Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIV "Lottery/Draft"Edition)

[Viper1500]

What I should have said is a third option on a good team, not on the Orlando Magic. And yes he is unwanted as well, just don't think the fan base is fair on him. He's putting up the #'s we pretty much all expected, some I guess had false hope in him being some form of an all-star.

[orlando1214]

Not sure if posted before, but considering the news today about Mclemore, I thought these were great.

Enjoy.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pVE2QySPKA[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVcwLUs5oFM[[/youtube]

Those are great, I watched the rising up video yesterday. I know there are some that would disagree with me but I think he's the perfect fit for the Magic. He seems like a good kid with a passion for basketball, and I think his all around game makes him the best player in the draft. Certainly he has things to work on, as do all players in this draft, but he can come into a situation where he can have the chance to grow with the other young guys on this team. If the news is indeed true about him being number one on the Magic's board then I think it's great news and I hope his workout affirms that belief that the Magic are said to have in him.

Also, they talk about Thomas Robinson in that rising up video, so it sounds like McLemore and him know each other pretty well, so that might be another reason to try and bring him in.

[cedric76]

Mclemore/Thomas Robinson/ JV

Kansas connection

[rcklsscognition]

What I should have said is a third option on a good team, not on the Orlando Magic. And yes he is unwanted as well, just don't think the fan base is fair on him. He's putting up the #'s we pretty much all expected, some I guess had false hope in him being some form of an all-star.

He is like 8th in the league in scoring for SGs and pretty high in assists too. It's mostly a perception thing. But it doesn't take away the fact that we don't need him. It's like a breakup, it's not you, it's me type thing. If there is a team that does need him we should be open to moving him. Otherwise, we just have to live with having a fairly inexpensive scorer for a few years. The only thing that worries me about him being here is how he negatively effects the development of our young core. If he starts going overboard in ISO and taking all the shots like he did a lot last year, then it's a problem. Same goes for Glen.

[OrlChamps2030]

Mclemore/Thomas Robinson/ JV

Kansas connection

Can't forget Wiggins

[Nyce_1]

Mclemore/Thomas Robinson/ JV

Kansas connection

Can't forget Wiggins

[KillMonger]

Man after doing more research i'm pretty much sold on Oladipo, Burke is still the guy i want in my heart of hearts but i can definitely get on board with Oladipo. Love his passion for the game and his swagger, Seems like the type of guy whose style of play on the defensive end can be contagious. I'm interested to see what he can do in the NBA hopefully on our team but i became a fan of his so i'll keep an eye on him wherever he ends up.

From the rumors it seems like we're going in the direction of Mclemore or Oladipo which would mean that time is soon going to be up for Afflalo. I guess that would also mean that Tobias is going to be in the PF slot for the foreseeable future, From what i'm hearing they pretty much want Moe in the lineup. So next season assuming Afflalo and Baby are traded somehow......

Nelson/E'Twaun
Oladipo/Harkless/Lamb
Harkless/Tobias/Jones
Tobias/Nicholson
Vucevic/O'Quinn

Obviously a lot can change and people could be coming and going but i'll be interested to see how that lineup plays together. From the SG to the PF starters you got quite a bit of athleticism hell could be like another lob city but the problem i think with that is Nelson doesn't like to push the rock. That's why i would love if Rob were able to pull MCW as well to me that would be PERFECT. Love this time of year, the possibilites are almost endless

[OrlChamps2030]

Nelson/E'Twaun
Oladipo/Harkless/Lamb
Harkless/Tobias/Jones
Tobias/Nicholson
Vucevic/O'Quinn

Obviously a lot can change and people could be coming and going but i'll be interested to see how that lineup plays together. From the SG to the PF starters you got quite a bit of athleticism hell could be like another lob city but the problem i think with that is Nelson doesn't like to push the rock. That's why i would love if Rob were able to pull MCW as well to me that would be PERFECT. Love this time of year, the possibilites are almost endless

Oladipo/Harkless is a pretty bad shooting duo. Add MCW to the mix and yuck.. I think i'm starting feel my eyes bleed already. I think McCollum (if hes available) or Schroeder would be a better fit on a team with Oladipo/Harkless.

Just curious though, what does Oladipo do that Harkless cannot? I feel like the duo is a bit redundant and IMO Harkless is a better prospect.

[Bensational]

I don't know if I'd even call AA a 3rd option. I'd prefer my 3rd option to be a 20ppg threat on any given night, so that if option 1 or 2 aren't in form then we can hope he pulls us out of the trenches. AA isn't that guy. He's a 4th or 5th option who's best utilized with others creating opportunities for him, and where he can continue to knock down high efficiency shots. When I say 4th or 5th option, I don't mean that he's not good, just that his skillset isn't something I would prioritize in an offense. His ability to pass the ball is solid too. He's a great team player and would fit a team like the Spurs, Nuggets, Pacers or Bulls perfectly.

[cedric76]

Draft Mclemore with #2
trade for Thomas Robinson (To me it s almost sure that D12 is going to Hou, so they ll have to move him)
With D12 off the market, Dallas might not move #13 pick

So i d go for mini trade: AA for Ridnour+#9

I d use #9 to go after a PG, trey should be gone, so i d go for MCW (could trade down to get him and get few assets on the way)

2013/2014 roster

PG: Nelson, MCW, Ridnour (expiring)
MCW will be able to learn from 2 very good vets
SG:Moe, Mclemore, moore, lamb
SF:Harris,Moe,AL
PF:BBD,Thomas,AN,Harris
C:Vuc,BBD,KOQ

Hedo Cut


That s 14 players, maybe 15 with DQJ

Ridnour and AL will be good trading asset by next Feb

[KillMonger]

Nelson/E'Twaun
Oladipo/Harkless/Lamb
Harkless/Tobias/Jones
Tobias/Nicholson
Vucevic/O'Quinn

Obviously a lot can change and people could be coming and going but i'll be interested to see how that lineup plays together. From the SG to the PF starters you got quite a bit of athleticism hell could be like another lob city but the problem i think with that is Nelson doesn't like to push the rock. That's why i would love if Rob were able to pull MCW as well to me that would be PERFECT. Love this time of year, the possibilites are almost endless

Oladipo/Harkless is a pretty bad shooting duo. Add MCW to the mix and yuck.. I think i'm starting feel my eyes bleed already. I think McCollum (if hes available) or Schroeder would be a better fit on a team with Oladipo/Harkless.

Just curious though, what does Oladipo do that Harkless cannot? I feel like the duo is a bit redundant and IMO Harkless is a better prospect.

Well yeah they are a bad shooting duo NOW but you can't possibly know what the future holds, defensively though it could be something special since i believe both Oladipo and Harkless are ahead of the curve in that respect and MCW at the PG position could be something too with his size and length. It's all about Potential man, we're not ready to contend now but we probably will in a few years and the shooting questions would more less be answered by the time we are ready to contend. The defense will already be there and i think the offense will to if you give them 3 or so seasons too work on it

[OrlChamps2030]

It's all about Potential man, we're not ready to contend now but we probably will in a few years and the shooting questions would more less be answered by the time we are ready to contend. The defense will already be there and i think the offense will to if you give them 3 or so seasons too work on it

The shooting questions definitely will be answered by the time we are ready to contend..

[rcklsscognition]

I am fine with people wanting to draft Oladipo at the 2, but we'd be doing it based off of something other than defense, you don't draft a guard in the lottery because of their defense.

[KillMonger]

It's all about Potential man, we're not ready to contend now but we probably will in a few years and the shooting questions would more less be answered by the time we are ready to contend. The defense will already be there and i think the offense will to if you give them 3 or so seasons too work on it

The shooting questions definitely will be answered by the time we are ready to contend..

I see you Mclemore

[rcklsscognition]

No love for Noel?



Dang, his hand looks like it's been enlarged or something, it's huge!

[KillMonger]

one thing i have to say about Noel man, dude needs to learn how to land. He constantly lands on his azz or his back, just playing around outside in some sweats and he still can't land correctly on two feet. As humorous as it may sound it's actually a bit of a concern for me

[magicman123]

we are a rebuilding team, so im not on board with drafting a player at #2 that looks like a solid role player/defender on the wing...go for the upside at whatever position, not the safe looking pick, IMO

[Truth24]

A little off topic but I would really like to sign Darius Morris this off season, I loved him at Michigan and he hasn't been able to get it going in the league yet. I believe a change of scenery would be really good plus he has gotten a lot better shooting wise.

[MagicFan32]

i would be shocked if we took burke 2nd, i like him but athletically he is not what you look for that high. if we could pick up another pick and take him later i'd be all over that. i am convinced we are coming out of this draft with a SG and a PG.

Mclemore/Oladipo
MCW/Burke/Schroeder
trade for Robinson

if nothing else we come out of this draft with more attractive assets/a talent base and we know Morey respects Hennigan so they should be talking

[LC_Magic]

I want Mclemore based JUST off that dance now LMAO