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Ahmadab wrote:http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/31307/grantland-exclusive-the-text-messages-of-dwight-howard-and-mikhail-prokhorov
VGOSWAMI wrote:BelgianMagic wrote:Next season will show us who's a real Magic fan and who's only a Magic fan when they're winning ..
Teams need their fans the most when they're struggling. Bandwagon fans need to go to the Heat or Nets board and stay there, don't bother coming back when we're winning again.
There will be some rough years ahead, but we're just gonna keep getting better and better till we find the right players to do what Dwight&Shaq never could, bring a championship to the City of Orlando.
+1
I also think that those saying they'll stop being fans are just frustrated in the moment, as they should be. But tough times will make the good ones sweeter.
JBreezeNY wrote:VirginiaKnickFan wrote:I seriously hope you guys end up getting the best deal for Howard, and he doesn't end up in Brooklyn. I hate Deron, btw:
Marc Berman
Deron Williams was open today discussing Dwight's urge to join the Brooklyn project. More than he has ever been. "I think he likes the market,'' Williams said today before practicing with the U.S. Olympic Team at UNLV. "It's a lot different from Orlando. He definitely wants to play with me. We talked about playing together for years. That's a big part of it as well. The last Olympics, we talked about it. That was four years ago.''
Looking more & more like there was several team up discussions in the last olympics, hell probably in 04 one as well.....
clevermelvin wrote:Ahmadab wrote:http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/31307/grantland-exclusive-the-text-messages-of-dwight-howard-and-mikhail-prokhorov
Mikhail Prokhorov@Fake_Prokhorov
Who is steal phone? They will be eliminate. RT @Grantland33 The text messages of Dwight Howard and Mikhail Prokhorov http://es.pn/N52G92
RickB-Orlando wrote:I don't get why folks are so pissed at management. If there's anyone to blame for this situation, it's Dwight.
Loyalty. Love for the city and fans. Only trade me to the Nets, Lakers, or Mavs. Scratch that, the only place I'll resign is Brooklyn.
He's a prima donna, and the blame is on him. He played every single one of us.
AhaAha wrote:So we are givin up D12 for Brook Lopez and our assets coudnt even net us Monta...
no team wanted to help us out last trade deadline...we wanted to give up MIP Ryno and JJ + our pick + take back bad contracts...but somehow it is possible to turn Book Lopez into Dwight Howard ...fcuk this league seriously...
~Snoopy~ wrote:fuu you got no right to judge ppl who were with this team science 89
SolidSnake008 wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:mhectorgato wrote:
Reportedly they (DWill & D12) spoke about this 4 years ago ... about the time the Magic were in the ECFs/Finals.
The Dwight fiasco would not have been a fiasco were it not for that team up plan, thus the Nets only resigning.
If he was just upset about being here, it would have been "I'll sign with a contender" not I'll ONLY sign in Brooklyn".
Sure, they talked about it. But I wouldn't say that was the end all be all. I still believe that had the Magic created a perennial contender in ORL, like the Nets are doing now, D12 would have extended. Magic never gave it to him though.
NEM wrote: However, I'm a fan of my team winning so, keep the winning coming. All the "tank" fans can take their crap to another board. We are here to win.
VGOSWAMI wrote:RickB-Orlando wrote:I don't get why folks are so pissed at management. If there's anyone to blame for this situation, it's Dwight.
Loyalty. Love for the city and fans. Only trade me to the Nets, Lakers, or Mavs. Scratch that, the only place I'll resign is Brooklyn.
He's a prima donna, and the blame is on him. He played every single one of us.
What Otis did is in the past.
However, if Rob takes this deal, there's a reason to be upset. I still believe letting D12 walk and attaining cap space is better than locking Lopez up in a max deal for the next 4 years. Between Jameer/BBD/Lopez, you're looking at straight mediocrity for 3-5 years. If you're going to suck, suck hard and get lottery picks to rebuild. The Nets deal provides no future for us and provides little to be enthused about. The Magic do not have to take it.
VGOSWAMI wrote:RickB-Orlando wrote:I don't get why folks are so pissed at management. If there's anyone to blame for this situation, it's Dwight.
Loyalty. Love for the city and fans. Only trade me to the Nets, Lakers, or Mavs. Scratch that, the only place I'll resign is Brooklyn.
He's a prima donna, and the blame is on him. He played every single one of us.
What Otis did is in the past.
However, if Rob takes this deal, there's a reason to be upset. I still believe letting D12 walk and attaining cap space is better than locking Lopez up in a max deal for the next 4 years. Between Jameer/BBD/Lopez, you're looking at straight mediocrity for 3-5 years. If you're going to suck, suck hard and get lottery picks to rebuild. The Nets deal provides no future for us and provides little to be enthused about. The Magic do not have to take it.
MagicFan41 wrote:VGOSWAMI wrote:RickB-Orlando wrote:I don't get why folks are so pissed at management. If there's anyone to blame for this situation, it's Dwight.
Loyalty. Love for the city and fans. Only trade me to the Nets, Lakers, or Mavs. Scratch that, the only place I'll resign is Brooklyn.
He's a prima donna, and the blame is on him. He played every single one of us.
What Otis did is in the past.
However, if Rob takes this deal, there's a reason to be upset. I still believe letting D12 walk and attaining cap space is better than locking Lopez up in a max deal for the next 4 years. Between Jameer/BBD/Lopez, you're looking at straight mediocrity for 3-5 years. If you're going to suck, suck hard and get lottery picks to rebuild. The Nets deal provides no future for us and provides little to be enthused about. The Magic do not have to take it.
Yes but it isn't simply "jameer BBD Lopez" for 3-5 years. We would have draft picks, developing rookies, as well as a good amount of cap space available to go after big free agents. I think people are losing a bit of sight on this. Not saying I like this trade necessarily, I think the Houston one is a much much better one....but I do think people aren't looking far enough into the future (and it isn't really all that far)
Joe Treutlein @Hoopdata
If trading best big in NBA 7 months before trade deadline and can't match compensation yielded for Carmelo or Deron, hold out for more.
MagicFan41 wrote:VGOSWAMI wrote:RickB-Orlando wrote:I don't get why folks are so pissed at management. If there's anyone to blame for this situation, it's Dwight.
Loyalty. Love for the city and fans. Only trade me to the Nets, Lakers, or Mavs. Scratch that, the only place I'll resign is Brooklyn.
He's a prima donna, and the blame is on him. He played every single one of us.
What Otis did is in the past.
However, if Rob takes this deal, there's a reason to be upset. I still believe letting D12 walk and attaining cap space is better than locking Lopez up in a max deal for the next 4 years. Between Jameer/BBD/Lopez, you're looking at straight mediocrity for 3-5 years. If you're going to suck, suck hard and get lottery picks to rebuild. The Nets deal provides no future for us and provides little to be enthused about. The Magic do not have to take it.
Yes but it isn't simply "jameer BBD Lopez" for 3-5 years. We would have draft picks, developing rookies, as well as a good amount of cap space available to go after big free agents. I think people are losing a bit of sight on this. Not saying I like this trade necessarily, I think the Houston one is a much much better one....but I do think people aren't looking far enough into the future (and it isn't really all that far)
