

What's next, we gonna say playing Chasson Randle in a game where he scored 25 is stupid? He's sucked most of these games, now it's stupid to play him if he goes off? We should've played a player that we knew before the game that was gonna suck?

Playing the "what if" game with scrubs doesn't work when we're talking about tanking, it's all based on random outbursts of big games.

There's a difference between the Doncic draft and playing our starters the first quarter of the last game (which he had complete control over not doing) when every other team wasn't doing that, versus our scrubs beating other people's scrubs and people nitpicking what scrubs we should've played or not signed.

These arguments make zero sense. Yes, those players played well during those games, that is not lost on me. But nobody sees us signing Mo **** Wagner and Ignas **** Brazdeikis and thinks "Oh no, our tank is in trouble!"

well guess what we may not have thought that but.....the tank is in trouble....the tank was half-assed from the start so it's hollow to even argue any further but thing is we were fine in terms of the tank then they went and did something unnecessary...i wouldn't even be like this if we could skin the cat in a different way but it's draft only for us....i'm sorry about whining about trying to secure better odds to try and land a star potential player....cause scottie barnes ain't it chief....jalen johnson ain't it....end of the day it's just another year the magic didn't tank well enough, will it bite us? we'll see

[SOUL]

Stop with the hyperbole people understand that these guys are who they are but the reality of the situation is Wagner is pretty much a big part of a W that we didn't need....we don't win that memphis game without him and Ignas was pretty key in the detroit game as well

It's just a useless exercise that makes people just sound whiny.

What's next, we gonna say playing Chasson Randle in a game where he scored 25 is stupid? He's sucked most of these games, now it's stupid to play him if he goes off? We should've played a player that we knew before the game that was gonna suck?

Playing the "what if" game with scrubs doesn't work when we're talking about tanking, it's all based on random outbursts of big games.

There's a difference between the Doncic draft and playing our starters the first quarter of the last game (which he had complete control over not doing) when every other team wasn't doing that, versus our scrubs beating other people's scrubs and people nitpicking what scrubs we should've played or not signed.

These arguments make zero sense. Yes, those players played well during those games, that is not lost on me. But nobody sees us signing Mo **** Wagner and Ignas **** Brazdeikis and thinks "Oh no, our tank is in trouble!"

well guess what we may not have thought that but.....the tank is in trouble....the tank was half-assed from the start so it's hollow to even argue any further but thing is we were fine in terms of the tank then they went and did something unnecessary...i wouldn't even be like this if we could skin the cat in a different way but it's draft only for us....i'm sorry about whining about trying to secure better odds to try and land a star potential player....cause scottie barnes ain't it chief....jalen johnson ain't it....end of the day it's just another year the magic didn't tank well enough, will it bite us? we'll see

I just don't know what you're expecting though.. the 2nd worst record? Top 3 all have the same odds for the best pick. We're still in play for that.

That can be our hope, sure, but we won the game against Detroit.. and Cole had two game winners this year. Things we can't exactly control since game winners are just as coin flippy as anything in the NBA. And the game versus Detroit our scrubs outplayed their scrubs, we played our guys like 20 straight minutes and still won.

New tanking rules means we have a good chance as long as we're in the top 4-5, but just as equal chance to move out. Only 1st place would make ppl happy because we can only fall to 5 there.

People need to relax and not hang on to every game or every little thing especially when it comes to tanking.

I am a proponent of tanking and being as bad as we can be when we're a bad team, but that means not freaking out every time scrubs or young guys play well because it will inevitably happen.

We also started from a spot of relative expectance to be a decent team even without Isaac this year, compared to some of these teams that knew they would be bad because they were young. We tore down our team and have absolutely been the 2nd worst team since Feb, so to still be one of the worst teams is impressive to me.

[KillMonger]

It's just a useless exercise that makes people just sound whiny.

What's next, we gonna say playing Chasson Randle in a game where he scored 25 is stupid? He's sucked most of these games, now it's stupid to play him if he goes off? We should've played a player that we knew before the game that was gonna suck?

Playing the "what if" game with scrubs doesn't work when we're talking about tanking, it's all based on random outbursts of big games.

There's a difference between the Doncic draft and playing our starters the first quarter of the last game (which he had complete control over not doing) when every other team wasn't doing that, versus our scrubs beating other people's scrubs and people nitpicking what scrubs we should've played or not signed.

These arguments make zero sense. Yes, those players played well during those games, that is not lost on me. But nobody sees us signing Mo **** Wagner and Ignas **** Brazdeikis and thinks "Oh no, our tank is in trouble!"

well guess what we may not have thought that but.....the tank is in trouble....the tank was half-assed from the start so it's hollow to even argue any further but thing is we were fine in terms of the tank then they went and did something unnecessary...i wouldn't even be like this if we could skin the cat in a different way but it's draft only for us....i'm sorry about whining about trying to secure better odds to try and land a star potential player....cause scottie barnes ain't it chief....jalen johnson ain't it....end of the day it's just another year the magic didn't tank well enough, will it bite us? we'll see

I just don't know what you're expecting though.. the 2nd worst record? Top 3 all have the same odds for the best pick. We're still in play for that.

That can be our hope, sure, but we won the game against Detroit.. and Cole had two game winners this year. Things we can't exactly control since game winners are just as coin flippy as anything in the NBA. And the game versus Detroit our scrubs outplayed their scrubs, we played our guys like 20 straight minutes and still won.

New tanking rules means we have a good chance as long as we're in the top 4-5, but just as equal chance to move out. Only 1st place would make ppl happy because we can only fall to 5 there.

People need to relax and not hang on to every game or every little thing especially when it comes to tanking.

I am a proponent of tanking and being as bad as we can be when we're a bad team, but that means not freaking out every time scrubs or young guys play well because it will inevitably happen.

We also started from a spot of relative expectance to be a decent team even without Isaac this year, compared to some of these teams that knew they would be bad because they were young. We tore down our team and have absolutely been the 2nd worst team since Feb, so to still be one of the worst teams is impressive to me.

fair enough, still feel the way i feel though but we will see what happens

[yoyojw17]

Stop with the hyperbole people understand that these guys are who they are but the reality of the situation is Wagner is pretty much a big part of a W that we didn't need....we don't win that memphis game without him and Ignas was pretty key in the detroit game as well

It's just a useless exercise that makes people just sound whiny.

What's next, we gonna say playing Chasson Randle in a game where he scored 25 is stupid? He's sucked most of these games, now it's stupid to play him if he goes off? We should've played a player that we knew before the game that was gonna suck?

Playing the "what if" game with scrubs doesn't work when we're talking about tanking, it's all based on random outbursts of big games.

There's a difference between the Doncic draft and playing our starters the first quarter of the last game (which he had complete control over not doing) when every other team wasn't doing that, versus our scrubs beating other people's scrubs and people nitpicking what scrubs we should've played or not signed.

These arguments make zero sense. Yes, those players played well during those games, that is not lost on me. But nobody sees us signing Mo **** Wagner and Ignas **** Brazdeikis and thinks "Oh no, our tank is in trouble!"

well guess what we may not have thought that but.....the tank is in trouble....the tank was half-assed from the start so it's hollow to even argue any further but thing is we were fine in terms of the tank then they went and did something unnecessary...i wouldn't even be like this if we could skin the cat in a different way but it's draft only for us....i'm sorry about whining about trying to secure better odds to try and land a star potential player....cause scottie barnes ain't it chief....jalen johnson ain't it....end of the day it's just another year the magic didn't tank well enough, will it bite us? we'll see

How much more tanking can we do?

We are currently playing a group of players .... All of which prior to the trade dead line were 2nd ... Or 3rd stringers.... Or even yet.... Weren't even on a team. Ross... out for the season.... mcw... haven't heard his name to the point that I wonder if he's still on our team. Chuma out for the rest of the season. Not much you can to get worse. But the coaches and players that are still here are playing for their jobs and futures. Some of these players are trying to show they deserve minutes next year... Which could lead to trades in the off season of the more expensive players.... players are also auditioning for other teams if they aren't retained. Coaches are trying to figure out what they have going into the summer.

Do you think RJ is thinking... "Man... Lemme play worse so that the magic can get green.... And then I'm even deeper on the bench"... Nope it's... "Lemme show what I can do so that I can put my flag in the ground"

And if that leads to random wins .. so be it.

But yes... I would rather lose all games... In respectful manners. Lol

[KillMonger]

It's just a useless exercise that makes people just sound whiny.

What's next, we gonna say playing Chasson Randle in a game where he scored 25 is stupid? He's sucked most of these games, now it's stupid to play him if he goes off? We should've played a player that we knew before the game that was gonna suck?

Playing the "what if" game with scrubs doesn't work when we're talking about tanking, it's all based on random outbursts of big games.

There's a difference between the Doncic draft and playing our starters the first quarter of the last game (which he had complete control over not doing) when every other team wasn't doing that, versus our scrubs beating other people's scrubs and people nitpicking what scrubs we should've played or not signed.

These arguments make zero sense. Yes, those players played well during those games, that is not lost on me. But nobody sees us signing Mo **** Wagner and Ignas **** Brazdeikis and thinks "Oh no, our tank is in trouble!"

well guess what we may not have thought that but.....the tank is in trouble....the tank was half-assed from the start so it's hollow to even argue any further but thing is we were fine in terms of the tank then they went and did something unnecessary...i wouldn't even be like this if we could skin the cat in a different way but it's draft only for us....i'm sorry about whining about trying to secure better odds to try and land a star potential player....cause scottie barnes ain't it chief....jalen johnson ain't it....end of the day it's just another year the magic didn't tank well enough, will it bite us? we'll see

How much more tanking can we do?

We are currently playing a group of players .... All of which prior to the trade dead line were 2nd ... Or 3rd stringers.... Or even yet.... Weren't even on a team. Ross... out for the season.... mcw... haven't heard his name to the point that I wonder if he's still on our team. Chuma out for the rest of the season. Not much you can to get worse. But the coaches and players that are still here are playing for their jobs and futures. Some of these players are trying to show they deserve minutes next year... Which could lead to trades in the off season of the more expensive players.... players are also auditioning for other teams if they aren't retained. Coaches are trying to figure out what they have going into the summer.

Do you think RJ is thinking... "Man... Lemme play worse so that the magic can get green.... And then I'm even deeper on the bench"... Nope it's... "Lemme show what I can do so that I can put my flag in the ground"

And if that leads to random wins .. so be it.

But yes... I would rather lose all games... In respectful manners. Lol

if you want me to be honest i could care less what the players are thinking....i'm a fan, i just want the team to be relevant again....i'm happy RJ and these young guys are on the team but real talk theres only so much i'm going to feel for these millionaires....i'm thinking about the long game and if we can shorten our rebuild and get back on track to relevancy.....the fastest way to do that is to get star talent.

[MoMM]

It's just a useless exercise that makes people just sound whiny.

What's next, we gonna say playing Chasson Randle in a game where he scored 25 is stupid? He's sucked most of these games, now it's stupid to play him if he goes off? We should've played a player that we knew before the game that was gonna suck?

Playing the "what if" game with scrubs doesn't work when we're talking about tanking, it's all based on random outbursts of big games.

There's a difference between the Doncic draft and playing our starters the first quarter of the last game (which he had complete control over not doing) when every other team wasn't doing that, versus our scrubs beating other people's scrubs and people nitpicking what scrubs we should've played or not signed.

These arguments make zero sense. Yes, those players played well during those games, that is not lost on me. But nobody sees us signing Mo **** Wagner and Ignas **** Brazdeikis and thinks "Oh no, our tank is in trouble!"

well guess what we may not have thought that but.....the tank is in trouble....the tank was half-assed from the start so it's hollow to even argue any further but thing is we were fine in terms of the tank then they went and did something unnecessary...i wouldn't even be like this if we could skin the cat in a different way but it's draft only for us....i'm sorry about whining about trying to secure better odds to try and land a star potential player....cause scottie barnes ain't it chief....jalen johnson ain't it....end of the day it's just another year the magic didn't tank well enough, will it bite us? we'll see

I just don't know what you're expecting though.. the 2nd worst record? Top 3 all have the same odds for the best pick. We're still in play for that.

For the best pick yes, but if lower seeded teams jump ahead, the worst record will get the higher pick by default.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Can’t be upset when we’ve brought in how many street guys on 10 day contracts? Look only thing Orlando could’ve done was to sit WCJ Hampton & Okeke early. That wasn’t going to happen because they need to play games and get solid minutes.

Why OKC has done is laughable and I honestly think they need to get fined big time. They’ve won maybe 2 games in 28-30 played. SGA last game was March 22 which they won then he got shut down lol

[basketballRob]

Can’t be upset when we’ve brought in how many street guys on 10 day contracts? Look only thing Orlando could’ve done was to sit WCJ Hampton & Okeke early. That wasn’t going to happen because they need to play games and get solid minutes.

Why OKC has done is laughable and I honestly think they need to get fined big time. They’ve won maybe 2 games in 28-30 played. SGA last game was March 22 which they won then he got shut down lol

They probably think they'll get Oklahoma State's Cade Cunningham, in the same way Cleveland ended up with Lebron. Kind of sounds like Cade would rather be in Orlando tho.

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[MagicTownBaller]

Cleveland won yesterday, I think we are solidly 4 now.

[Skybox]

Can’t be upset when we’ve brought in how many street guys on 10 day contracts? Look only thing Orlando could’ve done was to sit WCJ Hampton & Okeke early. That wasn’t going to happen because they need to play games and get solid minutes.

Why OKC has done is laughable and I honestly think they need to get fined big time. They’ve won maybe 2 games in 28-30 played. SGA last game was March 22 which they won then he got shut down lol

I don't know if they'll get fined but I've got to think Silver considers addressing this level of BS in the offseason. It's just not a good look for the league. This year is a bit of a wash anyway due to lack of attendance and overall interest, but I expect Silver to take a look once he steers the ship to survive this crazy year without an awful outbreak.

[yoyojw17]

well guess what we may not have thought that but.....the tank is in trouble....the tank was half-assed from the start so it's hollow to even argue any further but thing is we were fine in terms of the tank then they went and did something unnecessary...i wouldn't even be like this if we could skin the cat in a different way but it's draft only for us....i'm sorry about whining about trying to secure better odds to try and land a star potential player....cause scottie barnes ain't it chief....jalen johnson ain't it....end of the day it's just another year the magic didn't tank well enough, will it bite us? we'll see

How much more tanking can we do?

We are currently playing a group of players .... All of which prior to the trade dead line were 2nd ... Or 3rd stringers.... Or even yet.... Weren't even on a team. Ross... out for the season.... mcw... haven't heard his name to the point that I wonder if he's still on our team. Chuma out for the rest of the season. Not much you can to get worse. But the coaches and players that are still here are playing for their jobs and futures. Some of these players are trying to show they deserve minutes next year... Which could lead to trades in the off season of the more expensive players.... players are also auditioning for other teams if they aren't retained. Coaches are trying to figure out what they have going into the summer.

Do you think RJ is thinking... "Man... Lemme play worse so that the magic can get green.... And then I'm even deeper on the bench"... Nope it's... "Lemme show what I can do so that I can put my flag in the ground"

And if that leads to random wins .. so be it.

But yes... I would rather lose all games... In respectful manners. Lol

if you want me to be honest i could care less what the players are thinking....i'm a fan, i just want the team to be relevant again....i'm happy RJ and these young guys are on the team but real talk theres only so much i'm going to feel for these millionaires....i'm thinking about the long game and if we can shorten our rebuild and get back on track to relevancy.....the fastest way to do that is to get star talent.

ok.... so you're saying that if you were in a position to get a job that you wanted.... and all of a sudden there is a possibility that someone is gonna try and come in and take the position that you feel qualified for... you're gonna roll over and just roll out the red carpet? I don't think you would. You would cease every opportunity and do your best. And some players are just natural competitors. so... can't change that.

[sChOlaRlY_Magi]

Can’t be upset when we’ve brought in how many street guys on 10 day contracts? Look only thing Orlando could’ve done was to sit WCJ Hampton & Okeke early. That wasn’t going to happen because they need to play games and get solid minutes.

Why OKC has done is laughable and I honestly think they need to get fined big time. They’ve won maybe 2 games in 28-30 played. SGA last game was March 22 which they won then he got shut down lol

They probably think they'll get Oklahoma State's Cade Cunningham, in the same way Cleveland ended up with Lebron. Kind of sounds like Cade would rather be in Orlando tho.

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Can you expound on this please? Last player I heard wanted to play here was Trae...

[thelead]

Can’t be upset when we’ve brought in how many street guys on 10 day contracts? Look only thing Orlando could’ve done was to sit WCJ Hampton & Okeke early. That wasn’t going to happen because they need to play games and get solid minutes.

Why OKC has done is laughable and I honestly think they need to get fined big time. They’ve won maybe 2 games in 28-30 played. SGA last game was March 22 which they won then he got shut down lol

They probably think they'll get Oklahoma State's Cade Cunningham, in the same way Cleveland ended up with Lebron. Kind of sounds like Cade would rather be in Orlando tho.

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Can you expound on this please? Last player I heard wanted to play here was Trae...

He was on social media recently talking about Orlando being 'his city' or something like that. He played at Montverde.