Official Speculation Thread (Pt XVI, Mods Close)

NW · Post #1341 » by NW » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:31 am

rcklsscognition wrote:I wonder what makes the trade "complicated"

What the Bucks get

rcklsscognition · Post #1342 » by **rcklsscognition** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:31 am

DJRajX wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:I wonder what makes the trade "complicated"

Wait, I must've missed that... is that from the Berger article?

Yeah. It says "part of a complicated, three-team proposal that would send Monta Ellis to Orlando" . Also says he's confirmed with "multiple" league sources. So this isnt just Alex Kennedy.

Post #1343 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:32 am

NW wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:I wonder what makes the trade "complicated"

What the Bucks get

Pretty much.

GameOver25 · Post #1344 » by **GameOver25** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:32 am

Feels sort of like the lockout period around here. But this time around there's an actual deadline that can't be extended.

ADRajX · Post #1345 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:32 am

rcklsscognition wrote:Can we beat the deal from Houston of Dalembert, C Lee, and picks?

We'd have 20 mil of salaries incoming with Ellis/SJax. Turk is almost certainly going to be moved. Will the bucks take Turk if we give them a 1st rounder and Orton? Perhaps Kwame's expiring?

Dalemert and CLee can definitely be out done with by offering some of our guys ... so it comes down to besting Houston's draft pick http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/ ... s/detailed

ClayDavis · Post #1346 » by **ClayDavis** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:32 am

rcklsscognition wrote:Can we beat the deal from Houston of Dalembert, C Lee, and picks?

We'd have 20 mil of salaries incoming with Ellis/SJax. Turk is almost certainly going to be moved. Will the bucks take Turk if we give them a 1st rounder and Orton? Perhaps Kwame's expiring?

That NY pick is becoming better every passing day.

BadMofoPimp · Post #1347 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:32 am

MagicFan41 wrote:Trade machine won't register it, but it works:

ORL in: Monta, SJax, Wright
ORL out: JJ, Ryno, Hedo, JRich

MIL in: Mcgee, Hedo, JJ
MIL out: Bogut, SJax

GSW in: Bogut, JRich
GSW out: Monta, Wright

WAS in: Ryno
WAS out: Mcgee

Not bad. Don't know if Milwaukee does it. GS, maybe. Dwight has to commit before I would trade our assets.

BadMofoPimp · Post #1348 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:33 am

I wonder why D. Jordan doesn't think about hiring Hakeem during the offseason?

ADRajX · Post #1349 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:33 am

rcklsscognition wrote:
DJRajX wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:I wonder what makes the trade "complicated"

Wait, I must've missed that... is that from the Berger article?

Yeah. It says "part of a complicated, three-team proposal that would send Monta Ellis to Orlando" . Also says he's confirmed with "multiple" league sources. So this isnt just Alex Kennedy.

fml... thanks

quick someone get on trade machine and figure it out.

rcklsscognition · Post #1350 » by **rcklsscognition** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:34 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
NW wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:I wonder what makes the trade "complicated"

What the Bucks get

Pretty much.

We know what's on the table. Dalembert, C Lee, and picks. That's not a fantastic unbeatable package IMO.

ADRajX · Post #1351 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:34 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:I wonder why D. Jordan doesn't think about hiring Hakeem during the offseason?

He'd be on a waiting list... seems like everyone wants to learn from the Dream. :lol:

ADRajX · Post #1352 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:35 am

MagicFan41 wrote:Trade machine won't register it, but it works:

ORL in: Monta, SJax, Wright
ORL out: JJ, Ryno, Hedo, JRich

MIL in: Mcgee, Hedo, JJ
MIL out: Bogut, SJax

GSW in: Bogut, JRich
GSW out: Monta, Wright

WAS in: Ryno
WAS out: Mcgee

I like that

ADRajX · Post #1353 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:36 am

InFlames wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:From Berger:

The Rockets and Warriors are discussing ways to acquire center Andrew Bogut from Milwaukee, with the Golden State scenario part of a complicated, three-team proposal that would send Monta Ellis to Orlando, multiple league sources told CBSSports.com.

The Warriors would get Bogut from the Bucks and send Ellis to Orlando as part of the Magic's efforts to persuade Dwight Howard that they are prepared to continue surrounding him with top-flight talent. The Magic are exploring multiple scenarios to upgrade their roster in the hopes that Howard would then relent on his strategy to opt out of his contract and become an unrestricted free agent on July 1.

Here we go.

I keep reading the article over and over again... I won't be able to sleep again tonight.

BadMofoPimp · Post #1354 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:37 am

DJRajX wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:I wonder why D. Jordan doesn't think about hiring Hakeem during the offseason?

He'd be on a waiting list... seems like everyone wants to learn from the Dream.

Back in the 90's, those Georgetown boys used to battle each other during the offseason practicing against each other. Wasn't it Zo, Hakeem and Ewing? Wish there was some tape of that.

thelead · Post #1355 » by **thelead** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:37 am

going to bed... see ya'll in part 17!

BadMofoPimp · Post #1356 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:37 am

thelead wrote:going to bed... see ya'll in part 17!

Tryin to stay awake myself, but I may just call it a night also.

rcklsscognition · Post #1357 » by **rcklsscognition** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:38 am

DJRajX wrote:quick someone get on trade machine and figure it out.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7abmhvg + picks :wink:

NickAnderson · Post #1358 » by **NickAnderson** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:38 am

meh who needs sleep

The Real Dalic · Post #1359 » by **The Real Dalic** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:38 am

Hey NW (if you're still around), this is a serious question. would you guys be okay with letting Ellis go if we help you guys get Bogut somehow?

Post #1360 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:39 am

rcklsscognition wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:
NW wrote:What the Bucks get

Pretty much.

We know what's on the table. Dalembert, C Lee, and picks. That's not a fantastic unbeatable package IMO.

You would think so, but MIL gets back a starting center, decent 2 guard, and draft picks, which give them the edge imo. If they're going into rebuild, draft picks are coveted. I assume they have better picks than us. I'm not sure they'd be interested in Ryan, since they have Ilyasova. We may have a better package of players, but it's up to what MIL wants and what direction they want to go in. GS and ORL would almost have to work together in order for GS to get Bogut and us to get Monta.